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Hello again,

Sorry, forgot to ask if anyone here has used the Infinity AT platform recently? I've heard some good things about the actual platform but apparently Infinity brokers are a little expensive when it comes to commissions and stuff.

You DO NOT get a charting package with Infinity but you can feed the data into MarketDelta which can be a good thing given MD's extensive work on Market Profile.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

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I have been using Inifinity AT for over two years and love it. The Depth-of-Market is the most simple and effective to use compare to a few platforms that I had used (Trade Station, Trade Navigator, Thinkorswim). I only trade TF (emini Russell), and I am satisfied some minimal slipage on order executation if any (most of the time is 1 tick but can be as high as 3 ticks). I don't trade around major news annoucement, so I don't know what the slipage would be.

The downside is that you have to pay monthly fees for a charting package. I tested Serria (sp) charting package and hated it. It used different data server, so the price on chart "often" different than Inifinity AT platform. Currently I'm using NinjaTrader from AMP futures for charting and very happy with it.

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I'm using Infinity also with Ninja charts (wih zen-fire) which I find very good.
Used SIERRA CHARTS for a while, but it was very complicated and there was no synchro between those two.

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I have been using Inifinity AT for over two years and love it. The Depth-of-Market is the most simple and effective to use compare to a few platforms that I had used (Trade Station, Trade Navigator, Thinkorswim). I only trade TF (emini Russell), and I am satisfied some minimal slipage on order executation if any (most of the time is 1 tick but can be as high as 3 ticks). I don't trade around major news annoucement, so I don't know what the slipage would be.

The downside is that you have to pay monthly fees for a charting package. I tested Serria (sp) charting package and hated it. It used different data server, so the price on chart "often" different than Inifinity AT platform. Currently I'm using NinjaTrader from AMP futures for charting and very happy with it.

Good luck

hcgaloi and Palaio,

I'm just informed today, that InfinityAT and SierraChart has the same data-feed (TransAct). This means that the market price on InfinityAT and SierraChart is the same. Can you re-confirm this with Infinityfutures ? Meanwhile, what's your experience with using InfinityAT with Ninja/AmpFutures/Zen-Fire ? What do you pay as charge/fee/subscription for Ninja/AmpFutures/Zen-Fire service ?

I'm in the process of opening a LIVE account with Infinityfutures, I shall therefore appreciate your advise in this regard.

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I trade with infinity. Great customer support, very stable, fast data and fills (well at least compared with my old broker Tradestation). The "platform" is bare bones but does everything you would want it to do and nothing more. Commissions are a bit higher than some other people i've heard but then again i'm a small 1 lot trader with them so I can't complain too much. (I'm paying 5.45/rt on the 6E/B/C, etc.) They will knock .10/rt off your commissions for every person you refer to them if that helps at all? All in all i'm very impressed with them and intend to keep my business with them.

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I trade with infinity. Great customer support, very stable, fast data and fills (well at least compared with my old broker Tradestation). The "platform" is bare bones but does everything you would want it to do and nothing more. Commissions are a bit higher than some other people i've heard but then again i'm a small 1 lot trader with them so I can't complain too much. (I'm paying 5.45/rt on the 6E/B/C, etc.) They will knock .10/rt off your commissions for every person you refer to them if that helps at all? All in all i'm very impressed with them and intend to keep my business with them.

daedalus,

I'm currently on SIM with the InfinityAT version 4.5.1. Infinity also just got Sierra for me for charting, and I'm enjoying them both. However, I may opt for Ninja/Zen-Fire for charting if I'm eventually not comfortable with Sierra. The market price on InfinityAT, Sierra and Ninja/Zen-Fire are neatly the same today (my first day on this combination). What is your experience in this regard ?

What do you use for charting (SierraChart/TransAct, Ninja/Zen-Fire, etc).

If you don't use Sierra, how much do you pay for the alternative charting software you use.

Does the $5.45/rt on 6E include exchange fee, etc ?

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daedalus,

I'm currently on SIM with the InfinityAT version 4.5.1. Infinity also just got Sierra for me for charting, and I'm enjoying them both. However, I may opt for Ninja/Zen-Fire for charting if I'm eventually not comfortable with Sierra. The market price on InfinityAT, Sierra and Ninja/Zen-Fire are neatly the same today (my first day on this combination). What is your experience in this regard ?

What do you use for charting (SierraChart/TransAct, Ninja/Zen-Fire, etc).

If you don't use Sierra, how much do you pay for the alternative charting software you use.

Does the $5.45/rt on 6E include exchange fee, etc ?

Lolu

I use OEC Trader for my charting (its free if you have an account with them and you can open up a 250.00 forex account with them and have free data and charting for life). Price always seems to line up nicely with OEC charting - I can't compare to a ZenFire feed personally because I don't use Ninja.

