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Trevor Harnett, the Founder and CEO of MarketDelta, will be monitoring this thread so that he may answer any questions that you post here relating to MarketDelta products and services.

Please keep in mind that some customer service/technical support issues are best handled through proper channels at MarketDelta.

MarketDelta is a state-of-the-art trading platform that specializes in Footprint charts, Volume Profile, Market Profile, and Order Flow analysis. The platform also has the capability for order-entry through their DOM, called "MarketDelta Trader", which is a static price ladder DOM with automated order management. MarketDelta also has some mobile apps for iPhone and iPad, like their Heat Map tool.

In addition to this thread, I will also be asking Trevor Harnett to stop by on occasion for a casual webinar where he can answer questions via audio while also sharing his screen to visually demonstrate any points as needed. The date/time of those sessions will be announced here in this thread. These sessions will be limited to questions only, there is no prepared presentation. After the session ends, the recording will be posted in this thread.

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The futures.io (formerly BMT) "AMA" (Ask Me Anything) series is by invitation only. It is part of a new program we are launching shortly called "Certified Trustworthy", something that has been months in the making. I will provide all the details of this new program as soon as it is ready for launch.

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@MarketDelta, Trevor do you have plans to code for Android? Some of us are not Apple fanbois I like the apps you are offering, but don't own any Apple iOS devices nor do I plan to.

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I'd like to know how to create Cummulative $ticks as bars the same way we can plot cummulative delta as delta bars. It would be interesting to run them side by side to possibly see divergences in buying/selling pressure.

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You are certainly not the first to ask this but for now our mobile team is focused on iOS only. I am sure Android will be in our future but we are having a lot of fun being creative with iOS for now.


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@MarketDelta, Trevor do you have plans to code for Android? Some of us are not Apple fanbois I like the apps you are offering, but don't own any Apple iOS devices nor do I plan to.

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Dear Volt,
If I am mis-interpreting your question email support@MarketDelta.com and please clarify and they will be more than happy to assist further.

If you are referring to the NYSE Cumulative Tick statistic ($TICK), you will not be able to plot it in the same way as Cumulative Delta for a traded symbol because $TICK does not contain the necessary BidxAsk data that the Delta requires.

Make a great day!
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I'd like to know how to create Cummulative $ticks as bars the same way we can plot cummulative delta as delta bars. It would be interesting to run them side by side to possibly see divergences in buying/selling pressure.

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@Volt, this thread isn't for tech support.

Please keep in mind that some customer service/technical support issues are best handled through proper channels at MarketDelta.

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I'm deciding between Sierra Chart and Market Delta right now.

I'm interested in Volume Profile and Footprint Charts. Both Sierra Chart and Market Delta offer these features, however, there is a huge price difference.

Sierra is $45 per month vs ~$150 per month for Market Delta.

I don't mean to turn this into a comparison thread. As a potential customer I'm just wondering what the advantages are for me to pay over $100 more when both platforms offer the same thing. Are there any specifics differences I should look into that Market Delta offers that Sierra does not? I'm always willing to pay more for better quality tools (in trading I think you can't afford to be cheap in this regard), but I'm not finding a major reason why Footprint or Volume Profile charts would be different between the two.

I'll be using IQFeed as my data provider.


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Is it possible to explain why bid-ask prints are different in MD to other packages line NT7?

 
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And another one- is it possible to import tick data to MD from NT7 (it creates 3 separate files)?

 
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Is it possible to explain why bid-ask prints are different in MD to other packages line NT7?

Can you post a video or screenshots to illustrate this?

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On Wednesday, March 6th @ 12:00 PM ET we'll hold a casual meeting with Trevor Harnett of MarketDelta. The purpose of this meeting is to answer any questions from members.

- AMA's are quick and casual
- No formal presentation, only Q&A from members
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- Session capped at 30 minutes
- Recording will be uploaded to this thread
- Attend live to get your questions answered

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I'm interested in Volume Profile and Footprint Charts.

