I tried it around '94. After that I never followed it so not sure how it's portrayed now. Could be completely different. At the time that I tried it though, it was clearly marketed as a weight gaining diet. The weight gain would be lean muscle however, and very little to no fat. Not saying it's unhealthy, I've gone back and forth on that in my mind and haven't come to a conclusion. I just know that my experience was not the best, hah.
*Edit* Ah! I just found the picture of the manual that came with it. I remember looking at that and thinking, "Damn, that's a big vein!"
One has to consider mercury ( and perhaps PCB's and dioxin as well, I don't know if there are
other poisons or not ). If one thinks of 'seafood' (ie. not just fish) there are some creatures that
are low in mercury and some, supposedly, that contain no mercury. I can try to find some info if
anyone wants me to try.
The Japanese people are known to eat large amounts of seafood. I never checked out if there was
ever a study of how much mercury they take in and how it has or has not affected their health. I
think this would be helpful in knowing just how bad mercury really is. Mercury is indeed bad stuff, but
the human body can deal with it to an extent. As far as PCB's and dioxin (and other poisons???) I
really don't know.
If you have arthritis these are my 2 suggestions, for what they're worth.
1) Stop Pain Extra Strength
The active ingredient in Stopain is menthol, recognized by the FDA as an analgesic indicated for the temporary relief for minor pains and stiffness of arthritis, muscle aches, strains and simple backaches....
MSM is taken by mouth. I've heard of very high amounts for this product. You can of course consult
your health care professional about MSM. However if you ask him/her about it and the response you get is:
"What is MSM?" you know you're in trouble. They obviously don't know what it is supposed to do, how it
does it, what the side effects are, etc.
Be advised MSM has blood thinning properties from what I've read. (A number of natural supplements do also.)
MSM has been taken in amounts of 45,000 mg a day. That is a lot. One should start off at a lower dose and
increase. A naturopathic physician would probably be the way to go. Apparently Texas, and many other states,
don't have naturopathic physicians. Of course a state bordering yours might.
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Just another update. I've lost 10 lbs now, and am having no problem with the diet. Slow and steady. Getting excited about getting the elliptical machine to help further the process, but realistically it will be a bit before I can buy it. I've spent toooo much money on this house remodel and at some point, I just have to stop spending money! Will revisit it in about 30-60 days.
Headed out for a run after work, 2 miles. Last night had lentil pasta, and leftovers for lunch. Doing a show on March 12th, am aiming to lose 7lbs by then. I'm 195-200 lbs now. Eating less and better. Lots of raw greens and veggies. Cut out soda and fast food and am drinking 2-5 cups of green tea daily. Sliced chicken breast sandwiches for lunch. Vegetarian (or almost) dinner on weeknights. I'm also practicing my contact staff work alot, which is helping my up my caloric consumption. I'm also cycling 2-3 days a week. Running will help more than cycling though.
At my heaviest I was 255lbs, but it wasn't fat. Well, some was. But the majority of the weight was the 2-3 hours I spent in the gym on a daily basis. My arms were bigger than my head. My lowest was 159lbs coming out of bootcamp. Man....sometimes I miss being single....being able to do what you want and when.
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Improved glucose regulation (very favourable for diabetics);
Decreased blood pressure;
Improved sleep patterns and levels of anxiety.
Reduced risk of heart disease.
But recent research shows it helps with mental capacity greatly. In other words exercise makes you smarter.
Also, since the exercise in combination with a healthy diet will accelerate the weight loss vastly, it helps a lot with motivation when you seen the results.
It then creates a positive feedback cycle:
Exercise --> feel better --> feeling better makes it easier to want to exercise ---> exercise --> feel better --> feeling better makes it easier to want to exercise etc etc on and on in a greatly beneficial cycle.
I would recommend you try do minimum 30 mins a day of whatever kind of exercise you can find, while you wait for your eliptical machine.
