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Sometimes i think its a combo of a) Are u logged on b) Restart the app or some combination

I tried all, without success. I'll contact CQG support

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I opened a small account and am using q trader in said account only because of the brackets. I have to say, I really love it so far. I also use X_Trader Pro which costs me $1500 per month with no built in brackets and CTS who's pricing is a bit all over but I get charged about $300 per month. I am happy so far with the $40 per month Q Trader! I'll let you all know if anything changes.

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I opened a small account and am using q trader in said account only because of the brackets. I have to say, I really love it so far. I also use X_Trader Pro which costs me $1500 per month with no built in brackets and CTS who's pricing is a bit all over but I get charged about $300 per month. I am happy so far with the $40 per month Q Trader! I'll let you all know if anything changes.

I think QTrader is really good value for money compared to other pricey platforms out there. Having said that I never tried either of those you mentioned.

Which platform is CTS? Is that Cunningham Trading Systems?

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I think QTrader is really good value for money compared to other pricey platforms out there. Having said that I never tried either of those you mentioned.

Which platform is CTS? Is that Cunningham Trading Systems?

It is Cunningham and offers brackets and options on futures.

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I opened a small account and am using q trader in said account only because of the brackets. I have to say, I really love it so far. I also use X_Trader Pro which costs me $1500 per month with no built in brackets and CTS who's pricing is a bit all over but I get charged about $300 per month. I am happy so far with the $40 per month Q Trader! I'll let you all know if anything changes.

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what are you using for charts?
Outrights and spread charts? i think u told me but i forget
im hoping to get my Sierra switched to CQG .. still with TT feed.. and then get spread charts.. maybe a holiday project
Spread charts are fine with Qtrader except cant have all that i need .. grids of spread charts or combination.. of 15m, tick etc on same view without switching tabs

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InvestorRT for outrights, I take a look at spread charts but I look at many things with spreads.

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This is basic but I have looked everywhere in Q Trader, does anybody here know how to change the background color on a chart? I have found everything else.

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This the place to go: Setup - Chart Colors


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Hello again,

I am curious as to what the button my arrow is pointing to does or is and most importantly how I can un select it. It seems to center but since I pressed it last week I can't undo it/cant make it go back (Does this matter?).

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this is compression button, documented here

https://help.cqg.com/qtrader/default.htm#!Documents/compressionbuttondomtrader.htm

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Hello again,

I am curious as to what the button my arrow is pointing to does or is and most importantly how I can un select it. It seems to center but since I pressed it last week I can't undo it/cant make it go back (Does this matter?).

Thank you guys.

thanks to shzhning who posted that link, but once again I must be critical of CQG's documentation which always makes you yearn for more .


It may be only me but by reading the link I actually don't understand what they're talking about.


My own interpretation:

I use the button if there is a spread between the inside bid and ask of several ticks and I don't want to see it.

Example: the product being traded has price increments of 1 (such as in 3000, 3001, 3002, etc.). The bid is at 3000 and the ask is at 3010. If the button is 'unpressed' I would see all the prices from 3001 to 3009 which are between bid and ask and are without any resting orders. By clicking on that button the spread disappears and I only see bid at 3000 and next price up I see is ask at 3010.

To undo that, you just right-click on the same button (sometimes it seems to me you need to right-click on it twice, not sure yet why).

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xplorer yes your interpretation is correct. I used this button in the past when I briefly traded copper. This is a volatile and fast market, sometimes with large bid/ask spread. I believe this is the reason why CQG came up with this button. For popular markets like ES and CL, there's really no use for it.

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xplorer yes your interpretation is correct. I used this button in the past when I briefly traded copper. This is a volatile and fast market, sometimes with large bid/ask spread. I believe this is the reason why CQG came up with this button. For popular markets like ES and CL, there's really no use for it.

Unless you know a better way, I also use it when I have multiple DOM windows open at the same time and if I want to center only one of them, then I use that button.

If I want to center all the DOM windows at once I just middle click on the DOM.

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I used a similar feature in X_Trader trading nymex energies where I would only see (using WTI as an example) every 10 ticks, as every tick was just all over, so it can be good.

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Unless you know a better way, I also use it when I have multiple DOM windows open at the same time and if I want to center only one of them, then I use that button.

If I want to center all the DOM windows at once I just middle click on the DOM.

yes there's another way. I would just press the Home button on the keyboard and the DOM is centered. It's not better or worse, just my "quick and easy" preference

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The spread compression tool is best used, imo, on options DOMs where there can be VERY wide spreads depending on the product, exceeding the height of the dom in some case (silver options, I'm looking at you). It's just a handy way to keep both the bid/ask in view but hard to trade options with since you will usually get a fill at the mid price plus/minus 1 tick.