I don't mean to turn this into a comparison thread. As a potential customer I'm just wondering what the advantages are....

Are there any specifics differences I should look into that Market Delta offers that Sierra does not?

I'm always willing to pay more for better quality tools (in trading I think you can't afford to be cheap in this regard), but I'm not finding a major reason why Footprint or Volume Profile charts would be different between the two.

I'll be using IQFeed as my data provider.
Thanks!

MarketDelta is different and worth it for many reasons. A very important thing to keep in mind is not just what the MarketDelta software might do but also the value of being a customer of MarketDelta and the quality of support you receive as a client. MD offers 24 hours support, including live support during the U.S. hours. Subscribers to MD also gain access to subscriber only webinars and training, something we invest a lot of time and effort into.

As for the software itself, MarketDelta offers much greater functionality and features when it comes to the Footprint and Volume Profiling. You may not know this, but MarketDelta is the inventor of the Footprint and the leader in functionality and application of it. Bottom line, if you are interested in order flow, volume profiling, Market Profile, and the Footprint then MarketDelta is where you will end up and we would like to argue it is where you should start. Anything else is simply an imitation and does not provide any value after the sale.

Our goal is to be the best, not the cheapest. We serve many professional, high volume traders around the world and in prop firms. This type of client requires a different level of support, and frankly, demands a better product that can serve their needs well. This has kept us sharp and continuing to innovate, not copy.

Lastly, if you are the decision solely on price alone you should consider MarketDelta Trader. It is our Trading DOM with a built in Footprint and is free. www.marketdelta.com/trader. It provides some basic Footprint functionality and allows you to start off and then add MarketDelta Charts to the mix when you are ready. We look forward to working with you. Please direct any further questions to sales@MarketDelta.com.

Make a great day!
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AMA session beginning: https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/762573870

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Here is today's live AMA session recording.

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@MarketDelta,

In the AMA you briefly mentioned some other unique bar types, can you tell us a bit more about them? I know a lot of members are always interested in custom bar types.

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What did everyone think of the AMA live session?

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@MarketDelta,

In the AMA you briefly mentioned some other unique bar types, can you tell us a bit more about them? I know a lot of members are always interested in custom bar types.

Mike

What I was referring to are customer bar intervals, otherwise known as "periodicities" in MarketDelta. Because MD is very order flow centric, we provide some unique ways to build bars based upon volume and unique data points the Footprint provides.
  • Delta Bars - Creates a bar until a user-specified delta per bar is achieved. Delta is considered an absolute value for this periodicity.
  • POC Volume Creates a bar until a specified amount of volume is achieved in one of the Footprints.
  • Volume Breakout The range of the bar is determined once the volume level specified is achieved. Then when price breaks out of this range a new bar is formed.
  • Delta Reversal Like reversal charts which are based up on the point and figure methodology, delta reversal charts also use the same methodology. The difference is instead of using price to be the determinant of the reversal, delta is used.
  • Heavy Sided This creates a new bar only when a specified volume amount is traded on the bid side or ask side of a Footprint.
  • Price Delta Creates a new bar when the entered delta value is achieved for any price within the current bar.
Here is a link to all the periodicities offered in MarketDelta Charts. Periodicities in MarketDelta

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What I was referring to are customer bar intervals, otherwise known as "periodicities" in MarketDelta. Because MD is very order flow centric, we provide some unique ways to build bars based upon volume and unique data points the Footprint provides.
  • Delta Bars - Creates a bar until a user-specified delta per bar is achieved. Delta is considered an absolute value for this periodicity.
  • POC Volume Creates a bar until a specified amount of volume is achieved in one of the Footprints.
  • Volume Breakout The range of the bar is determined once the volume level specified is achieved. Then when price breaks out of this range a new bar is formed.
  • Delta Reversal Like reversal charts which are based up on the point and figure methodology, delta reversal charts also use the same methodology. The difference is instead of using price to be the determinant of the reversal, delta is used.
  • Heavy Sided This creates a new bar only when a specified volume amount is traded on the bid side or ask side of a Footprint.
  • Price Delta Creates a new bar when the entered delta value is achieved for any price within the current bar.
Here is a link to all the periodicities offered in MarketDelta Charts. Periodicities in MarketDelta

Very nice, thank you. I'd like to explore those more in the next AMA live session.