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As I mentioned before, you could go to a fitness center first and try out their equipment. Sometimes things
look good on paper but don't work out (hee hee) in real life. I've done one or two exercises at home over the years
that shouldn't have caused me any problems of any sort, but they did, so they're abandoned. The elliptical machine
idea might not be a good one. I'm sure you don't want to blow another grand. Anyway, because you're in a big
city, you have Bally and Planet Fitness.
I didn't read the fine print, but I guess Bally has a 7 day free offer. Regardless, if there is a location that is very close to you, you could consider being a member of either Bally or Planet Fitness. Several months
of fees isn't that much. Personally, I wouldn't join a fitness center, it's just an idea, nothing more.
I did suggest walking a number of posts back. I don't know if this bothers your knees or not. If not, 10 minutes
a day, 5 days a week of brisk walking would provide some benefit to you. This is close to the minimum
however, but it is better than nothing. (Just watch out for cars, seriously.)
We purchased an elliptical a few years ago for our exercise room and I had used it several times. Now it just sits there next to the treadmill not being used at all other than one of the kids may use it. It has always killed my left knee. At first I thought that it was something my knees had to get used to, but after several times and it never went away I stopped using it all together. I think it is a restriction on the normal knee movement because I never have the issue when using the treadmill or squatting heavy weight. This has just been my experience.
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These links go to videos of low impact aerobic workouts. No equipment. FREE.
(Be sure that your workout area is safe. No carpets that can cause you to slip.
No stuff on the floor. No chairs around. No children. No pets. etc. etc. etc.)
Even though a woman is doing this workout, I feel it satisfies two
concerns by some posters. It is low impact and aerobic.
There are martial arts that can also be done. Working out alone is
very limited regarding a real life situation of course, since you're just
pretending. The workout can be aerobic however. Some equipment
is also necessary.
I have enclosed 2 videos about Kali. The first is basic and the second
gives the viewer a better idea of what can be done against an adversary.
(Click on 'Watch on YouTube' to play the second video if embedding disabled.)
The aerobic workout by Mariam Horvathova Part 4 gets intense enough at
the 8 minute mark to be useful. As the saying goes "Enter by form. Exit from form."
One can use some aspects of what she does and change others.
Diets and weight loss is big business in North America. My wife is British, and when we go back and visit her family- they eat a ton of pastries, eat full fat butter, drink full fat milk- things that we have ingrained in us here across the pond is bad for us. The thing is- they eat less, and move more. They walk everywhere, they stop at one pastry, the portions are literally half the size.
You don't have to give up any food you like- just eat less of it. This is what I do now and it's worked great. I found this website to be great nosdiet.com and also fatguythin.com. fatguythin.com is especially good- works out once a week- no cardio- and watched what he eats. I got great advice from a wel known trainer once- you lose weight thru diet- you change the way it looks thru weight training.
There is a book, The Joy of Cooking, and since the 1960's, the portion sizes have increased by over 40%. And just from 1996, it has increased over 30%. Quite the dramatic increase and certainly not a healthy one.
Tonight I'm making sushi rice with a homemade spicy sauce, chili oil, seaweed, and soy sauce. I think 10 of these have something like 300 calories and they are very filling. This is one of my favorite foods to eat.
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Honestly Mike, it is really simple. The whole recipe takes about an hour or so, but most of that is due to the rice cooling and rice ball rolling. On top of a great recipe, it is also a lesson in patience and attention to detail.
Here's last nights recipe, mostly
3 cups of Nishiki sushi rice
4 cups of water
2 sheets of seaweed cut in half and then cut into strips
2 tsp of Thai chili oil
Natural soy sauce (not kikkoman or other brand name, we use soy sauce w/ calamansi)
Japanese mayo
1/3 as much Sriracha (rooster on red bottle) as Japanese mayo
4 tsp of rice vinegar, unsweetened
Bowl of water
First, the rice must be washed, ideally until the water is not cloudy at all. Once you start to wash the rice, you'll see what I mean. It'll initially look like the water has turned to milk. Once washed, begin cooking it while covered. For every 1.5 cups of rice use 2 cups of water. For this recipe, I use 3 cups of rice and so, 4 cups of water. Turn the flame on high and keep it there until the rice boils for 2-3 minutes. Turn the heat down to simmering until the water is absorbed by the rice, about the next 15 minutes or so. If the water is absorbed and it cooks a few minutes longer, it won't hurt it. In fact, it'll make the rice ball have a little crunchy texture to it, a bit like panko breading.