You can adjust the types of spread view by right mouse clicking the button

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Anyone experiencing CQG connection issues today?

It seems I'm having issues both with CQG as well as NinjaTrader with Continuum/CQG connection.

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Nope with qtrader and Sierra


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Same here. CQG is flowing.

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Same here. CQG is flowing.

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Thanks you guys.

Presumably you're connected to US-based servers.

It'd be useful if there were people who connect to Europe-based servers as well, just trying to understand whether these are my own issues or general bandwidth issues across the pond.

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Thanks you guys.

Presumably you're connected to US-based servers.

It'd be useful if there were people who connect to Europe-based servers as well, just trying to understand whether these are my own issues or general bandwidth issues across the pond.

That is correct, however, if your CQG broker uses the Chicago server for risk management, you might as well connect to via USA directly.

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That is correct, however, if your CQG broker uses the Chicago server for risk management, you might as well connect to via USA directly.

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Well, wouldn't I get worse latency? That's what I experienced anyway once or twice when I connected to the US.

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Well, wouldn't I get worse latency? That's what I experienced anyway once or twice when I connected to the US.

I am not sure of your current arrangement, but if your experience is based on "once or twice" figuratively speaking, then I can tell you that everyone has experienced latency issues in one form or another. This is not enough to change the infrastructure you are on.

Let's separate stability issues and latency issues. They are related, but stability has to prevail first. You need to isolate that first, and see whether you may have programs ruining along side your trading platforms, and how that affects the stability of your computer and the internet connection.

As for the execution and latency, again direct access to the exchange is great, but if the risk management verification is done in the USA then you are getting a slight delay.

It seems to me that you have stability issues and net issues, not latency at this point.

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I am not sure of your current arrangement, but if your experience is based on "once or twice" figuratively speaking, then I can tell you that everyone has experienced latency issues in one form or another. This is not enough to change the infrastructure you are on.

Let's separate stability issues and latency issues. They are related, but stability has to prevail first. You need to isolate that first, and see whether you may have programs ruining along side your trading platforms, and how that affects the stability of your computer and the internet connection.

As for the execution and latency, again direct access to the exchange is great, but if the risk management verification is done in the USA then you are not getting a slight delay.

It seems to me that you have stability issues and net issues, not latency at this point.

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Thanks Matt, I'll try to clarify the situation
  • I had connectivity issues earlier today. I seem to have resolved those
  • Early last yearI had different connectivity issues. One of the steps done to troubleshoot those was to connect directly to US servers rather than through European servers
  • However, every time I did connect to US servers (it was in the region of once or twice) it was clear to me that the latency was greater than it is when I am connected to Europe with no issues

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Thanks Matt, I'll try to clarify the situation
  • I had connectivity issues earlier today. I seem to have resolved those
  • Early last yearI had different connectivity issues. One of the steps done to troubleshoot those was to connect directly to US servers rather than through European servers
  • However, every time I did connect to US servers (it was in the region of once or twice) it was clear to me that the latency was greater than it is when I am connected to Europe with no issues

I just edited my quoted post to "you are getting a slight delay"....

If you find that the latency is better while connecting via a European server, then you answered your own question.
My first inclination is to connect directly via a server close to you.

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I just edited my quoted post to "you are getting a slight delay"....

If you find that the latency is better while connecting via a European server, then you answered your own question.
My first inclination is to connect directly via a server close to you.

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Thanks Matt, I think my initial question was more to do with my issues earlier today. In any case I appreciate the support.

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Anyone know if CQG offers dollar index but not through ICE or any equivalent? seems to work well as a leading indicator for Gold movement.. or any other equivalent

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Anyone know if CQG offers dollar index but not through ICE or any equivalent? seems to work well as a leading indicator for Gold movement.. or any other equivalent

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You don't want the ICE dollar future? That's the only one I am aware of (unless I forgot) other than spot.

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do u have it in your Qtrader CQG feed? paying 15 bucks/month for CME bundle.. i dont think so

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do u have it in your Qtrader CQG feed? paying 15 bucks/month for CME bundle.. i dont think so

I stopped using q trader but I have a symbol list that is extensive if you want it.

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I stopped using q trader but I have a symbol list that is extensive if you want it.

Hi bathrobe - how come you stopped using QTrader, if you don't mind my asking?

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Hi bathrobe - how come you stopped using QTrader, if you don't mind my asking?

