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A recent post about diets shows me that we've got some smart people here on the forum when it comes to their diet.

I need to lose some weight (hence "Big" in "Big Mike").

Like trading, I think a diet is all about accountability and responsibility. I wanted to ask you guys for some ideas though, on what you are doing to maintain a good diet as a trader.

I usually find myself in my office 8-12 hours a day. I don't eat in my office. I rarely even drink (ie: water) in my office. When I am in here, I am working. Emails, forum, trading, etc. So I don't have a problem of snacking while working.

What gets me is when I leave the office. I generally end up eating overly large meals since I am quite hungry after not eating for so long. I also have a bad habit/routine of eating these meals while watching TV, it's my "quiet time" or perhaps more accurate -- my time to relax and not think about work: emails, forum, trading. I usually watch one or two episodes of a favorite show (no commercials) during this period, so about 1h 30m. Then back to the office.

I've thought about making my own shakes and trying to use that say twice a day in my office so that when I leave to go relax I am not so starving and eat such a huge unhealthy meal.

What is interesting is back when I worked in the corporate world, I would often times stop for breakfast on the way in to work, then go out and eat lunch, and then nights when I was too tired (most days) I would stop and get something on the way home, too. Eating out three times a day! It's no wonder I gained weight.

Now though, for years I've been self employed. I have complete control over everything in my life that would influence any diet decisions. Yet I haven't lost weight. I have replaced fast food with simply eating more food. So I don't go out often, but the meals I eat at home are big and unhealthy. I also have added a new really bad habit, the midnight snack of some sweets like cookies or something similar, almost every night, before bed.

Anyway, just looking for a discussion on the diet part of diet & exercise from you guys as fellow traders

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You need a wife.

Just kidding.

I would start the day with a heavy healthy breakfast, fruits etc. You will see that you will eat less in your other meals.

Try to eat fruit during the day. Again, you will be less hungry at the end of your day.

Cut the midnight snacks. The cookies are a lot of extra calories that are not being worked off anymore and just stored as fat. Research has also shown that bad dreams come from eating just before going to sleep, so normally you should sleep better without food in your stomach. Freud was one of the first to show that people with heavy nightmares eat frequently heavy before going to sleep.

I don't eat junk food, I just eat a lot. I go on very good restaurants dining with friends too much during the week and weekends. But it's a cultural thing, in my country we go on a top Michelin restaurant from 7pm until 12pm, sometimes having 8 to 12 course meals, drinking 5 to 7 different wines, several glasses per sort of wine, you get the idea.

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I like to have a bowl of natural cereal before I leave the house in the morning. While in the office, my job is stationary, so I'm mostly sitting down all day until I get home, which is about 7:30pm. Lunch is late, about 2pm or so, and dinner is ready between 8 and 11pm, depending on what it is, if my wife has started cooking by the time I get home, or if I have to cook.

Also, one thing I do is exercise. Couldn't so much as last week due to the weather but this week is looking much more promising.

One thing you could do, Mike, is exercise. Take a walk around a park. Go for a run, even if it is just 100 yards. Catch your breath and run 100 yards again. Repeat. You could also do a bit of this after work to relieve some stress:

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Paleo... no grains. It works for me. My whole life I've always weighed more than I wanted (even when very active) mostly around the waist, not obese. My body fat was always between 20-25%. After just over a year eating this way, I'm 58 years old 6' tall and weigh 160 lbs and my body fat is 12%. I've got more energy than when I was 40.

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edit: Just wanted to add... I used to eat cereal for breakfast and was starving 2 hours later. Now I eat breakfast and could go until dinner at 7 pm and never notice any hunger.

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This is what worked (is working) for me..... after my cousin had a heart attack (at 44!) that put an almighty fear into me....so...last year I slowly (key is slowly!) changed my patterns....
  • Eat a lot more often, and smaller portions.
  • Eat when I am NOT hungry (body never gets to that craving level)
  • Stopped buying processed foods (this is a big one)
  • Stopped cooking foods (as raw as possible).
  • Consume more antioxidants, pro-biotics and omegas (for energy, immunity and natural fats)
  • Started consuming small amounts of butter (yes, that is correct...raw natural low sodium butter)
  • Aggressively reduce sodium from diet (this happens the moment we stop buying processed foods)
  • Eat more fruits.
  • More regular lean protein (either boiled and salted or grilled, or dry roasted)
  • Started exercising slowly and increased repetition and intensity over time (currently manage 1hr every alternate day)
  • Sleep a lot (over 9hrs day / at least 12hrs whenever I can manage...nowadays I can manage to squeeze in 12hrs sleep days at least twice a week). The theraputic value of sleep is underrated (people are always looking to cram more into their day or their life by doing more, not sure if that is a healthy way of living...what ever happened to minimalism and balance?)
  • Change attitude in life, become more detached. Less toys, less social involvement...generally less everything. This helps with mental focus and I am sure it helps in trading too.
  • Generally attempt to follow a reduced calorie diet
  • A substantial, healthy, breakfast is crucial (with full natural fat in it)
  • Stay away from hollow foods (no reduced calorie or skimmed stuff). I want the real deal (only in small portions).


The result...I used to be 200lbs last year, now I am about 28 - 32lbs lighter. As I increase the adherence to his lifestyle and refine both activities and diet I aim to lose another 15lbs to be slighty underweight.
My blood pressure has gone down, so has my resting pulse rate and cholesterol (not that any were a problem before but now they are ideal). BP is lower than normal (which is nice).

A lot of this is a little bit extreme and doesn't agree with everyone, but take your pick and run with it. Whatever floats your boat. I found what works for me (obvious trading analogy )

Nothing extreme, but a consistent approach, balanced approach with regular application. Just like my trading )

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looks like you are a perfect candidate to try out Jenny Craig meal plan.

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"Physiology and Psychology

I ensure that I do a walking exercise every morning hours of Saturday and whenever I attain my Daily Net Profit within one or two trades on week-days.

I’ll continue eating lots and lots of fruits and drink my daily water requirement. No alcohol (stopped alcohol six years ago); no smoking.

On Fridays, I’ll carry out a review of my current week trading activities and do some SIM-trading.

On Sundays, I’ll decree and command a spiritual touch with The Almighty, in his Sanctuary.
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The above is an extract from post #1 of my Trading Dairy thread.

I suspect that Mike knows my DOB, 'cos I always receive futures.io (formerly BMT) birthday greetings; so I suppose that he knows my age; but here where I live, I'm embarrassingly taken as about eighteen years younger. I played lots of soccer at high school, so I'm athletic.

My advices are;

1. Consistently and continuously exercise your body.

2. Eat lots of good fruits; avoid cholesterol and sugar. Eat only when you're hungry.

3. Say Noooooooooooo to alcohol and smoking.

4. Stay healthy spiritually by moving very close to the ALMIGHTY, the Provider (of good health and healing, prosperity, etc) the Protector, the Alpha & the Omega, the I am that I am.

And it must be WELL with you.

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Hey Mike I say get rid of the temptations,cookies and stuff you don't really wan't and Put like a fruit bowl in you office. I understand not wanting to eat a meal in there but a simple apple or banana will help keep your metabolism going and then make a point for you to get up from your desk and move about the house to throw away the peel or core. Last year I was doing similar things when I would take my kids to school in the a.m. On the way home I would stop at Mc D's and get the 1:00 soda, no food but that big drink was not good. It was an everyday thing until I started to realize after a doctors appointment the extra few pounds I had put on. I have changed some things in the last year eating wise, just like previous posts and it makes me have more energy and feel better. Good luck!

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I adhere religiously to a strict diet of Pop Tarts, Slim Jims and Coca-Cola.

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One of my long-time clients is Lindora. While they preach a low-carb, ketogenic diet, they also deal a lot with the psychological reasons we over-eat or eat poor food choices. Much like trading, there are many psychological stimuli in play that can imperil our waste line and threaten our health. Much like blowing out a trading account and "risk of ruin", they have metrics that determine "risk of death" based on age, BMI, diet, lifestyle and psychological responses to stress.

One thing that helps is to eat smaller meals but more often. This helps keep your metabolism up and is easier on the digestive system, keeping it busy digesting small meals instead of trying to digest a couple of whopping-huge meals all at once: it's a shock to the system. Nuts are a good snack because they are good at satiating hunger and making you feel full sooner. Also vegetables with low-cal cheese (laughing cow) are also good snacks. Drinking lots of water helps. Of course exercise is key too.

Keep a journal of what you eat (trade), why (entry) and how it made you feel (result) and you will start to notice patterns in your psychological motivations for poor eating choices (bad trades).