Once it is done cooking, put one tsp of rice vinegar spread across rice, splitting it in quarters. So each quarter gets 1 tsp of rice vinegar. Now add the chili oil the same way. Now mix it up with a wooden spatula. To ensure too much rice doesn't stick to the spatula, dip it in the water. Once mixed, let it cool. This can be the longest part of the recipe, but I usually throw it in the freezer for 5-6 minutes to cool it of, instead of the 30-40 minutes it would need just sitting.
While it is cooling, you can make your spicy mayo sauce. I use a small serving dish, much like these: http://www.southwestcrafts.co.uk/images/small%20soup%20-%20small%20serving%20dish.JPG
I mix in 1/3 to 1/4 of the Sriracha (depending on your comfort of spice) to the Japanese mayo. I put the soy sauce in another dish and add wasabi to taste. Now set those aside.
To get the rice into balls like you see in the restaurants takes a bit of practice. Dip your hands in the water prior to each rice ball. I use the amount of rice equivalent to the length of my palm and thick enough that I can wrap my fingers around it. Using the other hand, my thumb goes on one side of the rice ball and my middle finger on the opposite side. Now I gently squeeze and rotate the ball using the hand the rice is sitting in. 3 or 4 complete rotations and the body should be oblong and round on the ends.
Now wrap it with a slice of seaweed. Dip in the sauces and enjoy. Btw, two cups of rice, for me, will make 20-25 balls of rice. And see, not too complicated at all. If you can boil water, you can pretty much make this recipe.
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Speaking of Sushi, one of my very good friends is Japanese- and that is one of our lunch staples. He always gets small portions- and I asked him once "Is that going to fill you up?"-- his response was "I don't eat to get full- I eat to get by". I did some reading- and this seems to be Japanese way of thinking- they don't eat until they are full- they eat just enough to fuel their body. I guess that is why they are one of the healthiest beings on the planet.
I have also read that it takes your brain about 20 minutes to process that it is full- as North American's- we tend to eat until full- I guess this would lead to over-eating.
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As I read advices for loosing weight I would recommend swiming - it is very secure and sparing for your joints. I would be very careful about fast diet, one thing is to loose fat, but other is not destroy your strong-hold body. If you feel only pain in muscles, not crunching bones, then you can try something more effectual - running or lets use rather jogging . If you need some motivation, try to visit this site: Running, Running Maps and Running Routes, Runners Community | MapMyRUN , I became also member of this web and it is perfect tool for motivating myself. You can map a route, after you make it as workout, it will calculate many informations, which shows you how you are doing. They are providing some contests and you can also find some interesting routes around your home. I would combine more activities, than to make only one round about. It is hard to start, but once your pass 1 mile run, you will try 2 miles, etc.. no I am aiming on 20km distance, but I had lot of to do with 15km. And the good feeling will come earlier, if you never run much or you were not good in school in this discipline as I was not. My last advice will be around using running boots. I am big and heavy and using usual sport boots was good only for couple runs, then my knees screamed for a break. Before any activity try to get use for stretch your body.
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I start every day with the exact same breakfast - 3 over-easy eggs with mushrooms, a bowl of oatmeal (not instant) with a cup of mixed berries in it, and a cup o' joe.
The rest of the day is relatively variable, but I find that a stable breakfast is absolutely vital (especially when you live on the west coast and markets open at 6:00am >.<).