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Trevor,

I'm not sure what this is called exactly so I'll do my best to describe it.

I always want accurate profiles, so I want to use a 1-tick resolution when building the profile data so that value areas, POC's etc are as accurate as possible. I prefer to display my profiles primarily on a daily chart, and for instance on a TPO chart I am using 30-minute TPO's.

What ends up happening with the charting app I am using is that I have to specify a "ticks per bar" so that each bar/plot on the chart isn't super tiny and impossible to read. But with any value greater than 1, the actual value for the VAH/VAL/POC etc end up being not as accurate.

Worse, in other platforms I've used in the past, the accuracy ended up only being down to 1-minute resolution as opposed to my desired resolution of 1-tick.

I hope that makes sense.

Now my question - does MarketDelta have this same problem?

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Hi Trevor,
is the trading room focused on learning strategies alone using Market Delta charts or also general teachings on the market, market theory, profiles and so on..?
What instrument is traded?
Is MD chart needed or we can join the service using other chart package?

Thank you for your time!

 
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Trevor,

I always want accurate profiles, so I want to use a 1-tick resolution when building the profile data so that value areas, POC's etc are as accurate as possible. I prefer to display my profiles primarily on a daily chart, and for instance on a TPO chart I am using 30-minute TPO's.

Worse, in other platforms I've used in the past, the accuracy ended up only being down to 1-minute resolution as opposed to my desired resolution of 1-tick.

Mike

Hi Big Mike,
If I understand correctly, basically you want the highest resolution profiles possible so that everything that is calculated from them is as accurate as possible. Given that, MarketDelta gives you the capability to accomplish what you want. Here are the key points:
  • MD stores all the historical data locally on your computer making it extremely fast at computing and manipulating volume and profile data. The locally stored data can be refreshed from a remote server at any time with a click of a button.
  • Because the volume data is local, MD computes the profiles off of the high resolution of data on hand and then next highest, and then the next highest. So if you have 100 days of tick data stored, all profile data will be computed off the 100 days of tick data creating extremely high resolution profiles. If the profile you were viewing was 500 days, MD uses 100 days of tick and then 1 min data for the remaining days. This is all done automatically.

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Is the trading room focused on learning strategies alone using Market Delta charts or also general teachings on the market, market theory, profiles and so on..?

It is very focused on reading the Footprint chart, but other trading concepts and special topics are covered from time to time. A suite of recorded webinars is also provided to attendees which go in-depth on other trading topics.


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What instrument is traded?

ES, NQ, ZB, Euro, CL are the primary markets. FDAX, FESX, FGBL referenced sometimes.


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Is MD chart needed or we can join the service using other chart package?

MarketDelta Charts is not required to join however you will get more value when using MD Charts. Here are 2 reasons.
  1. There is a free inter-market divergence indicator provided to all room members that only works with MD.
  1. Also the trading levels are automatically programmed to show up on your MD charts.
More info provided here.

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Trevor, I got an email from MD a couple of weeks ago about a webinar that took place last Monday, March 4. I can't remember the title, but it was at a time I was unable to attend live. I looked at MD's web site and saw some webinar recordings but none have been added to this page in the last year. Was the webinar last Monday recorded, and if so, is it possible for me to watch it?

 
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Trevor, I got an email from MD a couple of weeks ago about a webinar that took place last Monday, March 4. Was the webinar last Monday recorded, and if so, is it possible for me to watch it?