Nice thing about the OEC is you can use it to power other platforms like Multicharts or Tradestation if you use Owndata.

The 5.45 includes everything - exchange fees as well.

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 lolu 
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I use OEC Trader for my charting (its free if you have an account with them and you can open up a 250.00 forex account with them and have free data and charting for life). Price always seems to line up nicely with OEC charting - I can't compare to a ZenFire feed personally because I don't use Ninja.

Nice thing about the OEC is you can use it to power other platforms like Multicharts or Tradestation if you use Owndata.

The 5.45 includes everything - exchange fees as well.

Cheers!

So, you use the OEC to trade 6E. Right ?

Is there a URL to opening the $250 FX account ? If you know the link can you post it; or I just need to go to their website ?

Lolu

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Hi,
I found the infinity customer service appalling for international clients. I have asked for commission structures on currency futures during an online chat and the response back was "yeah" and they hung up. I would hate to know what the response was if you had problems with your account. As a result of this experience I have moved to a zenfire broker, which in my opinion is alot better than infinityAT platform.
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Hi,
I found the infinity customer service appalling for international clients. I have asked for commission structures on currency futures during an online chat and the response back was "yeah" and they hung up. I would hate to know what the response was if you had problems with your account. As a result of this experience I have moved to a zenfire broker, which in my opinion is alot better than infinityAT platform.
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traderandreas,

I have an exceptionally good communication by phone from/with Markus for the past one and a half weeks. Markus had called me twice. And e-mails ? Numerous, between me, Markus and another guy, apart from their support team, and they attended to me on their commission structures and other issues specific to my requirements. I didn't use their online chat. And I don't reside in USA.

traderadreas, this is completely opposite of what you are experiencing. But for the fact that you have already made your choice, it would have been desirable that you contact them by e-mail.

InfinityAT concept is completely different from NT's. It is a kinda bare-bone platform designed purely for fast order fills/execution, with no charting tools. I wish I'll one day know how to trade WITHOUT chart.

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https://gainfutures.com/openaccount/apply.cfm

Just select Forex only and the account min. is 250.00 but you'll get futures (and forex) data with their platform.

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https://gainfutures.com/openaccount/apply.cfm

Just select Forex only and the account min. is 250.00 but you'll get futures (and forex) data with their platform.

Is this a LIVE account opening process ? And what is the mode of payment ? VISA/MASTER CARD ?

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Yes, thats for opening a live account. You can sign up for a two week demo as well - there is a link on their main page.

You can pay via credit card if you want - thats how I funded my account.

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Hello again,

Sorry, forgot to ask if anyone here has used the Infinity AT platform recently? I've heard some good things about the actual platform but apparently Infinity brokers are a little expensive when it comes to commissions and stuff.

You DO NOT get a charting package with Infinity but you can feed the data into MarketDelta which can be a good thing given MD's extensive work on Market Profile.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Stay Sharp

tom,

I'm on SIM (demo) mode with InfinityAT and I'm interested in the aspect of feeding InfinityAT data into MarketDelta. How is this done ? Do you do this ? Please, can you share your experience in this regard ?

Lolu

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I use infinity as my broker and do use the at platform. To me their prices are reasonable. You are right you dont get any charting with the trade execution platform but it is a good dome for having some simplistic strategies. Also placing orders is really easy too.

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^^^ And its nice being able to put bracket orders into the market and not have to pay 50.00/mo ala Ninja.

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^^^ And its nice being able to put bracket orders into the market and not have to pay 50.00/mo ala Ninja.

daedalus,

I'm interested in the aspect of feeding InfinityAT data into MarketDelta as mentioned above by tom_c, in post #1. How is this done ? Do you do this ? Please, can you and vinceb share your experience in this regard ?

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I personally don't use marketdelta and have no idea how to do it. Sorry i'm not more help.

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I'm using Infinity also with Ninja charts (wih zen-fire) which I find very good.
Used SIERRA CHARTS for a while, but it was very complicated and there was no synchro between those two.

Hope this helps

Palaio,

Please, how did you get the Ninja/Zen-Fire ? Did you have to open a LIVE account with a Ninja broker to enable you have live real-time data-feed from Zen-Fire ?

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tom,

I'm on SIM (demo) mode with InfinityAT and I'm interested in the aspect of feeding InfinityAT data into MarketDelta. How is this done ? Do you do this ? Please, can you share your experience in this regard ?

Lolu

Hi Lolu,

I know is late but...In order to feeding TransAct Data (the data Infinity works with) into Market Delta follow the next steps:

1- clik "File" (left top)
2- clik "Configure DataSource/Brokerage"
3- on the window select, for Tab "Market Data Source", TransAct/Infinity.
4- finally you must enter your password and username.

I hope it can help you

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I have had a TA/Infinity futures account, have currently a zen/Mirus futures account, I have used ninja and Sierra Charts for quite a while.