Absolutely nothing on Q Trader's part, I was actually very surprised at how good the platform was and that it had not been on my radar up until very recently. I was using it for my intra-day ES trades which are based on reading order flow, and short term S/R levels in fast markets and reacting quickly and this is obviously very possible with Q Trader as it offers everything X_Trader does, it's just that I have been using X_Trader for a long, long time and am most comfortable with it, it's like an extention of my hand. I will use Q Trader in the future to execute options on futures, loved the simplicity of the options in the platform and head and shoulders above X_Trader there, and also to trade spreads likely (I am not a fan of the auto spreader). The reasons were very specific to me.

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Absolutely nothing on Q Trader's part, I was actually very surprised at how good the platform was and that it had not been on my radar up until very recently. I was using it for my intra-day ES trades which are based on reading order flow, and short term S/R levels in fast markets and reacting quickly and this is obviously very possible with Q Trader as it offers everything X_Trader does, it's just that I have been using X_Trader for a long, long time and am most comfortable with it, it's like an extention of my hand. I will use Q Trader in the future to execute options on futures, loved the simplicity of the options in the platform and head and shoulders above X_Trader there, and also to trade spreads likely (I am not a fan of the auto spreader). The reasons were very specific to me.

Hi @bathrobe. Great to hear you are a fan of X_TRADER. Are you aware that we have built extensive support for options trading on the TT platform? This includes a Volatility Curve Manager, Options Trade Monitor and an Electronic Eye.

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Absolutely nothing on Q Trader's part, I was actually very surprised at how good the platform was and that it had not been on my radar up until very recently. I was using it for my intra-day ES trades which are based on reading order flow, and short term S/R levels in fast markets and reacting quickly and this is obviously very possible with Q Trader as it offers everything X_Trader does, it's just that I have been using X_Trader for a long, long time and am most comfortable with it, it's like an extention of my hand. I will use Q Trader in the future to execute options on futures, loved the simplicity of the options in the platform and head and shoulders above X_Trader there, and also to trade spreads likely (I am not a fan of the auto spreader). The reasons were very specific to me.

I see, thanks.

In terms of execution and DOM, would you say X-trader has any advantages over QTrader?

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@TradingTech Hi, yes I am testing out in demo the new TT Platform, love what you have done with the options, vol curve manager is great. A smaller thing I love is the way you select the options for a strategy just by clicking on them. (small but good idea)



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I see, thanks.

In terms of execution and DOM, would you say X-trader has any advantages over QTrader?

I think X_Trader is much easier to read when someone lifts or hits the market, the initial red for selling and then white for adding at that price, or green if someone lifts seems to register with me, you can tell it was built by people trading that way (reading the dom). Very simplistic scenario but if you have a level, say 2300.00, and someone comes in and hits 2299.75 for 10, someone lifts 2300 for 40, someone hits .75 with 3-10 contracts a few times and someone lifts 150 at 2300, this is much easier for me to see in X_Trader. This is when and how I execute and it was easiest for me to read with X_Trader. You gotta do what works for you though, I am just some guy on the internet.

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you can email me or post here when you have time
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See post above


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I had a long talk with 2 people at CQG yesterday and it seems that they are finally taking my pleas for a flatten button on the DOM seriously. They said it should be on the next major release ie in 4-6 months. They put it on the mobile platform but not on anything else. Frankly they are the only DOM on the planet without a flatten/liquidate/close button so it's about time, glad to see they might be finally listening to customers!

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so i see the cumulative vol can print either with numbers and/or graph.. but that column in not wide enough

I can have a chart next to it but Q trader doesnt have vol profile either.. so will have to use Sierra etc..

Would be good to see that vol profile column wider so actual profile is shown right on the DOM

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so i see the cumulative vol can print either with numbers and/or graph.. but that column in not wide enough

I can have a chart next to it but Q trader doesnt have vol profile either.. so will have to use Sierra etc..

Would be good to see that vol profile column wider so actual profile is shown right on the DOM

any suggestions?

Agreed but this is down on the list of priorities for me, still waiting on a Flatten button and a few other things

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Hi all,

What are you doing guys with the new upgrade to the beta 18.6.8049?
I don't want to upgrade Q-Trader 2017 right now but if I press Exit I can't login anymore.



Did you find a trick in order to use the 17 again?

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Hi all,

What are you doing guys with the new upgrade to the beta 18.6.8049?
I don't want to upgrade Q-Trader 2017 right now but if I press Exit I can't login anymore.



Did you find a trick in order to use the 17 again?

If you click on 'Upgrade on Log Off', you will be prompted to upgrade again when you log off. Simply decline that one as well.