It was recorded and was posted here. Unlock Your Potential Using Common Sense Secrets from a Trading Veteran We always record our webinars and make them available in one form or another. Some webinars are reserved for subscribers only as part of the additional value of being a subscriber.

Let any of us know if you have additional questions or need any help.

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Thank you Trevor, I appreciate the link!

 
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Hello, Trevor.
I'm a new MD user and can't but admire your product which is definitely the single most helpful software available to retail investor.
Though bid-ask chart is the the purest and finest form of maket data representation, I prefer to work with visual Footprint. However, sometimes I find it rather difficult due to the following issue. Volume bars in each time-based Footprint chart aren't normalized. I mean that we might have two neighbouring bars(e.g. one hour bars) with sufficiently different volumes. But volume bars in them seem like they are almost equal bacause they cover almost the same area on the chart. To my mind this situation may crerate serious misunderstanding of market information. I assume this could be fixed by normalizing chart area with corresponding volume(i.e. 10k bar will cover 10 squared cells, 100k bar will cover 100 squared cells). I asked MD support about this problem but they told me it couldn't be solved. Perhaps, you might advise me something on this matter.
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Hello Mr. Harnett.

Are there any intentions to 64-bit version and MD Charts for Linux/MacOS?

Thank you.

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No, there are no plans for an Linux/MacOS version at this time.


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Hello Mr. Harnett.

Are there any intentions to 64-bit version and MD Charts for Linux/MacOS?

Thank you.


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I tested your MD Trader program and liked it the most out of the other 3 I tested.
I'm looking into your charting program now but I need to be able to write my own code using
your volume profile code as my base.

Is it possible to take your code for the volume profile and alter it to create my own levels (similar to va high and va low)? I've already written it for thinkscript (thinkorswim platform) but am looking around at other options.

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I believe you are talking about MarketDelta Charts, not MarketDelta Trader.

The answer is no, RTL (our proprietary programming language for working with indicators) does not provide this currently. The only solution will probably be plugin using our SDK, but even then it would probably take some work on our end to enable plugins to see the data you need. We would need more information about what data points you need for your calcs.


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Is it possible to take your code for the volume profile and alter it to create my own levels (similar to va high and va low)? I am looking around at other options.


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hi Harnett
I like this Delta Periodicity type of plot, but I have a question why the different platforms I see a different picture, even if you use the same data provider as IQFeed
I compared your platform with a SC


I do not understand why the same type of graph in the two platforms provides a variety of information
and another important point where the information is built correctly?
I understand that in this world everyone wants to plagiarize and do not think of myself as better copy
thank you

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Dear Jonson,
This is going to sound self promotional but I don't know how to provide a better answer for you. MarketDelta is the orginator of the "delta" concept and something we created over 10 years ago. That's why it is in our name. "Delta" was created to describe what we were seeing while trading for our own account at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.

Out of our research came the delta periodicity and we shared it with the world inside MD. In fact, I can remember the very first time I showed it with someone at the exchange back in 2006. They were awestruck and what it was showing them.

We have lots and lots of experience handling the data and creating the most accurate picture. IQFeed is excellent data but each program needs to make sense of that data and MD has the most experience and process for doing so. Hope this helps!


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hi Harnett
I like this Delta Periodicity type of plot, but I have a question why the different platforms I see a different picture, even if you use the same data provider as IQFeed


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I like this Delta Periodicity type of plot, but I have a question why the different platforms I see a different picture, even if you use the same data provider as IQFeed
I compared your platform with a SC

Only one of your pictures is visible--can you please post them both correctly so a comparison can be made? Also, can you post the dates, times, session times, your time zone, product, and any information that someone might use in reproducing your chart? Perhaps use the ES, or something a bit more common?