Eat better.
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I eat multiple small meals a day (some meals are really 'snacks' but i consider every time I eat a meal)...The keys that I have found helpful for myself are drinking a lot of water ((8+ 8oz a day or more)...no soda)....Eat some protein in the morning with whole grains...it will keep you much more full than sugars....if you can't get around to eating raw fruits, get some V8 Fusion (the fruit kind)...

I tracked what I ate for 2 weeks on www.myfitnesspal.com because I didn't really know how much I was eating....I was shocked at my portions.....so for me, eating small meals often helps keep me full and control my portions.....switch to very lean protein (I dont' eat much red meat...mostly chicken, turkey variations of things (bacon...sausage...lean turkey that looks like beef)...some fish)......often times I will make a large pot of soup on the weekend that will give me leftovers for the first few days of the week for lunches....adding some spice to it can help you forget that it's healthy....Last but not least, get some activity to help keep your metabolism firing....

I recently started p90x last week....it's the hardest thing I've ever done...but I can already tell my body is getting stronger....it's easy to follow, you can do it right from home, and takes 52-80 mins depending on the day (6 days a week)....i Highly reccomend it....only 83 days to go ;-)

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I eat multiple small meals a day (some meals are really 'snacks' but i consider every time I eat a meal)...The keys that I have found helpful for myself are drinking a lot of water ((8+ 8oz a day or more)...no soda)....Eat some protein in the morning with whole grains...it will keep you much more full than sugars....if you can't get around to eating raw fruits, get some V8 Fusion (the fruit kind)...

I tracked what I ate for 2 weeks on www.myfitnesspal.com because I didn't really know how much I was eating....I was shocked at my portions.....so for me, eating small meals often helps keep me full and control my portions.....switch to very lean protein (I dont' eat much red meat...mostly chicken, turkey variations of things (bacon...sausage...lean turkey that looks like beef)...some fish)......often times I will make a large pot of soup on the weekend that will give me leftovers for the first few days of the week for lunches....adding some spice to it can help you forget that it's healthy....Last but not least, get some activity to help keep your metabolism firing....

I recently started p90x last week....it's the hardest thing I've ever done...but I can already tell my body is getting stronger....it's easy to follow, you can do it right from home, and takes 52-80 mins depending on the day (6 days a week)....i Highly reccomend it....only 83 days to go ;-)

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This is a very important topic.

Aside from decreasing your risk of an early death, being healthy and fit increases your brainpower, which is a bonus for things like trading.
Fit Body, Fit Mind? Your Workout Makes You Smarter: Scientific American

Some important things I would like to add.

Stay hydrated - you should have a bottle of water close to you at all times, and drink from it regularly. Many people live their lives in a constant state of dehydration, which causes lethargy, loss of brain power etc.

Do drink water, and not juice, fizzy drink etc, as they contain lots of sugars/carbohydrates which are not good for controlling weight.

Do exercise. It cannot be stressed enough how important this is. Trying to lose weight and get healthy without exercise is more or less futile. In order to lose weight you must use more energy than you put into your body. So not only does the exercise use the food you put into your body as energy which allows you body to dip into it's fat reserves when it needs to, the exercise boosts all sorts of biological functions that make you healthier and smarter. When you build muscle it takes more energy to maintain the muscles, so doing weights workouts along with cardio is ideal.

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What is that?

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What is that?

A heart attack with a fork sticking out of it.

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A heart attack with a fork sticking out of it.

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Haha, looks intriguing, hard to tell what it is. Fat tails can perhaps shed some light.

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Haha, looks intriguing, hard to tell what it is. Fat tails can perhaps shed some light.

According to FT's description when he uploaded it, it's Currywurst.

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According to FT's description when he uploaded it, it's Currywurst.

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It is indeed Currywurst. It is the favorite fast food of the Berliner. The description "heart attack with a fork sticking out of it" is quite appropriate. Usually it is served with French Fries. I am having this a few times per year only. It was invented in the '50s and is a serious competition for McDonalds and Burger King.

https://www.currywurst-berlin.com/9501.html

I have posted this mainly as an antidote to a healthy diet. Just in case that you can't stand all the minerals and vitamins of your home-prepared dishes.

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It is indeed Currywurst. It is the favorite fast food of the Berliner. The description "heart attack with a fork sticking out of it" is quite appropriate. Usually it is served with French Fries. I am having this a few times per year only. It was invented in the '50s and is a serious competition for McDonalds and Burger King.

Berliner Currywurst

I have posted this mainly as an antidote to a healthy diet. Just in case that you can't stand all the minerals and vitamins of your home-prepared dishes.


Must check this out when I am in Berlin on holiday this june.

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lol - starting with a diet & healthy food -topic and ending with CurryWurst links & tips, where to get the hottest in town

too funny

BTW - only reducing food / calories is no real solution.
you gotta do more changes to get results like sports / training, changing some behaviors in your daily acting.
the combination brings you much better results and help you to keep them longterm.

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BTW - only reducing food / calories is no real solution.
you gotta do more changes to get results like sports / training, changing some behaviors in your daily acting.
the combination brings you much better results and help you to keep them longterm.

Couldn't agree more.

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A recent post about diets shows me that we've got some smart people here on the forum when it comes to their diet.

I need to lose some weight (hence "Big" in "Big Mike").

Like trading, I think a diet is all about accountability and responsibility. I wanted to ask you guys for some ideas though, on what you are doing to maintain a good diet as a trader.

I usually find myself in my office 8-12 hours a day. I don't eat in my office. I rarely even drink (ie: water) in my office. When I am in here, I am working. Emails, forum, trading, etc. So I don't have a problem of snacking while working.

What gets me is when I leave the office. I generally end up eating overly large meals since I am quite hungry after not eating for so long. I also have a bad habit/routine of eating these meals while watching TV, it's my "quiet time" or perhaps more accurate -- my time to relax and not think about work: emails, forum, trading. I usually watch one or two episodes of a favorite show (no commercials) during this period, so about 1h 30m. Then back to the office.

I've thought about making my own shakes and trying to use that say twice a day in my office so that when I leave to go relax I am not so starving and eat such a huge unhealthy meal.

What is interesting is back when I worked in the corporate world, I would often times stop for breakfast on the way in to work, then go out and eat lunch, and then nights when I was too tired (most days) I would stop and get something on the way home, too. Eating out three times a day! It's no wonder I gained weight.

Now though, for years I've been self employed. I have complete control over everything in my life that would influence any diet decisions. Yet I haven't lost weight. I have replaced fast food with simply eating more food. So I don't go out often, but the meals I eat at home are big and unhealthy. I also have added a new really bad habit, the midnight snack of some sweets like cookies or something similar, almost every night, before bed.

Anyway, just looking for a discussion on the diet part of diet & exercise from you guys as fellow traders

Mike

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What does it mean "I need to lose some weight" : Body Mass Index = weight/height[2]
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If eating is a pleasure, as prooven by the Roman Empire, than go for quality over quantity (also try not to eat alone)

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Must check this out when I am in Berlin on holiday this june.


Be careful, please.


Have encouraged some French friends of mine to try one of those... .

They felt insulted.

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Be careful, please.


Have encouraged some French friends of mine to try one of those... .

They felt insulted.

Hahaha.

I gotta say, it looks quite tasty. In a disturbing kind of way.

Being from Aussie (well originally New Zealand), we do not have much a history when it comes to cuisine. Not like the french... so I don't think I will feel insulted.

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When I go to the store I basically buy oatmeal, chicken breast, olive oil, rice, spinach, onions, bananas...soy sauce and sriracha when it runs out and that is it.
When I want something tasty I go out to a restaurant with a wait staff, never fast food.
I think in America we are not addicted to food as much as we are addicted to taste. If you eat bland foods for two weeks you start to care less and less about food and only eat when hungry.
You could just as easily lose weight eating 1800 calories of taco bell, pizza and chocolate as 1800 calories of the food above..the problem is you would never just be able to only eat 1800 calories of taco bell, pizza and chocolate through the day as far as average calories per day over a decent sample size.
Once a bowl of plain oatmeal with a splenda packet starts tasting ok, the weight will fall off.
The other really nice part is going out to eat then is an even more amazing experience taste wise.

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The best diet in the world :


IF IT TASTES GOOD SPIT IT OUT!

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The best diet in the world :


IF IT TASTES GOOD SPIT IT OUT!


Yeah, whatever you do:

If it is fun it is either illegal, immoral or fattening.

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Perhaps Big Mike should start a "Big Mike's Biggest Loser Contest" with weekly weigh ins?

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Lol, as usual there will be cheats

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Perhaps Big Mike should start a "Big Mike's Biggest Loser Contest" with weekly weigh ins?

Everybody with a weight over 190 pounds should be obliged to select a user name starting with "Fat", and have her/his body mass index regularly published on every Sunday in the newly created thread: Body Management for Traders.