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Decline again and again and annoyed every day for the next months until the 18 will be stable?
This is a blackmail. Where is an option to stay in version 17 until the 18 will be mandatory?

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Decline again and again and annoyed every day for the next months until the 18 will be stable?
This is a blackmail. Where is an option to stay in version 17 until the 18 will be mandatory?

Welcome to CQG's "aggressive" upgrade policy

It's bad, but not as bad as my constant prompt to participate in CQG's "Customer Experience Improvement Program".


Both of them are part of a nag policy which won't win over the affection of existing customers.


You can always complain.

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Will you and other customer complain for this aggressive upgrade policy?

That telemetry via Customer Experience Improvement Program can be killed properly deleting those files. But you will need to press in a box for a crashreporter error at each startup.

I have just discovered that Q-Trader allows to login automatically after 5' since that CQG QTrader Upgrade snag appears on screen.

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To be fair, CQG has always been very thorough in my experience, only upgrading the platform maybe 2x a year and not releasing the upgrade until most issues are sorted, unlike many other platforms. However, I have several outstanding issues with them in terms of improvements, which makes the constant reminders about 'customer experience' laughable at best. How ironic to constantly prod you to give feedback when they have never once listened to it? Fail

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@ Japhro: customer experience is just the nice name for telemetry at least in my opinion. However I agree with the fact that rarely they implement what you ask unless it's a fix for a bug. Could you please provide an example of your feature requests?

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The big one for me is that they do not have a proper Flatten button on the DOM. I have asked many times, had long conversations with several higher ups and they said they would implement it, it made sense etc, then decided they would not. Then they implemented it only on the mobile version, in an awkward location. Strange to say the least, they are the only platform without a flatten or close button on their dom.

The other is that they don't have a proper chart trader, snaptrader is awkward, difficult to trade with, and they apparently agreed because they deleted it sometime last year, but then because there was no chart trader at all, ppl complained and they brought snaptrader back. It's still the worst version of a chart trader out there, and again, they utterly refuse to do anything about it.

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Since I have the "Customer Experience Improvement Program" option turned off, I get the following nag prompt every 4-5 times I start QTrader up.


Every single time, I open the prompt and select "no".

Invariably, it comes back like a zombie. "Yes" always comes as a pre-selected choice by the way.





Question: if you are using QTrader and if you don't participate, do you get this periodically as well?

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Since I have the "Customer Experience Improvement Program" option turned off, I get the following nag prompt every 4-5 times I start QTrader up.


Every single time, I open the prompt and select "no".

Invariably, it comes back like a zombie. "Yes" always comes as a pre-selected choice by the way.





Question: if you are using QTrader and if you don't participate, do you get this periodically as well?

I have it on since the constant prompts are annoying but then that part of the platform usually fails after a few hours and shuts itself off. irony

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I have it on since the constant prompts are annoying but then that part of the platform usually fails after a few hours and shuts itself off. irony

Thanks, so, to confirm, if you switch it off, you get the prompts as often as I do?

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it's been quite a while but as i recall, yes

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it's been quite a while but as i recall, yes

So, it appears that you need to log a ticket with support to have the nag window for the Customer program removed. I contacted them and I have not had the pop-up since.


Not impressed with the process, but if anyone is experiencing the same and wants to get rid of it, that's the current way to go about it.

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May I ask your support for the new feature in CQG QTrader which is Position in Queue. The work on this has already started, the suggestion number is 1046669401.
If you read this, I would appreciate if you could email support@cqg.com quoting "Position in Queue suggestion no. 1046669401" in the subject line and briefly asking for this to be implemented in the nearest future. I believe this will be a huge improvement to the already solid CQG software.

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May I ask your support for the new feature in CQG QTrader which is Position in Queue. The work on this has already started, the suggestion number is 1046669401.
If you read this, I would appreciate if you could email support@cqg.com quoting "Position in Queue suggestion no. 1046669401" in the subject line and briefly asking for this to be implemented in the nearest future. I believe this will be a huge improvement to the already solid CQG software.

Done

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There are many things that I like about Qtrader but I think I have come to the end of the road with it. They refuse to implement a flatten button on the CQG DOM and this is a deal breaker for me.

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By flatten, do you mean "liquidate this position on this symbol" ?


A true flatten/close button on a DOM does 2 things, liquidates the position and also closes all open orders on the dom. What happens in Qtrader for me is that once I close the position, in fast markets occasionally I get an open order filled before I can cancel them, it has happened enough times in fast-moving symbols like CL and NQ that I prefer not to lose any more money because the developer is too lazy to put something on there that every single other platform on earth has. It's up to them to not listen to customers, and it's up to customers to vote with their feet, so to speak.