 
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Only one of your pictures is visible--can you please post them both correctly so a comparison can be made? Also, can you post the dates, times, session times, your time zone, product, and any information that someone might use in reproducing your chart? Perhaps use the ES, or something a bit more common?

hi Josh
my timezone +4
time and date from screenshoots, you can see for yourself if you are attentive, all information is presented
at the moment I do not use ES in my analysis

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* Markets produce an enormous volume of information, much of which is redundant
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hi Josh
my timezone +4
time and date from screenshoots, you can see for yourself if you are attentive, all information is presented
at the moment I do not use ES in my analysis

Your second screen shot (from SC) is not showing up for me, only the first one.

Your bars could be different if the session start times on the two different programs are not the same, which is why I asked what the session start times are. This information is not available from the chart (definitely not the sierra one anyway). I am plenty attentive, and only trying to help you figure out a potential difference, as I do not care about the outcome much either way.

 
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Let's keep all troubleshooting out of this thread. This thread is to give members the opportunity to have a two-way conversation with the CEO of MarketDelta, all other subjects are off-topic.

Create a separate thread to continue the troubleshooting please.

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Hi all

Wondered if someone could help me with market Delta.

few questions....

Looking to get Market Delta charts Professional Edition, but what i understand that i have to have a account with one of brokers you have listed to get the data feed.

What if you don't have a account with the listed brokers? am listed in the Uk

Can you get A subscription just for the data feed? as i am only interested in the Charts/footprint

 
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Two questions regarding Market Delta Trader.
1. How can I place a limit order - e.g. for long above the current trading price? This feature is required when trading breakouts and is available in other DOM's. When I click left click in the buys column, Market Delta Trader turns it into a market order at the current traded level price.
2. I do not use the Footprint. Can I turn the footprint.exe off when using the Market Delta Trader in order to save PC resources?

The Market Delta Trader looks great and I would love to start using it in trading. Especially the 5 leg OCO feature is cool!

I hope you can help me out with my two questions above. For charting I use Ninja so I look to Market Delta Trader as stand alone application.

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1. How can I place a limit order - e.g. for long above the current trading price? This feature is required when trading breakouts and is available in other DOM's. When I click left click in the buys column, Market Delta Trader turns it into a market order at the current traded level price.

A limit order to buy at or above the inside offer will always become a marketable order and you will get an instant fill. I think you mean "How can I place a stop order?" I don't know for sure as I don't use MD, but right click would be a logical choice, as most every DOM has this as the standard behavior.

 
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Two questions regarding Market Delta Trader.
1. How can I place a limit order - e.g. for long above the current trading price? This feature is required when trading breakouts and is available in other DOM's. When I click left click in the buys column, Market Delta Trader turns it into a market order at the current traded level price.
2. I do not use the Footprint. Can I turn the footprint.exe off when using the Market Delta Trader in order to save PC resources?

The Market Delta Trader looks great and I would love to start using it in trading. Especially the 5 leg OCO feature is cool!

I hope you can help me out with my two questions above. For charting I use Ninja so I look to Market Delta Trader as stand alone application.

Regards,
Mike

to turn off footprint, click on that arrow.



there're some doms (the better ones) when you click above the bid, it creates automatically a stop buy order. but I don't know about market delta trader.

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1. How can I place a limit order - e.g. for long above the current trading price? This feature is required when trading breakouts and is available in other DOM's. When I click left click in the buys column, Market Delta Trader turns it into a market order at the current traded level price.

@josh is correct, I believe you are referring to a buy stop. To place a buy stop in MarketDelta Trader just right click above the best bid (in the open blue area). Scroll to 1:55 in the video to see where this is described.




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2. I do not use the Footprint. Can I turn the footprint.exe off when using the Market Delta Trader in order to save PC resources?

@Silvester17 is spot on here. Just click the button located at top left of the price scale to hide or reveal the Footprint chart! Easy on, easy off.

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Thanks to all for answering my 2 questions.

1. Placing a limit order long ABOVE the current price. Some traders need this option (Yes, first price has to go up to a certain level and only there I want to go long on Limited order). Ninjatrader and Multicharts (and no doubt others as well) have this nice feature. Apparantly Market Delta Trader has this feature not (yet?).