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Everybody with a weight over 190 pounds should be obliged to select a user name starting with "Fat", and have her/his body mass index regularly published on every Sunday in the newly created thread: Body Management for Traders.

lol, Unless you're higher than 6,1

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Lol, as usual there will be cheats

Will I have to register as a Vendor? I am offering you all the ultimate weight loss program for the low low price of $99.00

I will have to create one of those 1 page websites with 10 years of backtesting, but I am sure it is no problem!

Rule #1
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Rule #2
Exercise or be active (Daily!)

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Will I have to register as a Vendor? I am offering you all the ultimate weight loss program for the low low price of $99.00

I will have to create one of those 1 page websites with 10 years of backtesting, but I am sure it is no problem!

Rule #1
Don't eat like a pig

Rule #2
Exercise or be active (Daily!)

Oh, Rule #3
Have good genetics

lol, can you make me a discount for Rule #3 sounds like backtesting on NT

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Will I have to register as a Vendor? I am offering you all the ultimate weight loss program for the low low price of $99.00

I will have to create one of those 1 page websites with 10 years of backtesting, but I am sure it is no problem!

Rule #1
Don't eat like a pig

Rule #2
Exercise or be active (Daily!)

Oh, Rule #3
Have good genetics

Rule #1 -> False, should read "Don't eat pigs".
Rule #2 -> Only partly true, exercise is not enough, it is more important to avoid physically inactive periods at any time of the day
Rule #3 -> that is what the Nazis tried, and I am not really a fan of their methods

Also the most important thing is not to waste the time, we've got here. Avoid quarreling, be in sync with your environment. I remember the 1st chapter of Malcolm Gladwell's book "Outliers", which tries to explain the good health of the inhabitants of a Pennsylvanian village called Roseto. See below

The New Englander: Malcolm Gladwell, Social Capital, the 'Roseto Effect,' and Lowell

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BMI is a poor measurement - it was created over a hundred years ago. Today, a number of methods can measure body composition much more accurately. If your doctor still references BMI, find yourself a new doctor.
There is a condition I like to call skinny fat: "normal weight" person who fits into "normal" size clothes but carrying a high percentage of bodyfat.
The majority of thin and inactive people fall into the skinny fat category. They often are not healthier than the "overweight" person who is cardiovascular fit and runs half marathons.

Back on topic: cleaning up my diet and lifestyle has directly contributed to my trading success over the past year. I have a much more positive attitude and I think more clearly throughout the trading day.
I use a number of strategies to maintain a healthy diet. 1. Always eat a solid breakfast. I eat some variation of low fat omelet. I prep the ingredients at the start of the week so I can whip up breakfast in a short period of time. 2. Eat 5- 6 meals a day 3. Consume the bulk of my non fibrous carbs following weight training sessions 4. Use protein shakes for the mid morning , mid afternoon meals. Saves time, and keeps me light, energetic throughout trading session.
Specific details vary on whether I'm trying to build muscle or lean out, but I never find myself hungry.

When I worked on an institutional trading floor, we would discuss what we were going to order for lunch, shortly after finishing breakfast! I remember some great feasts but that environment made it impossible to be healthy.


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Hey Big Mike,

I've been thinking about you..........thinking about what might be the most useful information I could share with you......

Here's my 2 cents........

Just as you made ATM trading systems a "hobby" of yours........do likewise with health research.

This is a huge never ending endeavour......undoing the habits of a lifetime is NOT an easy thing to do.

The first thing I would recommend is start with educating yourself about water........this is no small thing.

WaterCure | The Miracles of Water to Cure Diseases

Check out this site......

The second thing I would recommend that you focus on is sleep.......also no small thing. Eating within 2 hours of going to bed is not a good idea.....your sleep will not be truly restful as your body is trying to deal with all the food you just put in it.

Remember......this will be the beginning of a journey.....one step at a time. You can not change overnight...... the changes will have to be made incrementally.

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Hi Mike

I can't say that "I used to weigh 300 pounds and now I weigh 180." or anything like that.
I'm just going to throw some stuff out to you.

One of the most, if not thee most important thing is to set up a system that you can maintain. We
all only have so much will-power. I'm talking here about diet and exercise and whatever else there
may be.

Start to add one thing at a time regarding your diet and keep a log or at least try to remember.
If you do multiple things at a time you won't know what is doing what. For example, taking some
supplement (of whatever sort) while at the same time drastically changing your diet, to what you
think and believe is a great diet. Being tired is just one sign that what you've tried isn't working.
You won't be able to tell what it is. It might be both.

There is a list of foods that apparently
you can eat as much of them as you want and never gain weight. This is probably true. They must
be eaten raw and uncooked. Of course you can't live off these foods. It's just something that may
prove helpful.

What are free foods? - Sharecare


Alfalfa sprouts
Bell peppers
Bok hoy
Cabbage
Chicory
Celery
Chinesecabbage
Cucumber
Endive
Escarole
Lettuce
Parsley
Radishes
Spinach
Turnips
Watercress (avoid, due to parasites S.S.,{ never checked out the others on the list})

There are many ways to have good tasting low fat meals, but you probably don't want to go to
a great deal of trouble in this regard. You have to know yourself in this to an extent. I don't think
you want to spend in excess of an hour a day in food preparation.

Also, too much protein and/or carbohydrate and/or fat turns into fat. This is what the books tell me.
I think ingestion of fat is the main thing to combat, but I'm not a nutritionist.


For exercise, you also have to do something that you can maintain. I don't think body building is something
for this stage. I would suggest cardio. If you're going to do this alone, which seems the case, you probably
will find all exercise boring, but not impossible to maintain. I would suggest a treadmill with music playing,
or maybe some TV show on. When I do my body building (on just Saturday's) I have free music going from
Pandora. They have many many songs. There are some commercials, but not too many. The ad-free service
is/was just $3 a month. I play a "station" that has interesting instrumental music, but that's just me.

Pandora Radio - Listen to Free Internet Radio, Find New Music

A multivitamin/multimineral is a good thing to take. I take a week's worth on Saturday. I don't know anyone
that would do this but me. It seemed to me a while back that I was getting tired if I took it daily. It
isn't always easy to tell what is doing what in life to make one tired or slow, however. All these contain
iodine (for your thyroid gland). Too much or too little iodine can have a negative effect. I assume it was the
iodine, but it could also have been one of the B complex vitamins.
(I do also take a few specific supplements on the weekdays, but I don't want to overwhelm you in this.)

The point is to eventually take a multivitamin/multimineral to be sure you're covered. Everyone needs
vitamin E and chromium and and and etc. It is way hard to get everything in a good diet.
(Also, there is no multivitamin/multimineral out there that has everything, to my knowledge.)

Take an aspirin each day to thin the blood. It is suggested to take a baby aspirin. Be sure it does not
have a coating. I don't trust them to dissolve in the stomach. If it does have a coating, be sure to crush
the tablet.

I came across a theory many years ago that there is a optimum diet for everyone. Some people do better
with more protein and some do better with less, etc. It's more complex than that, but I did find the concept
rather interesting. Something to keep in the back of your mind for now.

Feel free to contact me on this subject. Be advised that I'm not an expert however.

- Stephen

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I would like to raise a warning about eating an aspirin a day. While it indeed makes your blood thinner, it has been proven that it creates serious permanent stomach damage. I would not advise to eat an aspirin or baby aspirin a day.

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A British study released in September found aspirin can double the chances of dangerous internal bleeding in people without a history of heart disease, while having no effect on the rate of heart attacks or strokes.

He urged doctors to review all their patients taking low-dose aspirin for primary prevention whether prescribed by themselves or whether it was bought overthecounter by the patients.
'The decision about whether to continue or stop treatment should be made only after fully informing patients of the available evidence. Some patients may see a small risk of harm as worth taking because they gain a small degree of possible benefit,' he added.
June Davison, of the British Heart Foundation said: 'It is well established that aspirin can help prevent heart attacks and strokes among people with heart and circulatory disease. They should continue to take it as prescribed by their doctor.
'But for those who do not have heart and circulatory disease the risk of serious bleeding outweighs the potential benefits. We advise people not to take aspirin daily, unless they check with their doctor.'
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I would like to raise a warning about eating an aspirin a day. While it indeed makes your blood thinner, it has been proven that it creates serious permanent stomach damage. I would not advise to eat an aspirin or baby aspirin a day.

--
A British study released in September found aspirin can double the chances of dangerous internal bleeding in people without a history of heart disease, while having no effect on the rate of heart attacks or strokes.