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Done

Thanks. The more people insist on this, the more attention it will get and the quicker it will be implemented.

A question for you - do you use a dynamic or responsive price scale? For me, only the responsive one is acceptable because it is hard scalping using a dynamic one.

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Thanks. The more people insist on this, the more attention it will get and the quicker it will be implemented.

A question for you - do you use a dynamic or responsive price scale? For me, only the responsive one is acceptable because it is hard scalping using a dynamic one.

Yes, responsive. I can't deal with the dynamic one either.

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May I ask your support for the new feature in CQG QTrader which is Position in Queue. The work on this has already started, the suggestion number is 1046669401.
If you read this, I would appreciate if you could email support@cqg.com quoting "Position in Queue suggestion no. 1046669401" in the subject line and briefly asking for this to be implemented in the nearest future. I believe this will be a huge improvement to the already solid CQG software.

Done!

EDIT: the reply has been: "I am pleased to say that this functionality is currently being discussed within our Product Development groups.
It is always hard to give a date for when something new is going to appear, so I hesitate to make promises. But, I can confirm that our team is looking at this currently."


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A true flatten/close button on a DOM does 2 things, liquidates the position and also closes all open orders on the dom. What happens in Qtrader for me is that once I close the position, in fast markets occasionally I get an open order filled before I can cancel them, it has happened enough times in fast-moving symbols like CL and NQ that I prefer not to lose any more money because the developer is too lazy to put something on there that every single other platform on earth has. It's up to them to not listen to customers, and it's up to customers to vote with their feet, so to speak.


Well, if it's fast market this means that the actual order flow could be matched faster than the feed you are receiving on DOM. That's why occasionally you could not catch up flattening in time.
The x All LiqAll has always worked for me flawlessly; so I am not sure why this is not working for you. Be sure your account is being linked to the nearest hub available (Europe, US, etc).

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I have always wondered why, when US holidays take place, CQG always treats the holiday day and the next day as a single session, meaning that OHLC values will be calculated across both days, as opposed to calculating them on each.

A couple of days ago I received this from my broker. The notice is related to today's Thanksgiving holiday but it points out that it is the exchange that actually treats both sessions as one.




Mystery solved.

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@paulg
That is exactly the problem and why I no longer use Qtrader. The X all liq all button would work fine if all you traded was one ticker at a time, otherwise, it will X all and Liq everything in your account. I do wish people would read before they reply would save a lot of time

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Flatten button implemented on CQG M (now known as CQG Desktop), but not yet on QTrader.

Go Flat ? for a single symbol - CQG Forums

What's the deal? What is so difficult to implement in one platform but not in the other?

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It's just my personal feeling: QTrader is stuck in between CQG Desktop (formerly CQG M) and CQG Integrated, and being neglected.

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It's just my personal feeling: QTrader is stuck in between CQG Desktop (formerly CQG M) and CQG Integrated, and being neglected.

I'm not sure about that: at the end of the day QTrader is really an instance of IC, stripped down of certain "premium" features. But it's still got the same engine as IC's. In fact they tend to be upgraded in tandem.

I bet neither IC has this 'flatten' button.

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I was wondering how to get multiple DOMs showing side by side? (and not in tabs).

I've pulled up a synthetic spread chart, but I'm having problems as I want one DOM for each leg of the spread.

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I was wondering how to get multiple DOMs showing side by side? (and not in tabs).

I've pulled up a synthetic spread chart, but I'm having problems as I want one DOM for each leg of the spread.

Assuming we're talking about QTrader, you click on the "Q" icon on the top-left corner of the DOM and select "Replicate"

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After much prodding, it appears that CQG will make good on my request for the next release, which was to add a flatten button to their DOM. Also you may have noticed that they did away with snaptrader, apparently they are working on another form of chart trader, hopefully a better one than snaptrader, something more along the lines of what Ninja/Sierra/Multicharts uses, so you can drag your orders around easily.

It seems that CQG added the button you requested on CQG Trader X Global

If you hover over this, you will see that it says "Cancel All Orders for all symbols and all accounts"

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It seems that CQG added the button you requested on CQG Trader X Global

If you hover over this, you will see that it says "Cancel All Orders for all symbols and all accounts"

What specific QTrader version is this, Matt?

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What specific QTrader version is this, Matt?

The feature upgrade I saw was on CQG Trader, and I did not try it on Q Trader.
I can ask CQG if it is available there.

