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Yes, there is a proven solution, which has elevated the lot of mankind beyond the wildest imagination of our ancestors. It's called Free Enterprise.

There is also a proven failure, which has led to widespread misery every time it's been tried. It's called Socialism, and is what Micheal Moore and his ilk promote.


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Yes, there is a proven solution, which has elevated the lot of mankind beyond the wildest imagination of our ancestors. It's called Free Enterprise.

There is also a proven failure, which has led to widespread misery every time it's been tried. It's called Socialism, and is what Micheal Moore and his ilk promote.


fluxsmith's opinions are like his coding. Short, succinct and and directly to the point. Well said.

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I read carefully all the posts in this thread, many informations about what happened... does anybody have the proven solution to the problem or are we into rhetorical thoughts.

We are not in a problem. We live in a practical paradise but most the population is too stupid to realize it.
It is like people don't stop for one second and think how different their life would NOT be if $500k fell out of the sky.
Besides for the brand of car and sq ft of your home, everything else is basically the same.
If there is a problem at all I think it is some kind of weird sublimation in the form of "more money = more and better sex" in most people's head.
Even people on welfare can afford iphones, people's material discontent just does not add up to what we are able to purchase.
We are so well off as a society it morphs into this sexual kind of thing.
"Imagine the orgasm I would have if I just had a billion dollars".


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The best we can do is ....
1. Not do business with financial institutions . No borrowing on credit or investing or savings .
2. Not pay taxes .
3. Not support the government .
4. Save all our undeclared earnings in a shoebox buried in the ground or in a closet .

Then we dont have to be concerned with this mess . Thats what folks who work in my neighborhood do since they are here from other countries and as far as anyone is concerned they dont exist anyway . white collar crime is one of a myriad of bullshit we have to eat every day here in the US .

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Austerity now!

We can debate whether we are poor or not, but I think it's hard to argue against the fact that the GOVT is broke.


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Its quite a testament to free enterprise to be the all time leader in revenue for producing documentaries. Making films is a hard + risky business. Few last long in that kind of work. After 8 years in the biz as a lightning tech, I thought it would be good to try something easier.... like trading!?

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Imagine if you tomorrow took your trading business and budget/consequences be damned.... added a director of operations, then a trade safety board, then a trade resource management board, a credit administration, a bureau of profitability, etc. That's what we have done in this country. Some was done with noble intentions and some was done with evil intentions. But here we are.

Everyone talks of capitalism and free markets - we have not had those for a long time if ever. The big and powerful (from global corporations down to the big business in your town) petition big government to make regulations which exist as a barrier to competition to said corporations and enables them to only become bigger and repeat the process. The only solution is to dismantle the multi-headed hydra which is the Federal government (and many local versions). This would level the playing field and encourage competition. Government = force. It is the only institution which can fine, imprison, or kill you if you don't follow it's mandates. Walmart can't do that to you. The local gas station can't do that to you. Only with the force of government can these actions occur. People don't generally like this idea because we have morphed to a situation where the majority population is dependent on the Federal government in some way or another. This country was originally founded on natural law but we have strayed greatly.
Natural law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article below references the classic conservative vs liberal battle (which really is a divide and conquer strategy and should be ignored) but also tries to appeal to common sense/natural law. Natural law, business theory, money management - these items are not widely taught in government schools...shocking I know

https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=103sINU3R2LusKJrAr5NxPCkXIjSWnFXIqQl0xS6nEeY

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Just in case you haven't seen The Corporation... well worth the 2.5 hrs:

YouTube - The Corporation [Full Length]

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Slightly less serious.
This would be a good government purchase...see the last few seconds for the price



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