He urged doctors to review all their patients taking low-dose aspirin for primary prevention whether prescribed by themselves or whether it was bought overthecounter by the patients.
'The decision about whether to continue or stop treatment should be made only after fully informing patients of the available evidence. Some patients may see a small risk of harm as worth taking because they gain a small degree of possible benefit,' he added.
June Davison, of the British Heart Foundation said: 'It is well established that aspirin can help prevent heart attacks and strokes among people with heart and circulatory disease. They should continue to take it as prescribed by their doctor.
'But for those who do not have heart and circulatory disease the risk of serious bleeding outweighs the potential benefits. We advise people not to take aspirin daily, unless they check with their doctor.'
--

I would also not take any medical advise from any internet forums

This is interesting. I must say that I don't keep up with the research the way I used to. (A baby aspirin is 1/4
a standard size aspirin tablet, that is just 81mg.) High amounts of vitamin E can also thin the blood. I hesitate
at this point to offer a dosage per day. I do know that if one takes a dose too high the blood becomes too
thin, which is way bad.

Links about the subject:

Mayo clinic:

Daily aspirin therapy: Understand the benefits and risks - MayoClinic.com

https://www.mayoclinic.org/health/daily-aspirin-therapy/HB00073/NSECTIONGROUP=2

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Just a follow-up.

First, thanks to those who gave serious replies, I appreciate it.

I signed up with MyFitnessPal which is free and has a very easy-to-use website as well as Android app to track food and exercise. Tomorrow I'll have been using it for a week, tracking every single item. It makes this really super easy, the food database is extensive (so far every single thing has been in there) and I just use my phone to scan the barcode if it is something like a TV dinner, salad dressing, bbq seasoning etc -- or I can create my own "meals" that I make frequently and put all the individual ingredients of a meal into a single line item so it is easy to select again in the future.

I am now taking a much better multivitamin. I used to take One a Day for Men, but have now switched to Ultra Source of Life with Lutein No Iron.

I am now switching from 2% milk in my meals to Unsweetened Almond milk, and I am also now eating a meal replacement shake made with almond milk and a banana or some frozen fruit to it. I am using the shake to replace the midnight snack as well as a snack replacement if I have a craving between meals.

So naturally now the trick is to stick with it. My determination level is high, so I have confidence I will do it.

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I'm not a Guru , fitness trainer or any of that stuff . I'm just an old guy that decided to lose weight after a heart attack. I lost 70 lbs and have kept it off for 2 years.

There are 2 steps, the initial lose weight phase and the maintain new weight phase.

Phase One:

I avoided Alcohol, Sweets, Bread , Junk food and most meat.

I ate tons of vegetables (no cheese sauce ... kinda defeats the purpose) If you want to add flavor not calories... Tabasco Sauce is your friend.

I stopped eating after 6 pm.

If I got a craving for sweets, I would eat fruit. I highly recommend Lil' Cuties Mandarin Oranges, Bing Cherries and grapes when in season.


Buy seedless grapes when available that are naturally sweet, freeze them.
Take frozen grapes, place in a bowl, put a mixture of Low fat vanilla yogurt and Splenda (just enough to barely glaze the grapes when stirred) quickly stir together. The yogurt will freeze to the outside of the grapes. I used to make that for my son when he was a toddler, it worked great for the diet.

I got some type of aerobic exercise 30 minutes every day.

Nothing earth shattering; brisk walking ( the dog loved it), bowling, shooting pool (don't drink the beer or eat the cheese fries ) etc.

My son's gym has an indoor pool with swim lanes (4 ft deep). Us old guys walk laps instead of swimming. The buoyancy will take the strain off the knees and ankles and the water resistance will literally melt pounds.

It ain't macho , but then again no hard body young "hottie" ever looked at an old guy in swim trunks and thought ... "I gotta get me some of that..."

Eat 3 meals a day so you don't binge at the end of the day.

DO NOT keep snacks in your work area.

I lost 70 lbs.

Phase Two, Maintenance:

Now I eat whatever I want, within reason, in reasonable size portions.

If I have a serving of Blue Bell Home Made Vanilla Ice Cream, it's not going to blow up my diet (assuming you only eat one serving, occasionally)

I still eat tons of vegetables, but I'm lucky, I like vegetables.

I still get some form of aerobic exercise every day, health permitting.

I still avoid eating late at night.

Big Mike, you are a much younger healthier guy than me. You can do this with out feeling deprived.

Did I mention I lost 70 pounds?

I'm just a simple man trading a simple plan.

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@Big Mike: You should make a poll on the average BMI of the members.

BMI... ahahahahahahaha

Guys that won't tell you how much they really earn are going to tell their real BMI...

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Cutting out meat is something of a problem for me, most of my meals are based around throwing something on the grill. But I have been eating more veggies and cutting back on Texas Toast and all the yummy sauces

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Cutting out meat is something of a problem for me, most of my meals are based around throwing something on the grill. But I have been eating more veggies and cutting back on Texas Toast and all the yummy sauces

Mike

I didn't say you can't have any meat ... just be reasonable.

BTW... grilled steak is better for you than Chicken Fried Steak and gravy.

No amount of exercise can work off meals consisting of 3 beers, a two lb chicken fried steak with gravy and a baked potato with butter, cheese, bacon and sour cream, Texas Toast and a double fudge brownie with chocolate sauce and ice cream on it for desert.

Once you get to your target weight eat reasonably.

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I want to congratulate you on your weight loss, btw, great job. Can I ask approximately how long it took for you to lose 70 lbs? I am targeting a loss of 1 to 1.5 lbs per week, thoughts on that?

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BMI... ahahahahahahaha

Guys that won't tell you how much they really earn are going to tell their real BMI...


You are not going to sign that poll, are you?


Just want to get my image of the average trader to be confirmed:

Male, too old to do something serious, malicious and first and foremost fat.

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This just don't seem right!

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Cutting out meat is something of a problem for me, most of my meals are based around throwing something on the grill. But I have been eating more veggies and cutting back on Texas Toast and all the yummy sauces

Mike

It seems like you are off to a good start.

The link below shows what cuts of beef are lower in fat and which are higher.

https://www.beefitswhatsfordinner.com/leanbeef.aspx

Pork tenderloin is quite low in fat also.



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As far as I can see, to lose weight and be in better shape :

* Eat less whilst also adding more vegetables and fruit to your diet & reducing junk foods.
* Exercise more trying to keep a balance of aerobic and stretching exercise.

Make the transition slow & easy - for some it's a major and invaluable lifestyle change.

If you can't do it, then address the psychological / emotional aspects just as you would if constantly failing to stick to your trading rules. There may be very compulsive and addictive elements to over-eating, probably unconscious, just like over-trading etc etc.

All very simple, not at all easy : to eat less, you have to be willing to experience intense feelings of hunger, as your body is set up to eat a familiar amount each day and will take time to adjust; likewise, you have to be willing to experience resistance to exercise & do it anyway. Eventually you 'll most likely start to prefer the new feelings of greater health etc, but for some that can take a very long time...

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As far as I can see, to lose weight and be in better shape :

* Eat less whilst also adding more vegetables and fruit to your diet & reducing junk foods.
* Exercise more trying to keep a balance of aerobic and stretching exercise.

Make the transition slow & easy - for some it's a major and invaluable lifestyle change.

If you can't do it, then address the psychological / emotional aspects just as you would if constantly failing to stick to your trading rules. There may be very compulsive and addictive elements to over-eating, probably unconscious, just like over-trading etc etc.

All very simple, not at all easy : to eat less, you have to be willing to experience intense feelings of hunger, as your body is set up to eat a familiar amount each day and will take time to adjust; likewise, you have to be willing to experience resistance to exercise & do it anyway. Eventually you 'll most likely start to prefer the new feelings of greater health etc, but for some that can take a very long time...

Actually, this is a misnomer to think you should eat less and be hungry to lose weight. If you are going to be hungry all the time, you will never stick to a diet. Sure, if you consume 10,000 calories a day, then you will need to eat less, but you do not need to be hungry. If you eat the right amount of calories that you need, then you will not be hungry. Also if you eat smaller, more frequent meals and healthy snacks (fruits, peanuts, almonds) during the day, you will not go hungry.

One should focus on eating healthy and not starve yourself and exercise. Eating healthy and even 20 minutes exercise a day will already help. But then you need to be serious about exercise and not do an half hearted attempt. Just running or walking is not really going to help you lose weight either. Adding resistance training to build muscle will ensure that you continue burning calories even after your workout and not only during the time you exercise.

Meat is also not necessarily bad as it is a good source of protein which is helpful to add lean muscle. But stick to organic, hormone free meat. Contrary to many other things where organic is just a marketing gimmy with no real benefits, when it comes to meat, it does make a difference.

