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Old July 10th, 2013, 12:41 PM   #1781 (permalink)
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I'll agree that short term, 1-2 years, growth will be slow. But I expect that growth in demand will force companies to increase hours and pay more to employees which will accelerate growth rate and thus commodity prices.

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Old July 10th, 2013, 12:52 PM   #1782 (permalink)
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US oil production is up 1.2 mbd or 16.5% over last year.

OPEC is saying total world growth in demand of 0.8 mbd. So US growth easily covers world growth.

US oil demand is up 0.3 mpd or 1.6% over last year (4 week average).

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Old July 10th, 2013, 02:22 PM   #1783 (permalink)
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..and futures can remain range-bound for as long as they want to as far as I'm concerned. Sell calls at resistance and puts at support once established.

I've got AUG CL puts about to expire worthless, that's it. Watching CL, ES, and NG. Just don't like the grains right now. Want to sell calls on the ES but will wait on the fed minutes due out today. Earnings could increase volatility somewhat.

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Old July 10th, 2013, 04:02 PM   #1784 (permalink)
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Here is why coffee is where it is at.

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Total world coffee consumption is forecast to increase by less than 1.2 million bags next season to 141.87 million. This figure is still well below the world production number of 146.33 million although the gap between world production and consumption is going to narrow. This season, the spread was nearly ten million bags.

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Old July 10th, 2013, 06:02 PM   #1785 (permalink)
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Any thoughts on selling December Coffee Calls in the 270-300 range?

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Old July 10th, 2013, 06:11 PM   #1786 (permalink)
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Any thoughts on selling December Coffee Calls in the 270-300 range?

That far away from futures I would sell even if I was bullish.

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Old July 10th, 2013, 06:31 PM   #1787 (permalink)
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That far away from futures I would sell even if I was bullish.

What about coming in to the KCV32250C which is only 65 DTE and a much better ROI?

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Old July 10th, 2013, 06:42 PM   #1788 (permalink)
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Are there any bidders?

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Old July 11th, 2013, 06:47 AM   #1789 (permalink)
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can you please explain what the kcv32250c is? what strike price

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Old July 11th, 2013, 06:52 AM   #1790 (permalink)
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I am not really familiar with selling options on futures, as opposed to equities. Knowing that at ~60 days theta starts to really work in your favour, why sell options on futures +60 days till expiration? Are you essentially using the contango or backwardation in these futures to offset the slower decay in the longer dated options?

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