As far as exercise goes, for some reason I do my best intellectual work when I haven't worked out recently. I wish it were otherwise, but I think the adrenaline and/or testosterone dulls my edge. For this reason I do my longest workouts over the weekend, and during the week I only work out at night after the day's over.
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This is really interesting about timing workouts.. I have only 2-3 hours time after I came back from work before my trading session begin and I am used to put there around 0,5-1hr workout(run,gym), but then as you say my mind is not in best condition, I feel too much relaxed or hyper-active and I cant find optimal "mood" . I am doing also excersises after I wake up, but it is not so heavy as in afternoon, maybe I could add more activity for morning workouts to have enough time for regenaration or to get my mind back into a good status. It is not so difficult to stay focused in the work as during trading session.
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Past three weeks I have not lost any weight. So much going on, and I am still eating well, I really thought I would have. But haven't. Discouraging.
Diet is same, still not going over - still eating well, even better than before probably - more fruit, less sugar as I am now making my own tea instead of Snapple.
I have stopped eating wheat of any kind((bread,cereal,bars) during the day. I have been doing it now for 2 weeks, and I feel less tired during the day. Like the rest of the guys here I am glued to my desk, and the less I eat food that require more energy to digest the more alert I am. I hope I can stick to that because I just feel great.
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Exercise needs to go along with diet. Don't weight yourself. All it will do is frustrate you. Eat well, drink lots of water and exercise. I Know you are not an exercise guy, but it's part of the deal. If you can swing the cost use a trainer in a gym. It can help with keeping you consistent.
A friend of mine who has lost about 50 pounds in the last year told me that snacking consistently every three hours keeps metabolism up. An apple or a banana every three hours is best because they give you energy. I have not double-checked this for factuality.
I like sandwiches. They have all the ingredients of a balanced meal, that is if you don't load them with meat. I usually ask for my sandwiches heavy on the lettuce and tomato and lighter on the meat. This way you get the carbs from the bread, fiber and nutrients from the veggies and protein from the meat. I use the food pyramid as a reference, I'm not a nutritionist. It doesn't hurt to go to the gym or go for a run every day.
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An update - have now lost 30 lbs. Has been about 3 months since I started the thread and my diet. All I have changed is my food intake, making very careful choices at the store on every single item consumed. Also am eating several small meals instead of one large meal a day.
Now that I have moved into this new house, I plan to move forward with the elliptical or some similar machine after my second hand surgery and recuperation time.
Good for you! If you really want to get in shape, I would advise you to give Tabata intervals a try. It is the best way, I believe, to lose fat and still keep muscle mass intact.
For your guys that trade from Europe, do you use some special diet in order to get the peak performance in the afternoon when there's Wall Street open?
In other words what do you eat for lunch when US traders instead are enjoying their breakfast?
I have abandoned the above diet and gone completely primal.
The changes on a physical and medical level are staggering. The goal is a stable approach to a stable ketosis level that can be sustained. I could write 3 pages on the changes big and small that it has brought. You owe it to yourselves to read it yourself and make an informed decision.
Bee pollen is different if someone wants to try something new.
It can be put into a smoothie, although I've never tried that.
Bee pollen can be sprinkled onto cereal or incorporated into
other foods.
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smoothie
Ingredients
1 cup apple juice, orange juice, or other favorite. Pure juice ONLY
1 banana
1 egg
1 tbsp natural raw honey
1 tbsp bee pollen granules
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smoothie
serves 2
1 cup nut milk (or other milk)
1 cup blueberries (frozen are fine)
1 frozen banana, in 3 or 4 chunks
1 Medjool date, pitted (optional)
1 hunk of fresh ginger, peeled and chopped
1 tsp. bee pollen (to start, work up to 1 Tbsp.)
Directions:
Put everything in a blender and whir it up! Drink immediately.
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Thought I would update this thread.
So this year, I decided to become a vegan. A raw vegan at that, as much as possible. It is easy to hit 80% raw. Going to 100% raw requires more work.
