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per the optionsellers.com bust. Interesting and warning info on how overly risky on dangerous options plays was done:

https://earlyretirementnow.com/2018/12/18/the-optionsellers-debacle/


"Quite intriguingly, their strategy imploded over the span of just a few trading days."


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Old story by now, but the details on the size of positions was interesting.

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Funny that in the book they barely say anything about increases in margin, and how important that is. They advise to sell options with delta of 2 (very risky) yet ignore other greeks like they are not important. While its true that I have learned a lot from the book and from their blog, the book itself is like a huge sales pitch, giving readers an idea of something too good to be true.

I have realized that so so many things conveniently were left out of their "sales pitch" not long after I started trading real money, and Im so glad I did. Its so dangerous to advise selling options naked without telling readers/retail investors a full picture of how bad and how fast things can go.

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Looks like I am very late on this one but great topic and excellent info shared by many.

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Sometimes, like yesterday, I will use ratio spreads, in this case buying the 1520 call and selling 2 1580 calls on Sept.. gold options ( 19 days left) for debit ( I paid $450)

A quick update on the ratio spread I mentioned couple of weeks ago. Gold options expired with the 1520 in the money by about $28 and the two 1570 I sold to generate the cash to buy the 1520 expired worthless. It does not always work obviously but it is nice when it does work.

I have a good table that outlines the strategies and when to use etc. but it does not copy/paste well - feel free to PM me and I will send the link. It is on our site > futures trading education >options 101

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