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The feature upgrade I saw was on CQG Trader, and I did not try it on Q Trader.
I can ask CQG if it is available there.

Ah, I see. I always get tricked by the CQG Trader/CQG QTrader thing.

Thanks, don't worry, they should be publishing a beta version this week for QTrader.

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Hate to burst everyone's bubble but that's not a flatten button. Its a global cancel all but doesn't close the position.

Recently, someone from CQG emailed me to tell me my feature request was finally added. Then they suggested I take a demo to try it (I left CQG and Qtrader over this issue). Oddly, this was still not added, and when I asked the person at CQG about this, they said, 'it will be added soon'. Then I asked when, and they couldn't tell me. So...still waiting LOL

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Hate to burst everyone's bubble but that's not a flatten button. Its a global cancel all but doesn't close the position.

Recently, someone from CQG emailed me to tell me my feature request was finally added. Then they suggested I take a demo to try it (I left CQG and Qtrader over this issue). Oddly, this was still not added, and when I asked the person at CQG about this, they said, 'it will be added soon'. Then I asked when, and they couldn't tell me. So...still waiting LOL

My mistake was referencing the wrong button, and I apologize.
On the new version of CQG Trader 7.1.11 there is a button that says
X ALL Liq ALL if you hover over it it says "Cancel all orders for all symbols on current account and liquidate all positions for current account"

So....it was added. I assume Q Trader will be next or check if it was added already.



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Again, and this is not a criticism per se, but this has happened REPEATEDLY in this thread, but again,
and now again, you have gotten it wrong. The X all Liq All does exactly that, cancels and liquidates EVERYTHING in your account, not just on the symbol you have loaded up on the particular DOM you are trading on.

This is problematic when you trade multiple symbols and/or a combination of futures and options etc. I do not want to have to close my VIX spreads and my ES calls when I close my NQ position. Why should I? Every other platform ON EARTH has this function. A flatten button, sometimes called CLOSE simply closes the current position on that one symbol and cancels all open orders. Simple. Yet CQG and it seems, others on this thread are startlingly confused about the function of it.

As of yet, CQG has not implemented a flatten button on anything other than CQG M, now renamed something else, and on that, it is not located on the dom, so very inconvenient as well. Just clarifying what is actually going on, since there seems to be confusion and misinformation around. Cheers - J



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My mistake was referencing the wrong button, and I apologize.
On the new version of CQG Trader 7.1.11 there is a button that says
X ALL Liq ALL if you hover over it it says "Cancel all orders for all symbols on current account and liquidate all positions for current account"

So....it was added. I assume Q Trader will be next or check if it was added already.



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Again, and this is not a criticism per se, but this has happened REPEATEDLY in this thread, but again,
and now again, you have gotten it wrong. The X all Liq All does exactly that, cancels and liquidates EVERYTHING in your account, not just on the symbol you have loaded up on the particular DOM you are trading on.

This is problematic when you trade multiple symbols and/or a combination of futures and options etc. I do not want to have to close my VIX spreads and my ES calls when I close my NQ position. Why should I? Every other platform ON EARTH has this function. A flatten button, sometimes called CLOSE simply closes the current position on that one symbol and cancels all open orders. Simple. Yet CQG and it seems, others on this thread are startlingly confused about the function of it.

As of yet, CQG has not implemented a flatten button on anything other than CQG M, now renamed something else, and on that, it is not located on the dom, so very inconvenient as well. Just clarifying what is actually going on, since there seems to be confusion and misinformation around. Cheers - J

Understood!

In my opinion, most of CQG efforts and development will go towards CQG Mobile now called CQG Desktop. If the feature you want is there, maybe you could get a second login to your account which is possible and have and CQG Desktop open. I do hope they will bring it to Q Trader, but as we always say in this business....it is what it is. At the end of the day, you can cancel all orders on your instrument and hit the @MKT button. Just a suggestion. After all, the buttons are beside each other.


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In my opinion, most of CQG efforts and development will go towards CQG Mobile now called CQG Desktop.

I respect your expert opinion Matt, and sincerely hope that's not the case.

While CQG Desktop is making advances (I understand), it does not appear nearly as user friendly as QTrader at the moment.

Plus, QTrader really is nothing more but a skinned version of IC, which I don't think will disappear any time soon, given it's supposed to be CQG's flagship product. QTrader and IC tend to be released hand in hand as, again, the engine is the same.

I'm sure I'm not saying anything you don't know but I thought it'd be worth pointing this out for the thread's consumer anyway.

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I respect your expert opinion Matt, and sincerely hope that's not the case.