2. Stopping footprint.exe. I know one can open/close the window that shows the footprint. But I want to save PC resources. I do not use the Footprint and noticed there is a footprint.exe running. So I wondered if I can setup the Market Delta trader in such a way that the footprint.exe is not running on my PC. I apologise if I did not ask my question more clear before. I intend to have many DOM's open at the same time - therefore my concern regarding PC resources.

Still the Market Delta trader looks very nice - especially the 5 leg OCO functionality !

 
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Thanks to all for answering my 2 questions.

1. Placing a limit order long ABOVE the current price. Some traders need this option (Yes, first price has to go up to a certain level and only there I want to go long on Limited order). Ninjatrader and Multicharts (and no doubt others as well) have this nice feature. Apparantly Market Delta Trader has this feature not (yet?).

You are still confused about order types, at least the terminology. A Buy Limit order says: "buy at X price or lower." So, if you enter a buy limit at X, where the best offer is sitting at X-5, then by definition, your order becomes marketable and will fill instantly, because X-5 is less than X. A google search on order types will give you this information to confirm for yourself. Again, a limit order long ABOVE the current price will fill immediately, and will match to the best current offer. This is how all markets will match your order.

It sounds like maybe you mean a stop-limit order. A buy stop limit order says: "when price X or greater trades, enter a limit to buy at offset X+Y." Its primary purpose is to act as a stop order, but can be used to limit slippage that might occur in a fast moving market environment. The upside is that you limit, eliminate, or even reverse slippage, but the downside is that you do not guarantee a fill, because you are placing a limit on the price you will accept. So, when the market is trading X-5 and then advances to trade X, your stop price, then your limit order is placed. If you have entered a zero or positive Y, you will likely get an immediate fill, for the same reasons mentioned in the first paragraph--that the limit is placed at or better than the best offer (assuming this is a normal liquid market not at a volatile news time). If Y is negative, the buy limit will be placed below X, and you can get an advantageous price better than your original stop, but of course the market must trade down to your price and there is greater risk of not getting a fill.

Now that the order types are more clearly explained, was the stop limit order the type you are referring to? While both order types get you long, the mechanism for doing so is completely different (almost opposite in fact) so the terms "Limit" and "Stop Limit" are not interchangeable any more than "Limit" and "Stop" are.

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Josh, Thnaks for the clear explanation. I think I mean a Stop Limit Order.

Just to make sure I understand your terminology:
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If price moves up to 1400 I want to enter the market with a long at 1400. Once hit the short order is canceled.
If price moves down to 1396,50, I want to enter the market with a short at 1396,50. Once hit the long order is canceled.

So is a Stop Limit Order (or similar funcionality as described here above) available in Market Delta Trader?

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If price moves up to 1400 I want to enter the market with a long at 1400. Once hit the short order is canceled.
If price moves down to 1396,50, I want to enter the market with a short at 1396,50. Once hit the long order is canceled.

So is a Stop Limit Order (or similar funcionality as described here above) available in Market Delta Trader?

Actually what you are showing here is a standard OCO bracket with both orders being regular stop orders. A buy stop is above at 1400, and a sell stop is below at 1396.50. This is typically for opening or increasing a position. You can usually use a stop limit instead of a stop, which is what you are showing.

From the page here, look at the "ATOM" (automated trade management) part and you will see that MD supports OCO brackets. But I'm sure the MD guys can give you more thorough information. It looks like MD offers a free trial--the only way to know if you will like software is to try it, and do some discovery, so you will likely want to take advantage of that. Hope this helps!

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Hi,

I installed MDTrader on 64-bit PC and all seemed OK, but I can't create ATOM orders, when I press ATOM - nothing happens (no window appears for order setup).
Is it something that can be rectified or 64-bit are not supported?

