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OK, so you're referring to functionality in general, instead of the functionality of RTX.

With respect to forcing the open to be equal to the close, I'm not sure I see the advantage. If the 1st trade within a 5-min period is above the last trade within the previous 5-min period, it would make sense to reflect that and not make up an open price that match the previous close, or a prev close price that matched the open. At times the true open may be completely outside of the range of the previous bar (and this would obviously be more exaggerated on the first bar of the session). Seem like you would just prefer removing the opening mark on bars and just show the closing mark (I'm more of a candlestick guy myself).

Anyway, seems like we are getting a little off topic here as I thought you were referring to the advantages of the sierra developer platform vs that of IRT (RTX), but I'm certainly open to hearing about any functionality you'd like to see in IRT.

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That is not functionality that is an INDICATOR that was programmed in ASCIL (Sierra charts C++). This can also be done in ninjatrader in C# also as an indicator.

I guess everything going forward that cannot be done gets filed in your "functionality" basket. Its not personal, you are behind your competitors.

Worth mentioning Trade Navigator have that feature (removing gap) as a functionality button, since their coding language is like the idiot proof Trade Station easy language.


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Its not personal, you are behind your competitors.

Not sure how long your experience is in sierra charts...
However if I understand your thread here right - you are testing out a demo of another software since 7 days...
and you conclude that there are (big) differences.
I used RT very much longer (years) to even understand what RT/Investor is capable of.
Just look at the vast number of videos on their website - they take already weeks to watch and eventually reproduce
input for your own instruments.
So my 2 cents are: instead of arguing in early stage - dig deeper into the stuff provided already.

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Not sure how long your experience is in sierra charts...
However if I understand your thread here right - you are testing out a demo of another software since 7 days...
and you conclude that there are (big) differences.
I used RT very much longer (years) to even understand what RT/Investor is capable of.
Just look at the vast number of videos on their website - they take already weeks to watch and eventually reproduce
input for your own instruments.
So my 2 cents are: instead of arguing in early stage - dig deeper into the stuff provided already.

GFIs1

No need to get excited. I am trying to find out the power of RTX. Please feel free to post indicators that you have created in C++ with RTX. Please stick to the topic of RTX.

I am not questioning the platform as I said earlier the market profile indicators get 10/10 and are the best out there.

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I've got an RTX Project I'm working on called Volume Candles that will be available soon in 12.4 beta. It's an RTX Indicator that essentially combines the drawing of a candle, volume at text, and a volume profile, for whatever periodicity your chart is set to.

Here is a screenshot.



All 3 components are optional (can do candles with profile. Text with profile, etc).

But I'm showing you that to inform you that RTX is more than capable of being programmed to plot the type of bars you described. I think we just may be talking about 2 different things. If you're saying that our library of available RTX indicators is not as vast as other programs who have provided similar extension functionality for much longer than we have...then sure, that's a fact. But as far as what you can do with respect to developing indicators in RTX, I think you'll find that there are not many limitations. And if you do find limitations (as I have over past 6 months), we'll do the work necessary to remove those limitations (as we've done over past 6 months).


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Thank you, that is constructive and on topic.

GFIs1 will be the first to upload his C++ RTX code to the download section with all those years of experience.

https://futures.io/download/

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The good news is, I believe we intend to release the source code (.cpp) for Volume Candles, which we haven't done for others like TINT and PVP. That alone will give users/developers a great deal of insight into how to build such indicators. It will also provide the ability to take that source and modify/tweak to your liking and make it your own.

Let me expand on something I said in last post...while our library of RTX indicators is still relatively small (but quickly growing), our built-in indicator library is extremely robust and mature. I'm differentiating a built-in indicators as one included with the software, built by Linn Software, and built without the RTX library. Versus RTX indicators which are built using RTX library and tools. Now given, most RTX indicators to date have also been developed by Linn Software, but we're hopeful that will not always be the case. There is certainly a great deal of opportunity for a talented 3rd party developer to take advantage of.

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The good news is, I believe we intend to release the source code (.cpp) for Volume Candles, which we haven't done for others like TINT and PVP. That alone will give users/developers a great deal of insight into how to build such indicators. It will also provide the ability to take that source and modify/tweak to your liking and make it your own.

Let me expand on something I said in last post...while our library of RTX indicators is still relatively small (but quickly growing), our built-in indicator library is extremely robust and mature. I'm differentiating a built-in indicators as one included with the software, built by Linn Software, and built without the RTX library. Versus RTX indicators which are built using RTX library and tools. Now given, most RTX indicators to date have also been developed by Linn Software, but we're hopeful that will not always be the case. There is certainly a great deal of opportunity for a talented 3rd party developer to take advantage of.

That was the whole purpose of this discussion, to find out the power of RTX that has not been developed by Linn Software and what tools are available for C++ developers.

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The good news is, I believe we intend to release the source code (.cpp) for Volume Candles, which we haven't done for others like TINT and PVP. That alone will give users/developers a great deal of insight into how to build such indicators. It will also provide the ability to take that source and modify/tweak to your liking and make it your own.

Let me expand on something I said in last post...while our library of RTX indicators is still relatively small (but quickly growing), our built-in indicator library is extremely robust and mature. I'm differentiating a built-in indicators as one included with the software, built by Linn Software, and built without the RTX library. Versus RTX indicators which are built using RTX library and tools. Now given, most RTX indicators to date have also been developed by Linn Software, but we're hopeful that will not always be the case. There is certainly a great deal of opportunity for a talented 3rd party developer to take advantage of.


My personal experience is indeed RTX is a powerful addition that has much potential to enhance my work. In recently testing of RTX I've been helped a lot my Chad and William to understand the edges of certain methods/classes that aren't always so obvious when looking at SDK's - especially as by their nature SDK's expose only the front end of methods/classes rather than the nitty gritty logic behind them.

I do feel that more documentation &/or broader examples for RTX are definitely a weak point (the intro video series not withstanding). I'm a developer and it it's slow going experimenting without that stuff no matter the software, and it really will help make it much more accessible and allow the user base to engage with it properly. Q. Did this or any .cpp beyond the moving average example in the intro videos ever get released to public?

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