For the last 37 days I have had nothing to eat. I have been on a juice fast (some call it a juice feast). It means that I have been getting all my nutrients, minerals, protein and 100% of my calories from vegetables and fruits. Just the juice. I have lost 37 pounds in 37 days just from this alone (no exercising).
Juicing removes the pulp from your drink, so it requires a lot of vegetables and fruit. I am drinking approximately 2-3 liters of juice a day, and another 1-2 liters of water. To give you an idea, here is how much fruit and vegetables I juice about every two days:
- 4 apples
- 2 oranges
- 2 heads of romaine
- 2 heads of bok choy
- 1/2 bunch of cilantro
- 1/2 bunch of parsley
- 1/2 bunch of watercress
- 1/2 head of celery
- 1 pound carrots
- 3 cucumbers
- 1/2 pineapple
- 2 mangoes
- 2 lemons
- 2 inches of ginger root
The above will make approximately 5 liters of juice, or enough for approximately 2 days. Now I have tried various other fruits and vegetables, but the above are my "staples", the ones I consume daily.
Everything is organic. When consuming this level of fruit and vegetables, you definitely do want to buy only organic because otherwise you are putting quite a large amount of pesticides into your body.
Everyone always asks, how much does it cost? I live in Dallas and shop mainly at Whole Foods. I spend around $100 a week. As spring and summer approach, I can rely more on the Farmers Market and also my own garden, which is going to be quite large this summer now that I am going raw/vegan.
Next question everyone asks is where do you get your protein? Well, I highly recommend you watch the excellent movie "Forks over Knives" which answers this question with tons of fact based information, countless research over decades and millions of people, and not just believe me. But I eat more protein in my diet than most American's on the SAD (standard american diet) that eat meat.
So after I stop juicing (date to be determined in future), I will then be focusing on being at least 80% raw and 20% vegan. What this means:
Raw means no food heated above 118 F. Heating food causes all the minerals and nutrients to be cooked out of the food, leaving it dead and vastly inferior in terms of nutrition for your body. Many of you know that white rice is just brown rice with all the nutrients removed, well this same principle applies. You can read many, many excellent books on the subject.
Example of raw foods: salads, smoothies, juicing, eating fruits, soups, etc. The key is don't buy anything that is on the shelf at the grocery store, as processed food has been robbed of almost all its nutritional value by being processed, pasteurized, boiled to remove bacteria and feces, etc. So you want to make everything yourself. I will use my Vitamix to make my own soups, salad dressings, smoothies, and etc. The soups cannot be over 118 F to be "raw". Nothing can contain dairy or meat. No cheese. No animal by products.
Example of vegan: all of the above, plus you can cook things to whatever temperature you want. Again, no dairy and no meat. But with vegan it is certainly possible to prepare meals that are not healthy for you, so don't be fooled that just because it is vegan means it is healthy. You can fry stuff in coconut oil, you can bake all the nutrients out of your food, etc. So the trick is to keep vegan (non-raw) to 20% of your food intake or less, and to then use restraint when choosing your meals so that they can be cooked but still be healthy. Case in point, there are many vegan-friendly things on the market like Daiya cheese, or Vegenaise mayo. But just because they are vegan doesn't mean they are healthy, so try to stay raw as much as possible and choose carefully what you eat on the vegan portion of your diet.
If you eat 3 meals a day, it is quite easy to be 80% raw by making one of those meals a smoothie, and another meal a large salad and/or soup. For families, it might be easier for dinner to be vegan instead of raw, if the whole family is not participating in your diet/lifestyle.
For snacks, the easiest and best snack is fruit! Have an apple, banana, orange! Have some persimmons, have some dates! If you have 2 minutes, throw it in your Vitamix and make it a smoothie! It will satisfy all cravings for sweetness, and still be excellent for your body!
If you have certain cravings from your past, then don't worry - it is possible to mimic some old favorites like Mac 'n Cheese, Pot Roast, Taco's, Chips and Dip, etc etc etc with a vegan lifestyle. Youtube is your friend and is full of excellent user channels with millions of recipes that are truly fantastic.