 
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I have a question about the MD "package":

If I want to use MD for charting and as order-frontend will I need to order (and pay) MD Chart and use MD Trader by the broker and pay the additional fee (USD 0,1 per contract and side)?

 
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Hi,

I installed MDTrader on 64-bit PC and all seemed OK, but I can't create ATOM orders, when I press ATOM - nothing happens (no window appears for order setup).
Is it something that can be rectified or 64-bit are not supported?

I don't think the problem has to do with 64-bit. Please click our live Support Chat available from the MarketDelta homepage and an support tech can take a look.

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I have a question about the MD "package":

If I want to use MD for charting and as order-frontend will I need to order (and pay) MD Chart and use MD Trader by the broker and pay the additional fee (USD 0,1 per contract and side)?

Yes, that is correct. Please note, some brokers include the 0,1 into the commission. Also, the 0,1 includes all the TT fees which normally are not included. This gives a static price ladder, single click order entry, an lots of other nice trading conveniences.

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All right, these are mainly the costs for TT, I have overlooked that MD Trader has a static DOM.

 
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HI

These days lots of Indian retail investors trying to have their trade from MD.And they are trying have an edge in their trading.I am asking a few questions :

1. Are you planing for any expansion of MD with Indian Brokers ( eg. Zerodha,Compositedge etc.) ?



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Hello,
To expand to other brokers it is first a requirement that the broker supports one of the order routing systems MarketDelta uses. Currently these are CQG, Rithmic, and OEC. If the broker uses any of these then please instruct them to contact us and we can provide them further instructions for offering MarketDelta. Thanks for your interest!

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1. Are you planing for any expansion of MD with Indian Brokers ( eg. Zerodha,Compositedge etc.) ?


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my office partner is not a bigmike member and asked me to post this for him.
he's trying out Market Delta Trader DOM using OEC data from Daniel's and the ATOM strategies are not working correctly.
the developers had an update today to fix it but the problem remains. he sent a screenshot to your support guy Ryan showing how itís malfunctioning.
ticket #46734.
any help would be appreciated.

 
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Hello, we are researching the issue that was reported today but it is a totally separate issue than the one we fixed earlier today. We currently believe it has to do with the demo environment and that it is not present in the live environment. We also were testing the issue against other order routing systems like CQG and were not able to replicate, therefore pointing more towards the demo environment.



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my office partner is not a bigmike member and asked me to post this for him.
he's trying out Market Delta Trader DOM using OEC data from Daniel's and the ATOM strategies are not working correctly.
the developers had an update today to fix it but the problem remains. he sent a screenshot to your support guy Ryan showing how itís malfunctioning.
ticket #46734.
any help would be appreciated.


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Hi,

I was initially sceptical about MD, I've taken a trial of it and found that whilst it wasn't great on a free trial on account I couldn't back populate charts in free. Certainly the premise of the product wasn't lost on me and functionality is clearly premium level. I've a couple of questions regarding the tools if you don't mind @MarketDelta

1. Having used NinjaTrader7 I'm looking to use limit-stop orders and other order types beyond vanilla limit/stop/market entries in MD, is this an enhancement to MD that you will look at?

2. I also would like a broader functionality in MD trader to allow for a increased functionality in ATOM, e.g., to allow fully customisable OCO to setup complex trade set ups, as is currently possible within NinjaTrader7. For example, a bracket order with a buy on one side of the market and sell on the other, where oco. And then each side having set stops and take profits.

3. I do like the footprint on the MD trader DOM, but would really like to set longer periods of accumulation in the periodicity of the footprint, e.g., the session or the day's values beside the price levels. Or otherwise a volume profile on the DOM with initial balance/high/low etc, is that something that we could get in future?

Thanks,

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so have you guys given up trying to fix this problem?
here's last reply from your support.

