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Selling Options on Futures?

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I have no idea if this will happen again but thought it was interesting.

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Any one in ES?
Any thoughts on getting in today?

Thanks Babak

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Any one in ES?
Any thoughts on getting in today?


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Forgot to post this yesterday.

Sold EW3n17p1930p1675(2) for 2.15 on March 20th.

Surprisingly it is about same price today to enter.

But remember I am not doing any timing of entry. I got out Friday morning and reentered Monday morning.

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Any one in ES?
Any thoughts on getting in today?

Thanks Babak

Yes, I am short ES puts naked (ESM P2050) as well as according to Ron's suggestion. As this is a full position I do not intend to add to it.

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Forgot to post this yesterday.

Sold EW3n17p1930p1675(2) for 2.15 on March 20th.

Surprisingly it is about same price today to enter.

But remember I am not doing any timing of entry. I got out Friday morning and reentered Monday morning.

Just to compare what was the IM?

THANKS

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Just to compare what was the IM?

THANKS

$294 using IM from March 17 SPAN

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Sold Sold Ew3n17p1950p1680(2) for 3.8 on March 23/2017.

IM displayed before confirming the trade $248.00. I confirmed and sent, IM displayed $444.00.

TOS claims they are working on correcting the problem.

Anyone else encounter this before?

What entity regulates these borkers?

Thought please?
Thanks Babak

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DTR Trading: 73 [AUTOLINK]DTE[/AUTOLINK] Iron Condor Results Summary
73 DTE Iron Condor Results Summary
This article reviews the backtest results for iron condors (IC) entered at 73 days to expiration (DTE). These tests covered 9 IC variations, with short strike deltas at four locations (8, 12, 16, 20), utilizing 12 exits. In all, there were 432 test runs (9 variations x 4 deltas x 12 exits). Each test run executed an average of 174 SPX IC trades between the January 2007 expiration and the September 2016 expiration. A total of 432 ten year backtests. I used weekly options for this testing, so there were more than 12 trades per year. In total, there were 75,096 total trades entered for the 73 DTE testing.

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DTR Trading: 73 [AUTOLINK]DTE[/AUTOLINK] Iron Condor Results Summary
73 DTE Iron Condor Results Summary
This article reviews the backtest results for iron condors (IC) entered at 73 days to expiration (DTE). These tests covered 9 IC variations, with short strike deltas at four locations (8, 12, 16, 20), utilizing 12 exits. In all, there were 432 test runs (9 variations x 4 deltas x 12 exits). Each test run executed an average of 174 SPX IC trades between the January 2007 expiration and the September 2016 expiration. A total of 432 ten year backtests. I used weekly options for this testing, so there were more than 12 trades per year. In total, there were 75,096 total trades entered for the 73 DTE testing.

Thanks very much. This is good info. A lot of reading that I need to do on his blog.

This was interesting that it matched what I am now using.

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The 50% profit taking level has the highest win rates

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As short strike deltas increase, trade duration increases
As profit taking level increases, trade duration increases
The 50% profit taking level should have you out of your trade between 21 and 42 days for a 73 DTE IC, depending on short strike delta


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