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Selling Options on Futures?

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 ron99 
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Today Aug 16 I sold EW3x7p1960(2)p1710(3) for 2.95. IM is 426.

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I exited my ES put spread the right day but reentered the wrong day with today's large ES drop. But there is absolutely no way to predict these movements. Next time I might enter the right day.

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On seasonal charts which time frame is more reliable to factor into a trade - the 5 year or the 15 year chart?

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On seasonal charts which time frame is more reliable to factor into a trade - the 5 year or the 15 year chart?

Depends on commodity but I mostly look at 5 year. Seasonals that include the 2008 recession may be skewed.

If you use my Seasonal Charts https://public.tableau.com/profile/ron.h8870

you can choose up to 10 years and eliminate any outliers.

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I exited my ES put spread the right day but reentered the wrong day with today's large ES drop. But there is absolutely no way to predict these movements. Next time I might enter the right day.

100% agree with regard to the impossibility of movements prediction.
Wonder how much material is devoted to this pointless topic

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Ron--thanks for all these great posts.

I am new to this site---so not sure if this book has ever been discussed or offered as a resource---and there are over 600 pages in this thread--and have not read every one--so thought I would share name it to those who might be interested

Just in case it hasn't been shared.

"Trading Options to Win"
S.A. Johnston

Most of it involves sell strategies---includes a good discussion on risk management---basic standard deviation stuff--seasonal---and specific strategies. Its mostly options on futures--

I had the good fortune to speak with the author--years ago when it first came out---and we also exchanged notes after he issues an updated [slightly] revised version. He said that much of the content of the book was still valid--but that of course futures markets--and therefore their related options--had changed site a bot over the years.

He is currently writing the great american novel I believe--and I wish him the best of luck in that endeavor.

if anyone would like to discuss the book---please don't hesitate to drop me a note---Dylan

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Today Aug 16 I sold EW3x7p1960(2)p1710(3) for 2.95. IM is 426.

Frustrating when you sell a spread for 2.95 and the next day you could have sold it for 4.25.

In the past there have been times when I exited one day and reentered the next trading day. Yesterday after I exited, futures dropped so that looked yesterday like a good time to reenter.

It's surprising how much luck enters into trading profit.

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Frustrating when you sell a spread for 2.95 and the next day you could have sold it for 4.25.

In the past there have been times when I exited one day and reentered the next trading day. Yesterday after I exited, futures dropped so that looked yesterday like a good time to reenter.

It's surprising how much luck enters into trading profit.

But this unpredictability is exactly the reason why I like your concept of being invested all the time. We simply do not know what the index is doing in the next hour.

Best regards, Myrrdin

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I exited my ES put spread the right day but reentered the wrong day with today's large ES drop. But there is absolutely no way to predict these movements. Next time I might enter the right day.

HI Ron, are YOU selling at 243 ish now, or waiting till morning ?

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I exited my ES put spread the right day but reentered the wrong day with today's large ES drop. But there is absolutely no way to predict these movements. Next time I might enter the right day.

Sorry 2435 level

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