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Personally,

I get up and I go run/walk for 60-75 minutes with only 16oz water in me and my animalpak vitamins. Basically I do interval training; walking at 3MPH and Running at 6MPH, 15m walk, 15m run at a 5 incline, and I wear a weighted chest(30lbs). While I walk on the threadmill I have my laptop in front of me and I read bloomberg/reuters news and analyze the EU/Asian Markets; when I run, I just listen to BBC and BLOOM.

After that I then do light weights, 3-5 sets, 10reps, hit all basic muscles with 30-45 second rest in b/w exercise. I dont read during that time. I then feed my body a 16oz blend protein shake, 60g high fiber oatmeal, all with whole milk, and I hit the shower. The whole proces is 1.5-2.5 hours, depends on how long I was up the night before as I try to sleep 8 hours, so I adjust the intensity depending on how much time I got before I have to head out to the office. The time to depart from home does not changes, so I adjust based on what.

I try to get to the office by 8:30AM EST, that way I can watch the open and do my trades. I block the first 2 hours of my calendar at work for "emails and follow ups" , I enter all my orders before 10:30AM EST anyhow, and then monitor on my iphone. If I did traded futures that day, I was in and out between 9:35AM-10:30AM EST. Options are monitored via iphone.

I drink lots of water through out the day, I try to meet for the whole day the 1Gallon rule; no liquids will mean your thought process is slowed down and your body is not getting all the nutrients you need and taking away waste. Through out the day I will consume fruits (apples and bananas mainly) and for lunch I will always have a chicken salad with chickpeas, spinach, carrots, onions, etc. and ranch dressing. I dont do fat free, people dont seem to realize that our brain and inmune system needs fat, but in moderation. I use to do a yogurt as well, but there are now all fat free and they all taste like crap. I dont take the elevators at work, I walk up and down the whole 4-10 flights of stairs, depending where I might have a meeting that day.

Dinner time, I try to have natural protein (steak/fish/chicken/pork), rice or potatoes for carbs and vegetables, with a glass of red wine (malbec/cab) and water of course. Before I go to bed I will either consume cheese w/grapes and whole wheat crackers, or a protein drink, whichever is faster and that I feel in the mood for; nothing more annoying than waking in the middle of the night and losing sleep because your body is starving, so I try to avoid that.

I am 6'2" and my weight fluctuates between 180-190lbs, mainly based on if I am doing heavy weights or just doing cardio. The heaviest I have ever been is 220lbs and I was not eating right and doing any exercises at all.

My advice to you...

It sounds as if you have two challenges, 1) how to loose weight, 2) how to keep it off... just like in trading, find what works for you, but first you need to find out your current state and then set yourself a realistic goal (loose 1lb=3500cals per week as an example)

IMO ... No liquids during 6-8 hours is a major problem, you need to have that gallon of water next to you. You dont have to drink it all at first, but set yourself a goal to drink half while you are sitting there. No food intake during that time is also an issue, your body starves and stores food as soon as it gets it which is why fat exists for later. Eat fruits, or oatmeal bars while trading. It is not messy and you get 100cals a pop. Get a stationary cycle or a threadmill, and plant it in front of the TV in the office and while researching, etc. multitask where it makes sense to exercise; it is easy to do and your brain will be happier with endorphins floating around from the exercise, not to mention your other organs.

Find a good multivitamin, the best are Universal AnimalPak and Optimun Opti-Men. Not all multis are created equal, those are the two best ones I have come across. Get some protein shakes, Labrada LBM 60 is the best, and you dont need the whole dosage, I only drink 2-4 scoops per day; depending on what amount of protein I took in during the day. Our testosterone levels decrease with age, feeding the right ingredients helps boost them higher than normal and leads to great side effects

Must people tend to forget our bodies are machines, and need fuel and proper care. We normally allow our minds to abuse the machine. Follow whatever plan you decide upon with the same discipline as trading, and adjust as conditions change and you will be ok.

Disclaimer: ... what works for me, might not work for you, you should consult your doctor before doing any exercise.

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One suggestion, for what it's worth, is to have one day a week to not
exercise and not be concerned about what you eat. 'Perfection' is to
never take a day off. I think that knowing you have a certain day each
week when you don't have to workout or follow a diet will be very
helpful psychologically.



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One suggestion, for what it's worth, is to have one day a week to not
exercise and not be concerned about what you eat. 'Perfection' is to
never take a day off. I think that knowing you have a certain day each
week when you don't have to workout or follow a diet will be very
helpful psychologically.

that is correct, I normally assume that is understood... the body needs rest, which is why I always go for 8 hours sleep...

on weekends, Saturdays I wake up late but I do the same cycle... I dont do anything at all on Sunday.. I just lounge around... but I should specify, there isnt a diet... I dont count the calories I eat all that much, I just make sure to eat enough to support all bodily functions and the calories I am spending.. sometimes there is a surplus, sometimes there is a shortage... I dont stay away from ice cream, I do eat pizza's every so often and I love chocolate frosted doughts..

the key is moderation... I dont believe much in diets.. (atkins, southbeach, etc).. but rather on a healhy composition and variety of foods on ones overall diet.

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Mike, good to see you've started. Best to introduce a few changes at a time, as you're doing.

From what you posted earlier, I believe you are trying to shed some unwanted pounds, which is a far different venture than simply living healthier (especially after you've reached a certain age).
Alot of the suggestions made previously are fine for maintenance, but you may find yourself frustrated if your goal is dropping fat.

Exercise is a very important component. When properly combined with diet, you become a fat burning machine.
Cardio/interval training has been mentioned and is an excellent addition. Heavy resistance training is a must too. The body is encouraged to spare muscle and use fat for energy which will propel you to your goal.

On the diet side, a constant supply of energy throughout the day is key to a healthy diet - whether it be a formal meal, healthy snack, or an MRP/protein shake.
I plan out beforehand what I'm going to eat during working hours, so I don't get sidetracked by work. Drink water during working hours as well.

It's very easy to lose weight - the tricky part is losing unwanted fat.
This is the main reason why diets fail. People think they've lost fat when in fact it muscle, which quickly rebounds when normal diet returns.
Resist the urge to weigh yourself daily, Better to take measurements of key areas - thighs, waist, chest etc. If you drop 2 inches on your waist, it is likely to be fat loss regardless of what the scale says (though expect your worst body part to show progress last, it's a cruel fact)

The best source of diet info is on the bodybuilding forums. More average people than you'd think if you haven't been on before. Might be more than you think you need but as with trading, it's best to learn from the "pros".

I'm interested to see how you do. Make your targets challenging but realistic. I'm in the midst of a major body transformation that started last year, and should continue until fall to reach my ultimate end goal.

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The subject of, whatever one wants to call it, weight lifting,weight training,strength training
bodybuilding, body sculpting,resistance training, (I think they're all pretty much synonyms)
is complex. Personally I wouldn't be concerned about it until you have your diet and aerobic exercise
methodology settled upon.

As I posted before, I think a treadmill with music playing is one idea. No time used up going to
the gym, or anywhere else. Weather never is a problem. You don't have to do it with anyone
else (like tennis, etc.) on their time table. Walking is something you know how to do already as well.

Regarding my personal experiences with bodybuilding, I came to a very important conclusion.

Don't get hurt. Since you're not going into a professional sport, it really isn't important. More like
paint on the house really. (I suppose some would disagree on that.)

I remember two times that I got hurt. My right hip joint was sore for so long I can't even remember now.
Probably well over a year. I was, or was sure anyway, that I was doing stiff leg dead lifts correctly too.
The other time I was doing good mornings. The way I did them was just stupid, so that's totally my fault.

You can always get more complex. To keep it simple for now I would think about diet and aerobic.
To an extent, the lower half of the body, legs and butt, will get some muscle tone from walking.
Not the same as body building of course, but still something.

Eventually, to keep it simple/easy, just do body building
regarding the muscles of the upper body and abdominals, but this would not be for a while. One
doesn't want to be overwhelmed.

Everyone is different to an extent. I've heard that it is not recommended to do aerobic before sleep,
as it releases epinephrine (also known as adrenaline) which will hinder you from getting a good sleep.
I suppose some people exercise right before sleep and sleep better because of it.

You probably should walk (or some form of aerobic) 5 or 6 days a week. I would set an absolute
minimum time goal for this. Perhaps 10 minutes a day walking briskly. If you want to exceed that, or
do another walk later, this would be like extra credit. Just remember that 10 minutes a day for 5 or
6 days a week is very modest. Hey, I could say 45 minutes a day. Why not? Because I want you to
maintain all this.

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Actually, this is a misnomer to think you should eat less and be hungry to lose weight. If you are going to be hungry all the time, you will never stick to a diet.

Well, I never suggested being hungry all the time... but everyone I know who has had trouble losing weight has had trouble dealing with craving, so that's the issue I intended to highlight. This in turn has everything to do with being willing to experience uncomfortable feelings and desires without satisfying them by eating.

