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Using your "ready made online installer" link from post #2, the popup is all Russian.

And after accepting the conditions, that popup is gone, so I am unsure what is required to download to get started. This landing page needs some help with some very simple instructions.

Unclear to me right now what I need, Studio, Data, Server? All?

Downloading Studio for now since it's the first listing.

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Changelog during Studio installer is all Russian.

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Changelog during Studio installer is all Russian.

Mike

The installer isn't really an installer, but a patcher/downloader.

I think it would be far more useful if at the end of the initial download, you ran an actual installer. So the app was properly installed into the system, and not just running out of a directory.

I suppose maybe some people prefer a portable app, assuming it doesn't use the registry at all or store any data outside of the current folder. But I'm not one of those people

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Either way, after running Studio, I am stuck with this error message.

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After examining the License tab, it says my license is a "trial" and valid for 30 days. This is very confusing, I thought this was an open source app and thus free?

Please clarify the licensing.

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The welcome email is also in Russian only.

One part translates as follows: "StockSharp - free platform. But HFT strategies or strategy with direct access we offer a corporate license"

Can you clarify the licensing? Is the open-source and free platform able to execute orders through brokerage without any restrictions?

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Mike,

I'm just seeing your posts now. The installers are well behind the source. Github has significantly updated functionality compared to the installers. Of the S# team provided programs, hydra is the most actively maintained. Studio is still in beta but is getting updates more often. Hydra is primarily data oriented. Studio is more of a trading and testing app. The main focus with S# is the API, whereas the demon apps showcase some of the components that are possible. The sample applications show how components are made without getting overly complex.

I think you should clone the repo or download a zip of it.

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Studio still has some of the remnants of when S# required signing up and obtaining a license through the S# website. It is easily commented out so you can explore the app.

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Mike,

I'm just seeing your posts now. The installers are well behind the source. Github has significantly updated functionality compared to the installers. Of the S# team provided programs, hydra is the most actively maintained. Studio is still in beta but is getting updates more often. Hydra is primarily data oriented. Studio is more of a trading and testing app. The main focus with S# is the API, whereas the demon apps showcase some of the components that are possible. The sample applications show how components are made without getting overly complex.

I think you should clone the repo or download a zip of it.

I'm just going based on your own post #2 in this thread, and your website. Even on Github, there is no section for "Hydra". And in your documentation link, no mention of it.

At this point, I really have no clue what hydra is or what "primarily data oriented" really even means. It sounds like it's a replacement for S# Data?

I'm not as curious about data, I have data fully under control with my own app. I am more curious in evaluating the algorithmic capabilities and specifically portfolio style trading. Which app is the right one?

BTW, this just points out some weaknesses in the way your website/Github are designed, it is unclear where to start or what to use, and this would be a turn off for new users.

You say I should just download the zip or clone the repo. I did that, I downloaded "StockSharp_4.3.13.zip" but there is nothing compiled (no exe, no installer). It isn't even clear what is included, whether it's Studio, Data, Hydra, all of the above...

I assume I would need Visual Studio in order to compile it, but I don't have VS installed on this workstation and really didn't want to go through all that just to see what the capabilities are of the platform.

Why are the installers so out of date? For me, before I spend hours and hours on this, I want a quick at-a-glance look to see if its worth my time. That means installer, and at least enough instruction to pull up some historical daily bars with US equities, and plot some basic charts and create some basic signals. You could do that in NT for example within about 5 minutes.

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Need help?
1) Stop changing things. No new indicators, charts, or methods. Be consistent with what is in front of you first.
2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
5) Where to start as a trader? Watch this webinar and read this thread for hundreds of questions and answers.
6)
Help using the forum? Watch this video to learn general tips on using the site.

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Mike,

I really appreciate the fresh look and will take the constructive criticism onboard. I hadn't really thought about S# from a non developer point of view.

I have to admit that I'm behind on keeping this thread updated and need to do so soon since much has changed.

As far as the installers, I can't speak to that part as I have no dev access to the S# website. I will pass your observations along.

I see where there can be significant confusion and will try to rewrite post #2 to better explain the getting started process.

To answer some of your questions
- Yes S# repo assumes you have VS installed
- Hydra = S# Data
- Charting has just recently undergone a full overhaul and is not 100% out of the box yet but is expected to be soon.

Again, thanks for the fresh look. That's how projects like this get better.

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OK, so lets say you were going to build an installer for me, which app should I even be focusing on for my needs?

I envisioned a way to chart data, apply signals, and return a results spreadsheet or other analytical data. I wanted to then apply that towards portfolio's to see what capabilities already exist in the platform.

Take a look here at a Global Tactical Asset Allocation portfolio system as a good starting point, the aim would be to see how much can be automated in S#:

https://futures.io/elite-circle/21967-developing-gtaa-system.html

Mike

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Need help?
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2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
5) Where to start as a trader? Watch this webinar and read this thread for hundreds of questions and answers.
6)
Help using the forum? Watch this video to learn general tips on using the site.

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