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How much can I earn with Options?

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If you've got a ton of money and can hire a bunch of sophisticated traders, you can earn a lot. If you're bootstrapping with some play money.... well, it'll take a while and I don't think you'll get the crazy 200%++ gains you see people throw around on the internet all the time.

Or lose a lot even with a bunch of "sophisticated traders"

Volatility is good for the market and trading.

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I would rephrase this question to:

"How much time and effort will it most likely take before I can break even trading options?"

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I would rephrase this question to:

"How much time and effort will it most likely take before I can break even trading options?"

Not very hard at all in this market. Less is more with options. I avg about 5 option trades a month.

These guys trading commodity options and of course Ron's losing strategy I would not recommend starting out. With commodities there are external factors that can really influence the price.

Try trading SPY options first to get feel of the market.

Volatility is good for the market and trading.

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............and of course Ron's losing strategy I would not recommend starting out.........


Losing strategy? I happen to trade the original Delta 3 Naked version (alas with 6xIM) since 2015 (including 08/2015) without problems.

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Not very hard to make boatloads of money selling UVXY calls in this market either.

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How much can I earn with Options?

You can find your answer in this article.
https://steadyoptions.com/articles/how-much-can-i-earn-with-options-r233/

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Losing strategy? I happen to trade the original Delta 3 Naked version (alas with 6xIM) since 2015 (including 08/2015) without problems.

Hmmm, Sorry don't believe it, 6xIM would have been crushed too by VIX spike over 50. Did you roll down? or have more funds for margin? Naked with only 6xIM would have been disastrous.

Go back and read his thread, I had to roll down two or three times with over 20xIM. 6xIM naked would have been crushed.
It is losing strategy examples Ron, Karen SuperTrader

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Most want to avoid any type of real answer, because in fact your question is not properly phrased. 'Money' is always the wrong way to ask any trading question.

In terms of rates of return, 30-70% a year for a conservative non-directional options strategy is quite the norm.

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Most want to avoid any type of real answer, because in fact your question is not properly phrased. 'Money' is always the wrong way to ask any trading question.

In terms of rates of return, 30-70% a year for a conservative non-directional options strategy is quite the norm.

I agree with stophunter. The only thing that would add is those numbers 30 to 70 percent will work for a directional options trader also.

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Always remember:

You will compete against the best professional traders, having large experience and best possible education. They have all fundamental knowlegde available almost in real time, and can use the best computers.

Imagine any other profession you have not studied. Perhaps Medical Doctor or Rocket Scientist or Chemical Researcher. Would you feel to be ready to compete against the best of them in their field of expertise ?

I am always surprized how many people think they can make a lot of money in trading without being at the level of their competition.

Best regards, Myrrdin

I had to give my opinion on this advice. YOU ARE ONLY COMPETING WITH YOURSELF! The above statement assumes that these "professional traders" are better than you and on the other side of all of your trades. That sounds like paranoia to me. They may be good traders ....... but who says your strategy isn't the same as theirs? If you approach your trades thinking you are always opposite of a better trader you are bound to lose. YOU ARE TRADING AGAINST THE MARKET! And the market is the collective opinion of everyone. Remember the crowd is wrong most of the time and try to think like a contrarian. And always remember you are just as human as the "crowd". I believe the only "competition" you have is yourself.

All that said, time and study are requirements for success in this game. And I'm thinking of starting motivational training ....... anyone interested?

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