It's interesting how many people dislike the idea of eating less... in a Western world that is overflowing with obesity (absolutely not pointing any fingers at you, dear Big Mike !). It's also interesting to see how many otherwise very successful and focussed people often find this particular issue so difficult. There are lots of very helpful replies to this thread suggesting routines, diets etc, but in the end any serious individual will find their way if and only if they can address the psychological issues that hinder them.

Just like trading really...

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I would suggest you visit the following site and just read up a bit.. plenty of free info...

Bodybuilding.com's Main Page - The Largest And Most Complete Bodybuilding Site Online! Bodybuilding Info.

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Posted by Mike:

I am now taking a much better multivitamin. I used to take One a Day for Men, but have now switched to Ultra Source of Life with Lutein No Iron.

I am now switching from 2% milk in my meals to Unsweetened Almond milk, and I am also now eating a meal replacement shake made with almond milk and a banana or some frozen fruit to it. I am using the shake to replace the midnight snack as well as a snack replacement if I have a craving between meals.

So naturally now the trick is to stick with it. My determination level is high, so I have confidence I will do it.

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I get the impression that someone has given you some advice already (hee hee). Not many men know
that it is currently advised to have a multivitamin/multimineral that does not contain iron. It looks like
the almond milk and the meal replacement shake are also ok (just my uneducated opinion).

You mentioned checking out the nutritional content of a TV dinner. Watch out for high sodium, high fat, and
quick sugars (and probably other stuff too). Quick sugars can cause your blood sugar level to rise and then
fall (ie. hypoglycemia). {Also I just read today that aspirin supposedly can cause hypoglycemia.}

According to wikipedia hypoglycemia has many symptoms, including hunger and fatigue. If you eat, well
whatever, and don't fell right 1 or 2 hours later, I'd say you should avoid that food again. You could be
getting hypoglycemic from it, or you are allergic to it, or maybe something else.

I hope to add a post regarding a natural appetite suppressant next.

(Mike, you don't need to reply to this post unless you really want.)

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I am targeting a loss of 1 to 1.5 lbs per week, thoughts on that?

I didnt have to lose 70lbs, but I did lose 30lbs... IMO... 1lb=3500cals per week, which is 500-600 cals per day to spend... so that is very, very realistic... anything greater, you are merely sacrificing water and muscle on the loss and you will pack on weight back immediately after stopping the regiment you are following.. also, as it was mentioned before... what you want to lose is body fat, not weight.. muscle is heavier so you can in fact increase your weight while losing BF...

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I have never tried this so I don't know if it works or not.

I have heard about green tea but never really studied about it. It seems
to be helpful regarding weight loss. Be advised that Ultra Source of Life® with Lutein No Iron Tablets
has a small amount of green tea in it.

There is green tea and green tea extract. I think they are the same (unless it specifically says
that "our green tea extract is caffeine free") Regular green tea, as a beverage, has caffeine and so
does ordinary coffee. It seems that both green tea and coffee may reduce the appetite. Green tea
seems to have more than just its caffeine content going for it however.

Before I forget, I came across something that indicates that green tea can reduce the absorption of
the B vitamins and minerals. I don't know why it would do that. Perhaps taking green tea 12 hours
away from your multivitamin/multimineral would be advisable. Or just drink coffee. I have never checked
out if coffee is the same in this matter however. It may be indeed the same???

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Green Tea Caffeine Benefits

As compared to black tea, coffee or soda, green tea has a very steady stimulating effect because of caffeine and two caffeine metabolites (caffeine-like substances) - theophylline, a stronger stimulant substance than caffeine, and theobromine, which is a slightly weaker stimulant than caffeine. This combination is responsible for not making you feel nervous, or annoying headaches.

An average cup of brewed coffee can contain between 60 to 160 mg of caffeine. A can of soda has been proved to provide 40 to 70 mg, while a cup of brewed black tea results in 20 to 90 mg. While green tea on the other hand has caffeine in the range of 6 to 35 mg only.

more here:

Is Green Tea Caffeine Free


I'm posting a good many links below. There is a lot to read, and only those with a great interest
in green tea and green tea extract should continue.


Side effects:

Green Tea Extract Side Effects

Side Effects of Drinking Green Tea

Excerpts from the above link...

Another side effect of drinking green tea is iron malabsorption.

The tea reduces the absorption of thiamine...



Green tea extract and weight loss:

Green Tea Extract and Weight Loss


Green tea extract:

Green Tea Extract


Green tea extract from wikipedia:

Green tea extract - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Green tea from University of Maryland Medical Center:

Green tea


Green tea extract product from VRP:

Green Tea Extract - 180 mg, 120 Capsules - Vitamin Research Products

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Mike,

I wanted to leave you with some last words of advice with regards to the whole weight loss endeavor...

1) Visit your doctor, find out what your current stats are. Full Blood Workout, Weight, etc.
2) Visit a University Human or Sports Performance Lab. They can provide you with services to determine your body composition and measurements, cardiovascular evaluation, vo2max, isokinetic strenght, etc.
3) Consult a certified personal trainer. It is the fastest way to get yourself started the right way and not hurt yourself.

Would you trade without the right amount of risk capital? Would you start trading without knowing how much margin you needed or the hours for the instrument or the right setup at the home office? Would you want to learn to trade from someone that has never traded in their life or traded with very little success, or would you rather learn from a prop trader that makes $1MM a year?

In other words, a) find out where you stand, b) set an appropriate goal once you know your health state, c) obtain advice from experts and have them create a plan based on your health state, d) execute the plan given and stick to it.

I know that we all have your best interest in mind with our advice as to what has worked for us, but in the end unless we are doctors, dietitians or certified trainers, all we give you is advice without knowing all the facts about your health or physical state based on our own experience and what we think is right that we learned ourselves; some of the advice is good, some of bad, some is just plain awful, but it is all well intentioned I am sure.

anyhow, just my advice ... for whatever is worth... good luck on the whole process and endeavor..

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(http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=cuIJRsAuCHQ) This is why we are getting lazy,fat, and unhealthy, we can't even walk for ourselves anymore.Lol

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(http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=cuIJRsAuCHQ) This is why we are getting lazy,fat, and unhealthy, we can't even walk for ourselves anymore.Lol


Thanks, I never saw this before. And all these years I've been using my
legs like a sucker!

Seriously though, instead of 2 young photogenic models, what they should have done
(and probably will) is to use a couple of people that are senior citizens. There are many
that are not wheelchair-bound, yet can't walk long distances. They like to go to the
mall, the whole mall, or so many other places for that matter, but they don't because
of the trouble they have with walking. I think this would be a way neat product for them (seriously).

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When I was single I ate pretty crappy. My current gf though loves to cook and packs my breakfast and lunch, hah. It's awesome. She's awesome. I buy most of the groceries and she does most of the cooking. I like to have greek yogurt mixed with honey and fresh fruit for breakfast so she prepares it for me the night before. So each morning I just take it out of the fridge and eat it while browsing my charts.

She also gets on my case if I don't drink enough water or if I eat too much fast food when she's not around. Which is good, hah, cause she helps to keep me on track.

P.S. If anyone knows where I can get a METAL Voltron lunchbox pleeeease let me know. I've been search forever and can't one. I'd love to put my lunch in there and take it to work each day. Like BLADOW, HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW?! VOLTRON alllll up in this bitch! But yeah, would appreciate a heads up.

P.P.S. I'm sure some of you have heard of Jack Lalanne and know that he recently passed. Here's an old video of him talking about sugar. Keep in mind it was a different time back then so he's not so PC haha, but still, the message is great.


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When I was single I ate pretty crappy. My current gf though loves to cook and packs my breakfast and lunch, hah. It's awesome. She's awesome. I buy most of the groceries and she does most of the cooking. I like to have greek yogurt mixed with honey and fresh fruit for breakfast so she prepares it for me the night before. So each morning I just take it out of the fridge and eat it while browsing my charts.

She also gets on my case if I don't drink enough water or if I eat too much fast food when she's not around. Which is good, hah, cause she helps to keep me on track.


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She's awesome. I buy most of the groceries and she does most of the cooking.

P.P.S. I'm sure some of you have heard of Jack Lalanne and know that he recently passed. Here's an old video of him talking about sugar. Keep in mind it was a different time back then so he's not so PC haha, but still, the message is great.

YouTube - Jack Lalanne - Sugarholics

There was a cook a number of years ago that was also a body builder. He had a show on the Health
network I think. He always made low fat dishes. Often he would juice some vegetable and then take
that juice and cook some low fat form of meat in the juice, instead of cooking the meat in oil or butter.
Stuff like that. I couldn't find his name on-line though. Did stuff in the 90's. If anyone knows they can
post. I think your gal might do this, as she doesn't mind cooking. Maybe he made some videos that are
still for sale????

