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Selling Options on Futures?

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 chubbly2 
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We do take Canadians now, but not for Options, only futures.
Maybe will find a home in the future for Options guys.

I see you wrote your residence in the USA, and if you have a social I think you can open an account and trade Options as well.

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I put USA as residence because I thought it was lame that I couldn't create an account unless I gave my location.

if anyone wants to know who the broker was send me a PM. I am not sure if they are a sponsor of the site

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95% of my trading is Options

I put USA as residence because I thought it was lame that I couldn't create an account unless I gave my location.



if anyone wants to know who the broker was send me a PM. I am not sure if they are a sponsor of the site



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Today: Sold April SPX Puts 1825/1775 spread for $11.10

@Big Mike works hard to keep FIO a clean honest and trustworthy place for us traders to exchange info ideas research trades etc etc. Please add your real general location to your profile it's not lame and it's a rule of FIO and not something to be afraid of. FIO is much different than other trading sites/blogs or whatever one would call those other places on the Internet those other types of traders frequent. Basically you stumbled upon the greatest traders site here at FIO glad you are here.

And IMHO you can feel free to voice your concerns on different trading related subjects when done properly without concern regarding sponsors. At least that is exactly how I feel and I'm confident FIO agrees.

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@Big Mike works hard to keep FIO a clean honest and trustworthy place for us traders to exchange info ideas research trades etc etc. Please add your real general location to your profile it's not lame and it's a rule of FIO and not something to be afraid of. FIO is much different than other trading sites/blogs or whatever one would call those other places on the Internet those other types of traders frequent. Basically you stumbled upon the greatest traders site here at FIO glad you are here.

And IMHO you can feel free to voice your concerns on different trading related subjects when done properly without concern regarding sponsors. At least that is exactly how I feel and I'm confident FIO agrees.

Ron


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Ron, if he wants to put that he is from the USA, Kazakhstan, or Mongolia that's his biz. If someone adds good content, asks the right questions and polite, why would any one care where he/she is from?

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Ron, if he wants to put that he is from the USA, Kazakhstan, or Mongolia that's his biz. If someone adds good content, asks the right questions and polite, why would any one care where he/she is from?

Matt Z
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Ask @Big Mike not me it his rules bro. But it speaks to honesty for starters not to mention truthfulness integrity and the cornerstone of courtesy/politeness is genuineness. Do we really want a site full of folks that can't even start with a single upright step and lie from the get go? Is that what you consider good content?

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Do we really want a site full of folks that can't even start with a single upright step and lie from the get go?

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"Lie" ?
No, we want a site full of people who go all drama on you and give you lectures when you had a reasonable approach and view. Have a good weekend, I am starting mine now.

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Hi,
To avoid from big crash in August 2015 and January 2016 (common indicator - traffic signs - like "Housing Starts", "Consumer Opinion Surveys" etc don`t help much) I`m trying to find some signal for ES, using options value and IM, but unfortunately unsuccessfully...

I assume that before any big move there must be some disproportion/divergence in options value or IM and therefore try to measure ES Call and Put at fixed strike distance from ES price (Call +200 and Put - 400 points). I summarize the data in Excel (please see an attachment) for December 2015, just before big drop, but can not see any interrelationships and draw any conclusion.

May be somebody have "eagle eye"?

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 datahogg 
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Hi,
To avoid from big crash in August 2015 and January 2016 (common indicator - traffic signs - like "Housing Starts", "Consumer Opinion Surveys" etc don`t help much) I`m trying to find some signal for ES, using options value and IM, but unfortunately unsuccessfully...

I assume that before any big move there must be some disproportion/divergence in options value or IM and therefore try to measure ES Call and Put at fixed strike distance from ES price (Call +200 and Put - 400 points). I summarize the data in Excel (please see an attachment) for December 2015, just before big drop, but can not see any interrelationships and draw any conclusion.

May be somebody have "eagle eye"?

If you can predict the big moves, you are ahead of almost everyone else..........

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May be somebody have "eagle eye"?

No, I do not. And I doubt anybody does.

In my opinion there are two essential parameters for successful ES put selling:

- The choice of the option or options (eg. delta, number, DTE, ...)

- The choice of the exit point (eg. 200 % or 300 % of original value, loss = percentage of account value ...)

You might add the entry point as an additional parameter, but I consider this one as less important and difficult to optimize.

It is the art of trading to optimize these parameters in a way to protect capital on the one hand and to make enough profit to be paid for the work on the other hand.

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If you can predict the big moves, you are ahead of almost everyone else..........

I`m not asking to help me to find the Holy grail. Not at all.
I just try to find some relationship between future move and options value/IM (if there persist any).

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