I did not become a Vegan for ethical reasons. It doesn't bother me to eat dairy, or animal meat. I made this lifestyle change for health reasons, and I feel better than ever.
I encourage all of you to do some research. If there is a lot of interest I can name some of the books in my library to get you started.
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I could write for hours to discuss everything so far on this journey, but:
- I am not hungry. I am not starving myself. Not at all.
- I have tons more energy from this diet (lifestyle) alone. No other changes.
- I used to have headaches and migraines almost daily (for sure several times a week). All 100% gone with this.
- I was previously on Advair 500, one of the strongest asthma steroids on the market, and was taking it twice daily just to be able to breathe. With this diet change, I am now completely 100% off my Advair.
Many, many more things, but I think diets are similar to trading. There are no shortcuts, it takes a lot of work, a lot of discipline, and a lot of research. This "diet" (it is really not a diet, but a lifestyle choice) requires tremendous amount of work and discipline and willpower, but the result is so incredibly worth it. And it is not like any other "diet" where you are cramming yourself full of things you cannot pronounce that have huge amounts of side effects, stimulants, or that your body cannot absorb.
Highly recommend that if you are wanting to improve your life, you look squarely at your diet.
Whole grain bread naturally made with yeast or better sourdogh (and no dark colouring from sugarsyrups) with butter or a very good margarine with polyunsaturated fatty acids, french cheese or air dried ham, tomatoes, cucumber, carrots and other fresh stuff, egg and some southern european style roasted coffee, made well with not too hot water in a french press or well made FTGOP darjeeling tea, sometimes also muesli with fruits and nuts.
But i have to admit i really LOVE the american style of breakfast, heart attack burgers and bbqing very much, also.
As you might know Mike, you are losing weight because you are not
getting enough calories to maintain your weight. This is fine for the moment as I assume you
are losing the fat (fat is a "reserve supply of energy") you always wanted to. I hope you'll
post every mid-month with a short update. I'm curious to know how you'll feel after that excess
fat is burned off.
I've been blending spinach, broc, carrots, honey, pears, apples, bananas, blueberries, grapes, strawberries for a while now. I drink a little less than half a gallon of this blend every morning. After that I munch on almonds. Move onto oatmeal, beans, pasta, etc. I eat mostly a raw diet but I also eat out for dinner 2-3 times a week. These are usually health orientated restaurants or at least the meal that I order is healthy.
As far as weight gain/loss, it's all about calories in vs calories out. Macronutrient intake is also key in how your body looks.
I went from 145lbs. to 185 lbs. with 12% bf over a span of 3 years. This of course was coupled with weigh training 3-5 days/week.
I then cut down to around 7% at 170 lbs.
That was a lot of work. I'm now at around 170lbs. at 12%, 2 years later.
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Impressive Mike...Kudos.
I was having some gallbladder like pains(I know sitting in front of the screens has not helped my gut pressure over the years) so I was drinking Apple cider vinegar (3 tablespoonfuls in 1 liter),3 liters a day to flush out the system. It helped!
Also concocted a Apple cider with pulp smoothie,drank that for 3-4 days. Lost about 5 pounds with exercise(2 miles on treadmill daily).
Got a history of diabetes in my family among other un savory diseases...at forty something if you dont start taking care chances are something will catch up.
Its all in the diet...go to Sprouts and Whole foods as well,little more bucks but seems to taste and feel better after consumption.
I also take a baby aspirin a day now.
Also on Omega 3..2 caps daily.
Kyolic(garlic) 2 caps daily.
Milk Thistle
Theragram like MVI
Vit E 800 units
CoQ 200mg
Going in for a physical in a few weeks...lovely prostate check time!!
I doubt my testesterone levels are what they used to be either....more suppliments!
If you like milk thistle, you will certainly like NAC.
It's much more effective at cleansing your liver than milk thistle.
This is from personal experiences as well as google lol.