It is indeed possible to get too much quick sugar. It will cause hypoglycemia. The quick sugar causes your
blood sugar level to rise then crash. This will often cause the brain to work improperly. Jack Lalanne mentions
this in the video to some extent. Hypoglycemia has many effects. Like, feeling tired. And that's not something
that's going to help any trader.

I believe that caffeine will exacerbate hypoglycemia. Different people are
affected differently. I'm not against having some caffeine.
(All this is just some very very basic info to traders who might want to study all this more.)

A partial list of quick sugars:

white sugar
brown sugar
corn syrup
maple syrup

Grapes/raisins as well, I'm pretty sure, might cause hypoglycemia.

I just found a list of many things to avoid to avoid hypoglycemia. I'm not a nutritionist so I don't know
if the list is valid or not. I don't feel comfortable just taking information I see about nutrition on-line (that I
came across in a 10 second search at Google) and posting it. Nutrition is a complex subject. We are not even all the same. Some people are allergic to whatever, while others are not. I became allergic to a particular
food a number of years ago, then that allergy apparently went away. I don't know why. I might have got an
ulcer, which eventually healed????





General info about Jack Lalanne for those that are interested in his life:

Decades before fitness began being promoted by celebrities like Jane Fonda and Richard Simmons, LaLanne was already widely recognized for publicly preaching the health benefits of regular exercise and a good diet. He published numerous books on fitness and hosted a fitness television show between 1951 and 1985. As early as 1936, at age 21, he opened one of the nation's first[3] fitness gyms in Oakland, California, which became a prototype for dozens of similar gyms using his name.[4]

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So naturally now the trick is to stick with it. My determination level is high, so I have confidence I will do it.

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It has been just about 4 weeks now. I'm still going strong, sticking with it - tracking every meal, watching exactly what I eat and what I buy at the grocery store. Have learned a lot about evil marketing to make it seem like something is healthier when it really isn't.

I've lost a few pounds, would be nice to have lost more, but I know it will come. It took a long time to put the weight on, I know it will take a long time to get it off. I am not starving myself or radically altering routines, so it is very easy to stay on this diet.

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It has been just about 4 weeks now. I'm still going strong, sticking with it - tracking every meal, watching exactly what I eat and what I buy at the grocery store. Have learned a lot about evil marketing to make it seem like something is healthier when it really isn't.

I've lost a few pounds, would be nice to have lost more, but I know it will come. It took a long time to put the weight on, I know it will take a long time to get it off. I am not starving myself or radically altering routines, so it is very easy to stay on this diet.

Because of my bad back, I'm presently looking into selling my treadmill which is really hard on me, and replacing it with an elliptical trainer. That is my next move.

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Sounds good! A health food store might have healthier choices for you. Whole Foods is really
the only national one I know of. They are in Lakewood, Forest and Park Lane. Supposedly they
also offer on-line shopping. I don't know anything about them though, so I don't really recommend them.

https://wholefoodsmarket.com/stores/texas/


Sorry about the treadmill problem. I've never used an elliptical trainer so I won't say anything about them.
Swimming is also a thought if you have a pool or access to one.

I can't see what you have in the bowl there, but that banana is definitely healthy. (hee, hee)

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I've lost a few pounds, would be nice to have lost more, but I know it will come. It took a long time to put the weight on, I know it will take a long time to get it off. I am not starving myself or radically altering routines, so it is very easy to stay on this diet.

that is the right attitude... 1lbs per week max is what you want to loose without sacrificing your body...


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Because of my bad back, I'm presently looking into selling my treadmill which is really hard on me, and replacing it with an elliptical trainer. That is my next move.

you should also look at a step climber... I like it the best, that and row machines, but if you have a bad back I would stay away from a rowing machine.

oh, one more thing... IMO, when it comes to exercise equipment, one gets what one pays for... so higher quality that will last you a lot longer, depending how long you plan to have it for, will cost you more...

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As for an elliptical trainer, I was considering one of these.

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As for an elliptical trainer, I was considering one of these.

Mike

Perhaps you could go to a fitness center and/or a Dick's sporting goods store
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Phone: 972-239-5455
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As for an elliptical trainer, I was considering one of these.

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I prefer cycling to elliptical machines, the steppers destroy my knees.

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best way to lose or control weigth and mental health is cycling for me
I try to go for 1,5 hour or 2 hours every day
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best way to lose or control weigth and mental health is cycling for me
I try to go for 1,5 hour or 2 hours every day
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To lose mental health?

Usually I am happy with a 1 hour drive, but only if it's not raining. If the weather is bad, I have a training device at home, which I do not like to use...

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that's nice I was meaning control mental health it's unbelievable how well I am after riding my mountain bike I try to go beetween european and us session no rain no snow 7 by 7
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Good work, Mike. Consistency is key, especially with the diet. It takes time for your body to be become more efficient at burning fat, so progress will be slow in the beginning.

I'm into week 6 of my program and have lost 10 pounds - mostly fat as my strength is the same or better. I'm experimenting with a keto type diet and I must say I haven't felt better. Biggest plus from the diet is my mental stamina is significantly higher - no more afternoon trading fatigue!


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Because of my bad back, I'm presently looking into selling my treadmill which is really hard on me, and replacing it with an elliptical trainer. That is my next move.

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Good work, Mike. Consistency is key, especially with the diet. It takes time for your body to be become more efficient at burning fat, so progress will be slow in the beginning.

I'm into week 6 of my program and have lost 10 pounds - mostly fat as my strength is the same or better. I'm experimenting with a keto type diet and I must say I haven't felt better. Biggest plus from the diet is my mental stamina is significantly higher - no more afternoon trading fatigue!

Would you mind elaborating a bit on the diet portion of your routine?

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Good work, Mike. Consistency is key, especially with the diet. It takes time for your body to be become more efficient at burning fat, so progress will be slow in the beginning.

I'm into week 6 of my program and have lost 10 pounds - mostly fat as my strength is the same or better. I'm experimenting with a keto type diet and I must say I haven't felt better. Biggest plus from the diet is my mental stamina is significantly higher - no more afternoon trading fatigue!

I guess it involves medium chain triglycerides (MCTs). {never tried them}
All this gets complicated quickly.


In the 1960s, it was discovered that medium-chain triglycerides (MCTs) produce more ketones per unit of energy than normal dietary fats (which are mostly long-chain triglycerides).[16] MCTs are more efficiently absorbed and are rapidly transported to the liver via the hepatic portal system rather than the lymphatic system.[5]

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MCT oil is interesting because, when it is metabolised in the body, it behaves rather more like a carbohydrate than a fat. The fuel of preference for the body is carbohydrate, and the body will use up its store of carbohydrate before using other fuels... Unlike other fats, MCT oil does not go into the lymphatic system; instead it is transported directly to the liver where it is metabolised, so releasing energy quickly, just like a carbohydrate, and creating lots of ketones in the process.

MCT oil in the ketogenic diet





Ketones have been described as "magic" in their ability to increase metabolic efficiency, while decreasing production of free radicals, the damaging byproducts of normal metabolism. Ketone bodies are relevant to neurological diseases such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease,[5] and the heart and brain operate 25% more efficiently using ketones as a source of energy.[6] Research has also shown ketones play a role in reducing epileptic seizures with the high-fat, near-zero carbohydrate Ketogenic Diet.

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What is a Keto Diet? | BuiltFit.com

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MCT, Medium Chain Triglycerides Oil - Vitamin Research Products

All this is interesting, but I'm no nutritionist. It might help.

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As for an elliptical trainer, I was considering one of these.

Mike

We built a professional quality gym at my former work. I was tasked with the selection and purchase of the all the workout equipment.

Regarding the ellipticals. Try to find several types locally to demo. There's a lot variation on how they feel and the quality of movement. Then research to see is the manufacturer is known for high quality products.

Also; I've spent many hours on the elliptical, depending on how you workout, you'll most likely have to spend many more hours on it as opposed to the treadmill to burn the same amount of calories. BTW, I have a bad back, too, which is why I spent most of the time on the elliptical and Stair Master.

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What do you guys think about a recumbent bike as opposed to a elliptical trainer?

Such as:
Amazon.com: Schwinn 240 Recumbent Exercise Bike: Sports & Outdoors

I'm still in the research phase.

I do have a bad back and a bulging disc, plus bad arthritis in my knees... so I'm trying to find something low impact (physical body) but that I will still see results on and therefore be inclined to continue to use it

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mike there is a thing that you put your feet in and act like your runnung and it goes back and forth with no impact,i cant remember the name but i tried it once and it was quite a workout after i got the feel how to balance on it...sharky

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something like this...sharky
Best Cardio Machines - Ask Personal Trainers - Best Exercise Nutrition Diet Fitness Information & Advice

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What do you guys think about a recumbent bike as opposed to a elliptical trainer?