For charting, imo Sierra Charts is still the best. It feels light, moves fast and still builds charts quickly. I also appreciate the way data is stored for each individual symbol. You can have a buddy email you historical data by just copying the symbol from the root directory if you want.

Infinity is a bit more pricey than my Mirus account for each trade.

For trading, Infinity's DOM works well. It's fast and I've never seen it pause or lag. When I trade my Mirus account through ninja, every once and a while I'll have a hicuup. I think the data from zen to feed ninja is not very good by comparison to the data I would get through TA, so it's a toss up.

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Does anyone have a copy of InfinityAT OST version 5.1 I upgraded to 5.2 and find that it has some issues. I want to go back to 5.1. Transact support has tried but not been successful yet at either fixing my problem or getting me the older version

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I was just wondering if any of you could comment on your experiences using infinity AT to power either Market Delta or IRT. I currently have IRT with DTNIQ and trade through Tradestation. I have used Infinity in the past and I really like their DOM. I would also like to drop some of the redundant fees I have. Thanks for the information.

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Infinity looks good, but there maybe some troubles with trading, if you are using dynamic IP - I came across it. You should better to discuss this question with Infinity support

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Hello traders,
Im planning to open an account with this broker and i want to ask if any one have or had experience with Infinity broker and how it was?
I appreciate any kind of feedback and advices.
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Hello traders,
Im planning to open an account with this broker and i want to ask if any one have or had experience with Infinity broker and how it was?
I appreciate any kind of feedback and advices.
Thanks in advance
Regards

I have an account with them and like them. Patrick Zielbauer is my broker. Always answers emails and inquiries promptly. Love the DOM. Simple. You get free charting with Sierra Charts if you do 10 trades a month. I have no complaints at all.

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I have an account with them and like them. Patrick Zielbauer is my broker. Always answers emails and inquiries promptly. Love the DOM. Simple. You get free charting with Sierra Charts if you do 10 trades a month. I have no complaints at all.

Thanks for your answer.Can you please give the commission rate you pay for the NQ,TF and CL if you trade them ofc?
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Best broker ever
Excellent custommer support by Patrick Zielbauer, stable infinityAT+sierra and instant fills, e-minis 4,80 RT

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I just signed up with InfinityAT futures, mostly due to their overnight margins. They consider a "day" from 5p-315p the next day, and give you day trading margins during that time. Also, their overall margins are fantastic for the Eminis and crude, compared to TradeStation and interactive brokers. Also, Patrick is very responsive.

However, a big, big negative which no one in this thread has mentioned yet is that they do NOT keep OCO orders on their servers. So the InfinityAT platform has to be up for the OCO orders to execute properly. Also, any fills that occur while the platform is off do not execute the attached OCO orders. This is huge !! If you're in a trade and computer crashes, you have no protection.

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I have an account with them and like them. Patrick Zielbauer is my broker. Always answers emails and inquiries promptly. Love the DOM. Simple. You get free charting with Sierra Charts if you do 10 trades a month. I have no complaints at all.


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Best broker ever
Excellent custommer support by Patrick Zielbauer, stable infinityAT+sierra and instant fills, e-minis 4,80 RT


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I just signed up with InfinityAT futures, mostly due to their overnight margins. They consider a "day" from 5p-315p the next day, and give you day trading margins during that time. Also, their overall margins are fantastic for the Eminis and crude, compared to TradeStation and interactive brokers. Also, Patrick is very responsive.

Can anyone comment if there are any additional data fees along with the free InfinityAT charting (SierraChart white label). I assumed that when you have a live account that you automatically get whatever symbols are enabled in your trading account streamed to charting platform free.

But after reading SierraChart's Integration with Trading Services sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/SierraChartRealTimeFuturesStockDataFeed.php#IntegrationWithTradingServices ,
I'm not clear if there are any other fees required. It looks like CME and other exchanges still get you for a few bucks, and it requires logging in to live acct once per month to qualify for the lower fee.
sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/SierraChartRealTimeFuturesStockDataFeed.php#ConnectingOnlyOnceAMonthToTradingAccount

But what if you only want delayed data?? Does SC store that and make it downloadable for free?

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However, a big, big negative which no one in this thread has mentioned yet is that they do NOT keep OCO orders on their servers. So the InfinityAT platform has to be up for the OCO orders to execute properly. Also, any fills that occur while the platform is off do not execute the attached OCO orders. This is huge !! If you're in a trade and computer crashes, you have no protection.

I come from autotrading, so I am very familiar with the importance of having always-on environment to trade (VPS/dedicated server). But I understand that people who trade manually also trade via VPS for this exact reason. Especially if you are trading other people's money.

Speaking of autotrading, does anyone implement it with InfinityAT (sc) platform?

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