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Old April 18th, 2013, 06:48 PM   #1391 (permalink)
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Frankly IDK.

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Old April 18th, 2013, 08:42 PM   #1392 (permalink)
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Using DCOT futures only data this chart shows that speculators are the least long (total longs / total positions for 20 commodities) since early 2009. And that is even though they are the longest NG since 2006.

They have been getting ready for the drop, or causing it, for two months.

Good reason to be cautious with puts right now.

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Old April 20th, 2013, 03:55 AM   #1393 (permalink)
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OT I'm curious. What Hawaii time do you get up and start trading?

Up by 3am the latest, back to bed for a couple of hours when heading into mid-session then off to the office ; )

One good thing about the timezone here is being in front of the screen for a lot of nice after hours moves during asian/european sessions

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Old April 20th, 2013, 05:29 PM   #1394 (permalink)
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Anybody else use technical analysis? I notice a dead cat bounce brewing in gold. I'm wondering what other people think.

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Old April 21st, 2013, 10:05 AM   #1395 (permalink)
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Old April 21st, 2013, 10:12 AM   #1396 (permalink)
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Anybody else use technical analysis? I notice a dead cat bounce brewing in gold. I'm wondering what other people think.

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Yes....However, when selling 30, 40, etc. days out this is where the longer term (weekly) charts may be more useful to see that time-frame of a trend. I use the daily time frame to try to judge a timing signal. My definition of a timing signal is not to pick a top or bottom of a market but more of a pullback against the underlying trend where I 'think' there may be some profit taking occurring and option premiums per the direction of the trend can deflate quickly. If this area of price action lines up with seasonal trends...even better.

Do I sell puts in a downtrend and vice verse? Yes, but only when I see strength to the upside as described above. I may buy back the puts (for profit hopefully) and not hold them until expiration in the event that downtrend does continue...

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I think the recent violent movement in the metals and energies is a good thing as far as trading psychology is concerned. You have to remain humble as a trader. Losses in trading can be a good thing because they are a learning experience. Were you over-positioned? Did you enter a marker because you felt that you must be in a trade = no patience to let the market come to you? Under-capitalized? No exit plan?

Losses are part of trading and the markets always have the final answer.

I'm flat right the markets now and being gone for the week has caused my non-grass weed species trend to rise so I'm off to invest in some lawn mower futures for the next few hours....

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Old April 21st, 2013, 01:38 PM   #1399 (permalink)
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