Such as:
Amazon.com: Schwinn 240 Recumbent Exercise Bike: Sports & Outdoors

I'm still in the research phase.

I do have a bad back and a bulging disc, plus bad arthritis in my knees... so I'm trying to find something low impact (physical body) but that I will still see results on and therefore be inclined to continue to use it

Mike

Like Slack said: Try to find several types locally to demo.

There isn't much perfect in this world. I checked out the reviews at the link you provided Mike.
It isn't easy to assemble, the least of it really. I did see a number of people comment negatively
about the seat. Since you have to sit on this, I wouldn't buy it without a test drive.


I found sharky's askthetrainer link interesting.

This is a link from the link about the 'seat' (perhaps a little overkill on my part):

Seat

The seat is the most obvious difference between recumbent bikes and their upright counterparts. Since many people who are looking at these recumbent bike reviews have back and posture problems, the quality and ergonomic design of the recumbent bike model's seat is going to be a very important factor helping determine the recumbent bike's rating. In addition to the quality of the seat, the usefulness of the available adjustments of the recumbent bike's seat and backrest is also going to be taken into consideration for all recumbent bike reviews.

Recumbent Bike Reviews Cardio Exercise Bikes Benefits of aerobic machines

This is also interesting from askthetrainer:

{ OK, didn't see this was already mentioned }

Arc Trainers

The arc trainer is another non-impact cardio machine...You step on two platforms and basically swing your legs back and forth...Non-impact machines are the best cardio machines for people with chronic joint problems. The arc trainer can get your heart rate up effectively without putting too much stress on your legs.

One last thing about " recumbent bike as opposed to a elliptical trainer". I was reading today
that ellipticals are better to maintain bone density than recumbent bikes. I don't know if I get the
reasoning there. The elliptical provides weight bearing exercise and the recumbent bike doesn't,
is what is said.

For arthritis try Stop Pain Extra Strength spray or Stop Pain Extra Strength roll on. Don't use too much,
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Yes, its funny - I read the ask the trainer reviews before I saw sharky's post, and I read the same article apparently as you with regards to elliptical machines and bone mass.

I'm leaning towards the elliptical, more time/research needed.

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IMHO, the recumbents are very uncomfortable to use. They put you in an unnatural position for effective cycling. Ironically, the more weight you are carrying up front, the greater the discomfort.

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I'm doing this schedule :

Monday: Running 30 minutes, building it up walk/running program
Tuesday: Swimming 30 minutes, I have a jetstream, it's not a small pool, but it still helps
Wednesday: Running 45 minutes
Thursday: Swimming 30 minutes
Friday: Running 45 minutes
Saterday: Mountainbike (Stevens) for 2 hours or weather permitting my racing bike (Bianchi carbon) 2 hours
Sunday: Resting out

During the day: I have my irons next to my desk. When I'm in a trade or after a trade I feel stressed I push/pull that iron. It works to de-stress. On restaurants I just try to eat less. It's not easy. European restaurants are nothing like American restaurants, here we have 5 to 12 courses meals.

My daily walks with the dog I increased it also longer rounds and I walk faster while doing it.

I'm doing this for 6 weeks now, and I lost 14lbs. I'm back on track and feel fit.

About the foods: When you sport a lot you automatically eat less, it's like your body knows that it needs food but not more than needed because then it has to carry it with you while running.

I have chosen the sports way and for me it's working. Need to start buying new clothes already.

I only chose sports I can do at home. Going to the Gym is such a fuss for me that's not working. I tried that numerous times and after a few times I said: Forget it.

I'm changing, I feel like rambo and people better start calling me it also !!

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My diet is based on the Metabolic Diet by Mauro Di Pasquale. It's not ketogenic but it is a low carb, and is a similar macro nutrient breakdown - moderate fat, high protein diet. I'm grossly simplifying but you retrain your body to use fat as fuel. As you progress on the diet and you gradually reduce caloric levels (mostly coming from cutting fat intake), your body utilizes fat stores for energy. During the week, you follow a low carb, high protein, high fat diet (think beef, bacon, sausage, cheese, whole eggs) then the weekend is high carb, moderate protein, low fat.

Any diet can work - ultimately it's all about creating a caloric deficit - if you're looking to lose fat. And sticking with it. What I like about this way of eating is flexibility - you're able to eat a lot of the foods you love. And carb cravings are fulfilled on the weekends plus a social beer or two isn't a disaster for this diet. Most of all, I'm never hungry and I never feel deprived.


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It has been just about 4 weeks now. I'm still going strong, sticking with it - tracking every meal, watching exactly what I eat and what I buy at the grocery store. Have learned a lot about evil marketing to make it seem like something is healthier when it really isn't.

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Because of my bad back, I'm presently looking into selling my treadmill which is really hard on me, and replacing it with an elliptical trainer. That is my next move.

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Swimming is also a thought if you have a pool or access to one.

I hurt my back a few years ago. It sucks. Found out I have Degenerative Disk Disease. I also get shin splints so I can't do running/jogging for prolonged periods, hah. I sound like such a worn out old man, hah, but I'm only 32. Anyway, the swimming is great. Good workout, good on the back, and invigorating. I try to swim a couple times a week.

Also, don't know if you've already tried this but if not, get an inversion table. I purchased one after I messed up my back and it worked wonders and it's easy to fold up. These days I keep it stored behind the living room couch and when my back acts up, like it does each year after rafting, I take it out and use it and the backpain goes away. It's really great. I use a Teeter. Here's a pic:


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Do you use that to sit at your desk ?

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My diet is based on the Metabolic Diet by Mauro Di Pasquale. It's not ketogenic but it is a low carb, and is a similar macro nutrient breakdown - moderate fat, high protein diet. I'm grossly simplifying but you retrain your body to use fat as fuel. As you progress on the diet and you gradually reduce caloric levels (mostly coming from cutting fat intake), your body utilizes fat stores for energy. During the week, you follow a low carb, high protein, high fat diet (think beef, bacon, sausage, cheese, whole eggs) then the weekend is high carb, moderate protein, low fat.

Any diet can work - ultimately it's all about creating a caloric deficit - if you're looking to lose fat. And sticking with it. What I like about this way of eating is flexibility - you're able to eat a lot of the foods you love. And carb cravings are fulfilled on the weekends plus a social beer or two isn't a disaster for this diet. Most of all, I'm never hungry and I never feel deprived.

When I was a teen I was obsessed with gaining weight since I was so skinny. I tried that diet by Di Pasquale and after a month I felt like I was gonna die, hah. I felt like my insides were rebelling against me. It was horrid. And I grew to hate eating meat for a while. No bueno. Might work for some but for me it just was not happening.

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I don't but if you like to trade upside down I suppose you could. ;p

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Not sure how long ago you're talking, but he wrote about his original theory in an article called the "fat diet" back in 1988. He believed an anabolic state could be achieved and promote muscle building. But the problem most had was the lack of fiber and fat sources were mostly saturated.

The diet has evolved in the 20 years or so since. It's not a "gain weight" but a lose fat/maintain muscle diet (the greatest obstacle in successful dieting). And it's far from unhealthy. My carbs are low but I'm consuming more veggies (most greens are near zero carbs net of fiber) than the average person, and a significant portion of my fats come from fish oil & flax.


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When I was a teen I was obsessed with gaining weight since I was so skinny. I tried that diet by Di Pasquale and after a month I felt like I was gonna die, hah. I felt like my insides were rebelling against me. It was horrid. And I grew to hate eating meat for a while. No bueno. Might work for some but for me it just was not happening.


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Please watch out with eating fish :

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FDA says eating too much fish can be unhealthy

It's supposed to be a healthy alterative to red meat.
But there's a growing concern that eating large amounts of fish can hurt your health.

How much fish is safe for you to eat each week?

About half a pound. The FDA says eating more than 30 pounds of fish per year isn't healthy.

These fish filets aren't as healthy as you think. While fish contains a lot protein and nutrients, the FDA says it also can harbor mercury, a dangerous toxin.

The FDA says pregnant women especially should limit the amount of fish in their diets, since the toxin can hurt brain development.

And while canned tuna is the most popular fish, it's also contains some of the highest levels of mercury.

The amount of canned tuna that's safe for you to eat is based on your body weight.
For example, if you weigh about 125 pounds, you should only be eating one 6-ounce can per week.

Nutritionist John Virgin says thicker steaks of fish, like tuna and swordfish absorb more mercury than smaller fish. "Big fish have lived for a long time and eaten a lot of small fish."

The bottom line here is to eat fish in moderation, remember less than 30 pounds a year.

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