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Selling Options on Futures?

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 ron99 
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Ignoring Risk?

Risk coverage is assumed but maybe I should have not assumed everyone thinks that way.

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No it isn't. The most important thing is getting the lowest margin. That will affect your ROI more than cost.

Highest ROI is the goal. A higher amount of money you have left after a trade is done is the goal.

Cost factors in, but not as much as margin.

As a newbie i've been reading around at many different sources to understanding the basics of option trading (before I go into more depth). A lot of material out there is just confusing, people over-complicating simple ideas (or not being able to portray ideas in a simplistic and logical form). But after just 40 minutes or so of the webinar video by Ron99, definitely made things easier for me to understand . Thank you for this. I like your straight to the point style, NO BS. Will you be doing more webinar's?

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As a newbie i've been reading around at many different sources to understanding the basics of option trading (before I go into more depth). A lot of material out there is just confusing, people over-complicating simple ideas (or not being able to portray ideas in a simplistic and logical form). But after just 40 minutes or so of the webinar video by Ron99, definitely made things easier for me to understand . Thank you for this. I like your straight to the point style, NO BS. Will you be doing more webinar's?

Probably not. You are the first to ask for another in years.

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Afternoon everyone,

Long time lurker, havent posted here in a very long time. Just now getting back into trading this year after a 2 year hiatus due to personal issues.

I know when this thread started it was selling options on all commodity futures but seems like its become more just /ES futures? Nothing wrong with that obviously, but just curious if others besides Myrrdin (appreciate the thread !!) are selling other commodity futures and if so which ones ?

In process of moving money over to decarleytrading and then plan on selling /ES, /KC, /GC or /Si and the grains.

thanks and hope everyone has a great trading year

Vijay

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 datahogg 
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Afternoon everyone,

Long time lurker, havent posted here in a very long time. Just now getting back into trading this year after a 2 year hiatus due to personal issues.

I know when this thread started it was selling options on all commodity futures but seems like its become more just /ES futures? Nothing wrong with that obviously, but just curious if others besides Myrrdin (appreciate the thread !!) are selling other commodity futures and if so which ones ?

In process of moving money over to decarleytrading and then plan on selling /ES, /KC, /GC or /Si and the grains.

thanks and hope everyone has a great trading year

Vijay

For diversity I trade ES , GC , Cl, ZB, and ZW ratio spreads.

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 Captain135 
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Afternoon everyone,

Long time lurker, havent posted here in a very long time. Just now getting back into trading this year after a 2 year hiatus due to personal issues.

I know when this thread started it was selling options on all commodity futures but seems like its become more just /ES futures? Nothing wrong with that obviously, but just curious if others besides Myrrdin (appreciate the thread !!) are selling other commodity futures and if so which ones ?

In process of moving money over to decarleytrading and then plan on selling /ES, /KC, /GC or /Si and the grains.

thanks and hope everyone has a great trading year

Vijay

I sell options on on /CL the most, followed by /ES, /ZS and /ZC. Occasionally I'll do /ZB, and I haven't yet felt comfortable with /GC or /NG or /ZW. I don't do anything in the smaller markets (copper, OJ etc) due to liquidity concerns.

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 ron99 
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vmaiya73 View Post
Afternoon everyone,

Long time lurker, havent posted here in a very long time. Just now getting back into trading this year after a 2 year hiatus due to personal issues.

I know when this thread started it was selling options on all commodity futures but seems like its become more just /ES futures? Nothing wrong with that obviously, but just curious if others besides Myrrdin (appreciate the thread !!) are selling other commodity futures and if so which ones ?

In process of moving money over to decarleytrading and then plan on selling /ES, /KC, /GC or /Si and the grains.

thanks and hope everyone has a great trading year

Vijay

I suggest that people use myrrdin's thread for discussing trading other commodities. No point in discussing same thing in two threads.

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After 4 trading days, the S&P 500 is up 2.6% YTD.

When the first 5 days are up >2%?

Since '50, S&P 500 is higher for the year 15 out of 15 times. Average return is +18.6%.



Of course past performance is not a guarantee of future results.

Interesting. Thanks @ron99.

Should point out that in 2 of the 15 years, the market did finish up for the year but lower than it was at the end of the first 5 days.

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vmaiya73 View Post
Afternoon everyone,

Long time lurker, havent posted here in a very long time. Just now getting back into trading this year after a 2 year hiatus due to personal issues.

I know when this thread started it was selling options on all commodity futures but seems like its become more just /ES futures? Nothing wrong with that obviously, but just curious if others besides Myrrdin (appreciate the thread !!) are selling other commodity futures and if so which ones ?

In process of moving money over to decarleytrading and then plan on selling /ES, /KC, /GC or /Si and the grains.

thanks and hope everyone has a great trading year

Vijay

Still a bit of a newbie. During 2017 traded NG (cautiously with success)/ZW/ZM/LC/LH, besides ES. Learnt much from Myrrdin and Ron99 and will continue to learn much going forward no doubt.

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 datahogg 
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Ron

I think you mentioned that you were going to do some traveling.
Have your trips been interesting and noteworthy?

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