While CQG Desktop is making advances (I understand), it does not appear nearly as user friendly as QTrader at the moment.

Plus, QTrader really is nothing more but a skinned version of IC, which I don't think will disappear any time soon, given it's supposed to be CQG's flagship product. QTrader and IC tend to be released hand in hand as, again, the engine is the same.

I'm sure I'm not saying anything you don't know but I thought it'd be worth pointing this out for the thread's consumer anyway.

My comments are just a result of the trend that I see not only in the finance/trading industry but worldwide. Downloadable software is becoming a thing of the past. Web-based products can run on any operating system, any mobile device and if you wish to upgrade to a new version you do not have to do anything.

Consider what a hassle it is today to demo a downloadable product. Download, then insert data, then connect.
Now look at the CQG desktop; it takes about 30 seconds to get the demo up and running.

The reality is that downloadable software has become expensive to maintain and support. We saw TT, CQG and MarketDelta cloud migrate to web-based execution.

From the CQG products, I am a big fan of CQG Trader. It is a downloadable product. But, just because I like, it does not mean that I can't see the industry trend.

What we see now is gen one of web-based applications and I sure that we will see significant upgrades in latency and design in the years to come.

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I respect your expert opinion Matt, and sincerely hope that's not the case.

While CQG Desktop is making advances (I understand), it does not appear nearly as user friendly as QTrader at the moment.

Plus, QTrader really is nothing more but a skinned version of IC, which I don't think will disappear any time soon, given it's supposed to be CQG's flagship product. QTrader and IC tend to be released hand in hand as, again, the engine is the same.

I'm sure I'm not saying anything you don't know but I thought it'd be worth pointing this out for the thread's consumer anyway.

Agree, CQG M (Desktop) is not terribly user-friendly yet for trading, order entry and changes are cumbersome, slow and the charting capability is still very rudimentary. I think if CQG ends up forcing users into that they will lose business. Just imo. CQG has a lot of great technology, but in my view they are a bit scattered when it comes to product offerings. IC is great but lacks some simple things, and the a la carte pricing is way out of line with what other platforms can do for a fraction of the cost now (ie Sierra).

My personal rant here but I own a number of platforms and have leased many others and many are so close to being great, but fall short by simply missing one or two things that they could add but simply refuse to. So you need multiple platforms for charting and execution and multiple data fees/accounts then they want to consider you a pro for fees, it's all a mess. The industry badly needs to get its act together, imo.

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Agree, CQG M (Desktop) is not terribly user-friendly yet for trading, order entry and changes are cumbersome, slow and the charting capability is still very rudimentary. I think if CQG ends up forcing users into that they will lose business. Just imo. CQG has a lot of great technology, but in my view they are a bit scattered when it comes to product offerings. IC is great but lacks some simple things, and the a la carte pricing is way out of line with what other platforms can do for a fraction of the cost now (ie Sierra).

My personal rant here but I own a number of platforms and have leased many others and many are so close to being great, but fall short by simply missing one or two things that they could add but simply refuse to. So you need multiple platforms for charting and execution and multiple data fees/accounts then they want to consider you a pro for fees, it's all a mess. The industry badly needs to get its act together, imo.

Yes, I didn't know Futures business is mess up like this. I regret I decided to migrate from Forex to Futures. Forex is much simpler and well-structured/shaped under the common standard....

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Yes, I didn't know Futures business is mess up like this. I regret I decided to migrate from Forex to Futures. Forex is much simpler and well-structured/shaped under the common standard....

This is a discussion of one platform. It is not representative of the Futures world.
Most find the Futures world rather standardized, except that you just have to choose the right software for it.
If you were able to manage the FX world where every broker makes his/own her spreads, swaps, etc. you could manage the Futures world (in my opinion).

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This is a discussion of one platform. It is not representative of the Futures world.
Most find the Futures world rather standardized, except that you just have to choose the right software for it.
If you were able to manage the FX world where every broker makes his/own her spreads, swaps, etc. you could manage the Futures world (in my opinion).

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Agree with this, the Forex world might seem simpler with most users using MT4 or MT5 and everything seems free but you pay for it in spread.

Futures are regulated, and you trade in standard sized bites with known commissions fees, plenty of liquidity etc.
The issue I have with futures sometimes is that with 3rd party platforms some can do this or that well but not options too, for example. So I end up running 2-3 platforms, charting, execution, and orderflow etc. It can be a pain.

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Today I found out by accident that with my CME standard exchange data feed I also have access to NYSE TICK and TRIN in QTrader.

Not that I will use it right away but useful to know it's available.



