I agree about the puts myself. If I was to do this trade for real I would instead use the May 75 and June 78 puts. I even took a look at the May 70 and June 73 puts. The premium collected would be lower so will the margin and with the lower strikes I would be able to weather more of a sell off.
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Very interesting. What if you converted this trade to a calendar spread (same strike, different expiration)? Doing a May / June 70 put with May / June 120 Call would get you:
- Buy 10 May 70 puts @ 0.09 = -900
- Sell 10 June 70 puts @ 0.24 = 2400
- Buy 10 May 120 calls @ 0.03 = -300
- Sell 10 June 120 calls @ 0.08 = 800
Total premium received : $2000 with a $2630 margin (at IB)
Would using the same strikes reduce the risk compared to the reverse diagonal spread and lower your margin (and perhaps even get filled faster at regular strike prices)? Any pros or cons on this kind of trade?
I have toyed around with many different combinations as far as the strikes are concerned. Almost all of them gave me decent profit vs margin used. So it really is a matter of how much risk you want to take on.
Don't forget that Homerjay does not stay in the short options until expiration. He said he usually exits the shorts in 3-5 weeks or if he has collected 70% of the spread. If the trade is ridden to expiration, the trade becomes a strangle after the May options expire and margin will increase by 2x-3x maybe even more.
Here is another thing that I noticed, CL futures is down about $1.00 as I write this, the margin on the simulated spread did not increase by that much. In IB I am showing IM $7,566 and MM $6,053
Last edited by MJ888; February 25th, 2013 at 06:12 PM.
At IB, margin calculations change constantly whenever the markets are open. I noticed that margin does not change during the day and the true amount of margin required is not updated until around midnight at OX.