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 myrrdin 
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Afternoon Myrrdin,

wonder what your thoughts on selling calls in SOYBEANS ? Looks like the report that came out on thursday caused a large spike on soybeans, however looks like the US market will be posting the largest ever production/harvest.

thanks

VJ

In my opinion, there are currently major risks in selling calls on soybeans:

We enter a weather market in spring. In case all corn can be planted as scheduled, the amount of beans planted will be less than if some corn is replaced by beans. In case there are weather problems during the planting time for beans, price will rise significantly.

Currently there is a lot of talk about the Chinese buying significantly less soybeans in the US than estimated for political reasons. Some of this is probably priced in. But they might be forced to buy in the US to feed their cattle and hogs - even more in case they want to avoid buying hogs in the US.

I prefer selling soybean calls in early summer when the weather reports for August are known.

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In my opinion, there are currently major risks in selling calls on soybeans:

We enter a weather market in spring. In case all corn can be planted as scheduled, the amount of beans planted will be less than if some corn is replaced by beans. In case there are weather problems during the planting time for beans, price will rise significantly.

Currently there is a lot of talk about the Chinese buying significantly less soybeans in the US than estimated for political reasons. Some of this is probably priced in. But they might be forced to buy in the US to feed their cattle and hogs - even more in case they want to avoid buying hogs in the US.

I prefer selling soybean calls in early summer when the weather reports for August are known.

Best regards, Myrrdin

What would COT tell you at this point? How would you analyze the current positioning of Producers VS Specs? Does it even matter?

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What would COT tell you at this point? How would you analyze the current positioning of Producers VS Specs? Does it even matter?

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COT data is bearish, but not extremely bearish.

In weather markets, in my opinion, it is of minor relevance. I remember a spring, when small specs were the only group significantly long in soybeans. In the following weather market they made a lot of money.

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-29/as-u-s-soy-and-corn-areas-shrink-other-crops-are-expanding

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My favorite positions in the grains & beans currently are:

Short CZ P4 (short-dated contract, expiring in June)
Supply & Demand (S&P) bearish according to recent USDA Report

Short KWN P5
KWN-WN
Dryness; larger wheat acreage according to USDA Report mainly for Minneapolis Wheat

CZ-SX
Acreage might move from corn and Minneapolis Wheat to beans; uncertainty regaring safrina corn; very bullish USDA Report

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The volatility caused by Trump is stressful but welcoming at the same time

I currently have /GCZ18 various puts/calls (1150-1160-1170 puts/1600 and 1700 calls) and probably will add more.

thanks

VJ

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The volatility caused by Trump is stressful but welcoming at the same time

I currently have /GCZ18 various puts/calls (1150-1160-1170 puts/1600 and 1700 calls) and probably will add more.

thanks

VJ

I assume that the price of metals will rise for the next couple of months because of growing inflation.

After studying the COT data, I decided to buy Silver futures. Their COT data is much more bullish than COT data for Gold.

I also had held short Gold puts, but bought them back at 50 %.

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Will have to keep an eye on the ags, given their move. I think I got in to early.

Currently have /ZSX8 1300 and 1320 and /ZWZ8 650

May sell more calls in the coming months as looking at the 30 year seasonals, looks like beans go up during spring time but start to fall off more in the fall. Of course the China play anything can happen but I doubt the soybean sanctions will go thru and they will continue to buy from the US

Wheat should start dropping off during late summer into fall, so maybe good to pick up more calls on any surge

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VJ

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Will have to keep an eye on the ags, given their move. I think I got in to early.

Currently have /ZSX8 1300 and 1320 and /ZWZ8 650

May sell more calls in the coming months as looking at the 30 year seasonals, looks like beans go up during spring time but start to fall off more in the fall. Of course the China play anything can happen but I doubt the soybean sanctions will go thru and they will continue to buy from the US

Wheat should start dropping off during late summer into fall, so maybe good to pick up more calls on any surge

thanks

VJ

As I wrote a few posts below I do not think it is a good idea to sell soybean calls at this time of the year. In some years you make money, in other years you loose money. But when selling options, the losses are bigger than the profits ...

Seasonals are an average chart, including all years. To trade these charts successfully needs some more considerations than just to look at the chart. You find detailed information on this topic in this thread and in the thread "Seasonal Trades" (Commodities section).

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Anyone selling Gold Calls?
COT seems to be bearish.
Was thinking of selling C1500 AUG contract.

Thoughts?
Babak

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