"As far as the research has concluded regarding the improper grouping of orders once a ATOM Bracket is submitted to the market is caused by something in the OEC Demo Environment. We have tested MarketDelta Trader with the CQG Order Routing System and do not see the same issue. We have also noticed through testing on OEC Demo that the issue does not occur every single time the bracket is submitted to the market. In addition this is not an issue we have heard from Live Traders using OEC, CQG or Rithmic. Often the Demo environments are not equipped to handle certain types of strategies, specifically larger ones such as a 5 Leg order.

so it appears that OEC data will not allow someone to test MD Trader? the only alternative is to try it out with live data? that's not the best way to test your DOM.

 
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Trevor - does market delta accept enhancement requests for the Market Profile? There's a few things that would improve it I think. Thanks

 
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Trevor,

Rithmic as source for historical backfill replacing DTMA requirement.
When will this be implemented for general release?
I know your developing company researches this.

So I do not ask about Rithmic as source for MarketDelta trader in order to place trades. That is already possible.

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Hi there,
Have been getting more and more bewildered by what to do with Market Delta.
Looking to trade through Amp futures which supplies CQG data but I'm not sure if that data feed is good enough for footprint charts-can you provide any feedback/help on that? Will be looking at precise bid/ask volume inside the bars and the usual cumulative delta stuff. Is CQG packaged data in a similar manner to IB data, and what, if any differences are there between the data that is received from DTN/Iq feed (MD's preferred data provider) and CQG?

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Hi there,
Have been getting more and more bewildered by what to do with Market Delta.
Looking to trade through Amp futures which supplies CQG data but I'm not sure if that data feed is good enough for footprint charts-can you provide any feedback/help on that? Will be looking at precise bid/ask volume inside the bars and the usual cumulative delta stuff. Is CQG packaged data in a similar manner to IB data, and what, if any differences are there between the data that is received from DTN/Iq feed (MD's preferred data provider) and CQG?

Thanks,
Bootsy

Hi Bootsy,
CQG data is not packaged like IB, so you don't need to worry about sub-par data. The CQG data is very good and creates a very good Footprint chart in MarketDelta.

IQFeed is an excellent data source to power MD Charts as well. There are pro and cons to both CQG and IQFeed and they are detailed in our knowledge base. Feel free to give us a call at 1.312.922.7800 and we will gladly answer any further questions and suggest the best configuration based on your needs.

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Thanks very much for the quick and detailed reply, will do some research in the knowledge base and then call if I can't figure anything out.
Regards,
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Hi there,
I have a footprint chart set up with a PNF 7 tick reversal candlestick set up.
The Footprint Diplay Option is selected as 'Footprint Profile'.
But I am confused about the Footprint Data section.
This is selected to 'Volume at Price' to show a Profile for each individual bar, and the 'Breakdown by' section is set to Ask Vs Bid delta (see pic attached.

Here's my problem. The Footprint Display says Footprint Profile.
But the Footprint Data that is received can only be set to break down this data by the Delta readings. Is this correct?
The way I perceive it, I can never get to see the total volume flowing into the market with these charts (even if Total Volume is selected in the Footprint Profile section) because the Footprint data section can only ever calculate/display the delta.

is this correct or have I got this totally wrong?


 
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Hi guys,

Trevor from @MarketDelta will present a Live Market Demo of the MarketDelta Cloud Trading Platform on Tuesday, April 19th @ 10:00 AM Eastern US.

Please note the special event time of 10:00 AM Eastern US.

The title of this webinar is "What Live Trading on a Cloud Platform Looks Like", and will cover:

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Hi - I cant seem to find last traded vol or cumulative vol at bid or ask in the dom. does it not exist in MD Cloud?
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No, this doesn't currently exist on the MD Cloud DOM but does in MD Desktop. We'll add it to the list of improvements for MD Cloud.


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Hi - I cant seem to find last traded vol or cumulative vol at bid or ask in the dom. does it not exist in MD Cloud?
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This thread is now closed. These days, we reserve AMA threads only for site sponsors.

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