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Market Wizard
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Personally, I think cloud based/web based is where it's at. I can see TradingView becoming a fully fledged trading platform very easily, and am surprised more platforms haven't moved to that already. The advantages can be huge.


mattz View Post
100%, no let me rephrase, 200% true!
I feel the exact same way, a trader should be able to open his/her workspace anywhere.
Access his trade from anywhere, and change order from anywhere.
Those who would develop a web based application that is simple will gain many customers.
Juts to add to your sentiment, it should be web based and simple to execute.
No fancy indicators that are meaningless anyway...true traders want execution. period.

Trading Technologies new product (they have discontinued upgrades to XTrader) is web-based allowing you to do exactly what the two of you are saying. Problem for me is that several key functions are still "coming soon"(TM).

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Trading Technologies new product (they have discontinued upgrades to XTrader) is web-based allowing you to do exactly what the two of you are saying. Problem for me is that several key functions are still "coming soon"(TM).

Yes, I did a webinar with them early last year on Nextrader if you recall

I definitely think they made the right design choice.

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Trading Technologies new product (they have discontinued upgrades to XTrader) is web-based allowing you to do exactly what the two of you are saying. Problem for me is that several key functions are still "coming soon"(TM).

Did you look into CQG Mobile? If you use CQG feed via your downloadable platform, you also have the ability to view it via the mobile and browser version.

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on it's own it looks like it's steady to up
https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=multicharts&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT%2B4

Multicharts releases features that many traders looks for, in essence, not just features that would make it look "cool".
Practical stuff.

I think that those who actually trade would find it very organized, stable and intuitive.

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i'm certainly not knocking MC... someone here suggested it and I like it. But for whatever reason it doesn't seem to be gaining in popularity ..at least based on the google data.

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i'm certainly not knocking MC... someone here suggested it and I like it. But for whatever reason it doesn't seem to be gaining in popularity ..at least based on the google data.

I did not think of you knocking MC at all. However, "popularity" is not always an indication of actual trading because you have to remember that there is a group of people who is very fascinated with trading, but they do not trade.
They have a brokerage account, they have a platform, but again they do not trade.

Also, different software companies apply different tactics of marketing to push platforms, so the amount of exposure one gets may seem dominating in a certain asset class when they are not.

As I pointed out in an earlier in a previous post, TT dominates along with CQG in the FCM world in terms of contracts traded, yet according to Google it's trending down. I would not take this "trend" too seriously because it's a search algorithm.

When it comes to platforms just test and compare. Popularity is the last thing you want to go by, and if I told you where ours biggest customers trade your chin my drop....some use the most basic plain vanilla. They are concerned with stability and execution. They do not get concerned with popularity.

Lastly, I happen to like MC a lot and particularly their DOM. I think the features they add are ones that a traders use, and it's incremental and gradual growth.
Consider that MC does not spend any $ on fancy ads, banners, and all their resources are targeted to make a better product IMHO.
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The platforms we have today amaze me. In the early 90's we entered orders at Merrill Lynch in dos and pulled quotes the same way. Looking at charts from daily fax services was my favorite thing to do. My brother in law had a satellite in his back yard to get quotes directly from the exchanges which was a significant advantage to the 56k modem at the time. His dot matrix charts were so cool with all his Elliot Wave stuff penciled on top. First Union Securities blew me away when they were recruiting me in 99 with the ILX Workstation complete with charts, client accounts and order entry in one package but most guys in the office still wrote paper tickets and let the wire operator send the orders for the next several years. We were also told during this time we had to check our email inbox weekly because we were going to begin getting information that way vs printouts from the "cage".

I spent several years on tradestatin programming indicators and strategies and have been quite happy with them and thought they were the best untill the past year or so when I have pretty much abandoned all the work I did for simplicity in discretionary trading. My main beef is they won't bring any modern volume analytics and the platform will get stuck every so often and require a shutdown and me trading from a mobile device for 10 minutes. I've demo'd some other platforms but I believe I'm too lazy to learn a whole new platform so I just stay where I am albeit a little unhappy but thankful that we've come so far from where it all began.

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I too remember the DOS days. Over the years I've used platforms from SuperCharts, TradeStation, Amibroker, Esignal, Ensign, OpenECry, Interactive Brokers, FuturePath (Photon), and wrote my own platform with trade-from-the-charts, DOM, strategies, auto-trading etc. A couple of years ago I switched to NinjaTrader because I'm a C# developer. NT has a wealth of capabilities and a huge user base from which I can continue to learn. Although some say indicators are a waste of time, I'm a profitable trader who wouldn't trade without my favorite proprietary indicators. Maybe they are just my training wheels or my security blanket, but they are important to me.

All of that to say this: My excitement about NT8 is their new openness to developers. Much of the neat stuff here on the Elite forum was unsupported, and with NT8 that code and future extensions to core NT8 will be supported by NinjaTrader. The new AddOn capability by itself will be huge. I also get frustrated, and it has been a long wait. But now with a supported, .Net 4.5 platform with a reasonably modern architecture, good developers will find themselves unleashed. It's not open source, but IMHO it's the next best thing.

And the non-developers are the huge beneficiaries of the current and future expansion of capabilities that results.

Yes, there are hundreds of NT Ecosystem partners, and some of them will sell snake oil. I don't see a practical way for NT to provide an open platform and also police everyone beyond the basics. There will always be a sucker born every minute who wants to quit his day job, put $1,000 into a futures account, and get rich quick. A fool and his money are soon parted. Some of us want to warn the fool rather than take his money, but all we can do is warn.

But let's not focus on the fools. Some of us are in the <10% who survive, and some newbies will also survive. We will benefit greatly from the creativity unleashed (past, present and future) by tens of thousands of developers and traders working on multiple platforms in the free market.

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Mattz what do your biggest customers use?

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Mattz what do your biggest customers use?

We maintain a strict privacy policy as far as our customer information.
However all platforms used are within public reach and domain.
Choose those platforms that meet your needs, your technical skills and provide stability.
Consider what you need to execute a trade, and you will see how fast you eliminate choices and focus
on ones you need. This will also save you money in terms of platform cost, because some are just out right
expensive.

I hope this helps.

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