For those that may find it useful, the CQG codes are DJTIC and DJTRN.

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Been experiencing access issues today, both on the CQG platform as well as via NinjaTrader with a Continuum (which is CQG) login.

CQG are aware, they sent out this comms


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There are some delays with Trader IDís logging in today, this is being investigated and connections are being made after a few attempts.

The below notification has been sent to all FCMs and we will update once the issue is resolved.



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Been experiencing access issues today, both on the CQG platform as well as via NinjaTrader with a Continuum (which is CQG) login.

CQG are aware, they sent out this comms

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CQG confirms that this issue is resolved.

Do you know if this was related to the issues during the Sunday night open?

Thanks for the heads up!

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Do you know if this was related to the issues during the Sunday night open?

Thanks for the heads up!

Unfortunately, I do not know.

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Been experiencing access issues today, both on the CQG platform as well as via NinjaTrader with a Continuum (which is CQG) login.

CQG are aware, they sent out this comms

FWIW same issue on Sierra Chart fed by CQG data (appears now to be fixed as well).

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Wondering if this is an Amp limitation or Qtrader

) Outrights Data: Only until Sept/Oct 2015 from Amp through CQG Fix (how can i get more historical data)

Spread Charts:
For more complex/synthetic spreads i.e. not exchange calendars, i am trying to chart present and historic charts like below. You can chart using SPREAD or BAR command.. I am looking to get candlesticks and NOT just lines (lines work fine)

a1) BAR(CLES1Z8-CLES1Z9,1) - this works with candlesticks but data is only until July 18

a2) If i put in the same as SPREAD(CLES1Z8-CLES1Z9), i get a line chart all the way until Oct 2015


Now historical,

b1) SPREAD(CLES1Z6-CLES1Z7) - nothing shows up (says contract not available)

b2) BAR(CLES1Z6-CLES1Z7,1) - nothing shows up and says CLES1Z7 contract not available (though CLES1z16 and cles1z17 both show up)

I tried this using full year - still nothing but no error message
SPREAD(CLES1Z16-CLES1Z17) - this shows up using the full year but of course only line

Butterflies:
c1) BAR(CLES1Z18-2*CLES1F19+CLES1G19,1) this works with candlesticks but data is only until July 18

c2) Tried the same with historical data BAR(CLES1Z16-2*CLES1F17+CLES1G17,1) and nothing shows up

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Wondering if this is an Amp limitation or Qtrader

) Outrights Data: Only until Sept/Oct 2015 from Amp through CQG Fix (how can i get more historical data)

Sorry I can't help you with options, I know absolutely nothing about them.

As for outrights, I see daily bars back to Sept/Oct 2015 same as you. Smaller time frames, e.g. 5 mins bar I see only 3 months back. That's how much I'm told QTrader holds.


You could probably get more historical data through CQG, it'll cost you though.

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hi, i have seen a trader wich affirms to pay 30k monthly, having some big orders appearing i don't have using CQG, has anyone any experience about that ?

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You are polluting many threads with the same question. Stop posting the same question everywhere or you are going to be banned.

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30/month for 18 months intraday data


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CQG Integrated Client can really add up, a friend pays around $1400 for 2 exchanges in IC, if you add OTC treasury data it can really, really add up. 30k for data is unbelievable for me considering I use DTN IQ but to each his own. Maybe he uses CQG IC, every exchange, Bloomberg and Thompson Reuters?

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So can I ask how much u pay for IQ for CME bundle?


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I'm not sure if you meant me but I don't think he has that and unless someone wants to correct me the CME bundle is a data feed similar to DTN IQ Feed, the bundle is an execution feed from your broker.

More than 10 years ago I asked them about Index data with IC and it was in the $700 to $900 per month range. On top of the software if I remember correctly.

This thread is regarding the retail Q Trader (which I am sure you know). Information about IC may be elsewhere, don't know.

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I have 2 CQG accounts and im getting the runaround from both CQG, Bookmap and the FCMs
I know u cannot share a CQG account so i have 2 CQG accounts from 2 different FCMs
Each CQG login works with Bookmap and with Qtrader separately

BUT
At the same time, when i login to Q trader (not even the FCM for trading), it boots me out of Bookmap or vice versa.. if i am in Qtrader and login to Bookmap with the other FCM ID, it boots me out

So
a) Is anyone in this situation
b) Any advice OTHER than creating a second CQG account with the same FCM or using Rithmic for Bookmap

How about running the 2 on 2 different machines? (though this is not ideal)
Note: I have a feeling something to do with CQG Fix or WebAPI shared on the same machine

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