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Interesting thing.. 3rd day in a row the front (N) is down but the mid/back is up

Rolling long positions from front month to further out contracts? Last trade is 20 June for CLN4.

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Does anyone have experience selling options on ZB (30 year US Treasury bond futures)?
Any pitfalls to watch out for??

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Does anyone have experience selling options on ZB (30 year US Treasury bond futures)?
Any pitfalls to watch out for??

I've been trading it for a while, selling calls. ROI not always that great (average around 3%), but it is uncorrelated to other instruments, which is very nice. It can sometimes jump a bunch during announcements. Typically hard to get filled at yesterday's settlement price today - you usually have to give up some.

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I've been trading it for a while, selling calls. ROI not always that great (average around 3%), but it is uncorrelated to other instruments, which is very nice. It can sometimes jump a bunch during announcements. Typically hard to get filled at yesterday's settlement price today - you usually have to give up some.


It looks like volatility is skewed toward the calls. Calls sell for a better price than the puts?

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It looks like volatility is skewed toward the calls. Calls sell for a better price than the puts?

I've never even looked at Puts. Selling puts would mean you are betting that interest rates will not go up. I don't want to be on that side...

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It looks like volatility is skewed toward the calls. Calls sell for a better price than the puts?

When bond prices go down yields go up

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Excuse the tangent, talking price rather than vol/options etc

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Interesting thing.. 3rd day in a row the front (N) is down but the mid/back is up


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Rolling long positions from front month to further out contracts? Last trade is 20 June for CLN4.

Your right July expires tomorrow, and there is obviously rolling going on, but I suspect it's not just an expiry "thing" but also a fundamental "thing".

Consider the following charts.
  • June 11th was the close prior to the advance of the ISIS in Iraq.
  • On June 12th we see a strong $2 move in the front and a $1+ reaction across the crude curve.
  • But since June 12th the cumulative change in the front of curve has been nothing while 2015 has risen another $1-$1.50. (This is even better illustrated by the spread butterflies.)
These charts all use today's settlement. If you could have taken a snap shot today about 30 mins before expiry this would have been even more pronounced as N-Z rallied about 40c in the last 30 mins.

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I apologize this webinar did not occur yesterday as planned due an emergency in my household yesterday. I will reschedule and let everyone know.

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