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As far as what type of whole grain bread to eat, the best kind is probably NO GRAIN bread. Starch makes you fat and wheat seems to have some toxicity to humans. Starch turns into sugar. SUGAR IS THE ENEMY. SODAS HAVE NO PLACE IN YOUR DIET. ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD. Sorry, if you don't like that, just keep doing what you are doing and see where it gets you. But what do I know, meet me at the finish line https://cascade.org/ on July 14 if you want to make your case for the typical American diet.
Click on 'ingredients' for more info. This is a very basic simple supplement.
For those out there that aren't going to go the full 10 yards, this could be tried.
It doesn't contain everything however. At least you'll know how you're getting most of
your trace minerals, like: manganese, selenium, zinc and iodine. Iodine (for your
thyroid gland) is easy enough to get in iodized salt, but the others are not easy
to get on a bad/sad diet. Also contains vitamin E, C, etc. etc.
There are many, maybe too many companies out there. Willner has discounts
on some supplement manufacturers. Including Solgar. VRP and Solgar have each
been around for decades. All the other ones I just am not familiar with, even though
I'm sure many have high quality products.
you are one of the guys from the board that I would like to meet. Even when you are totally correct you still manage to get under my skin...that means you are a total jerk or you expose the open nerve with precision.
So...
Last night I actually had nightmares about this thread or I should say about my own diet as it relates to my health and this thread. Indeed I am not 10 feet tall and bullet proof anymore.
I have been competitive and an athlete my entire life but in the last five years I've not just fallen off the wagon, but rolled far enough from the trail that I need help to find my way back.
To those of you that have posted here, I'd like to thank you and ask that you respond with one absolutely "do this" and one absolutely "avoid this". I will start my research and my action based on the input from you guys and track progress here from time to time. Mike please don't start with give up all meat. While I would start down that path an abrupt zero animal diet might cause the planetary rotation to fall out....I will limit progressively based on your recommendations.
Is there any background information that would be helpful?
I've been doing similar things but not with any label on it (forgive the pun, and not suggesting you are lol).
The juice of it feels, for me, to be in the juice.
I've been juicing as much as possible as a way of eating.
Seems the juice is the best way of extracting the minerals and drinking is the best way the body absorbs them.
This is with fruits and also with vegetables.
It's got me so much more aware of not only what I'm eating (drinking) but where the stuff comes from.
I'm a complete nightmare for anyone that's with me in a supermarket,.
"looks what's actually in that...don't you know where it comes from/grown etc..."
As mentioned "Forks over Knives" is a recommended view
and the documentary "Food Inc" (if not already mentioned)
Buy local/organic..indeed grow our own.
Also, I'm almost (nearly there) eating no animal products, diary or meat.
I think it's something that you just can't realize the effect of until it's done, and for a period long enough to get all the rubbish out of us.
Anyway, I reiterate @wldmans thanks for all that's been posted.
Here are two short films that might be of interest.
PS: btw wldman I'm not sure if @Zondor is from around these parts.(planet earth that is)
..or at least his tailor isn't..
Carolyn Steel "How Food Shapes Our Cities"
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I am not interested in any labels. Being a vegan, raw foodist, fruitarian, whatever -- it all just means being healthy and really caring about what you eat. It becomes a way of life over time and what you initially craved (meat) turns in to "why would I want to eat this?". It's not that you can't, it's more of a why would you.
As for how to start, I think juicing is an excellent way. You can get a Breville juicer locally or online pretty cheap, and while not the best as for maintaining nutrients and eliminating oxidation, these centrifugal juicers are quick and easy. That is important when starting.
Then go to your local Whole Foods or Farmers Market where you can buy organic food, and load up on things from my list. Pick fruits that you generally like. In the beginning, each drink can be 50/50 (fruit/vegetable) to help you get it down. Over time, you can reduce this to 20/80 (fruit/vegetable) or even 0/100. I sometimes have a high fruit content drink in the morning if I want some extra energy. It is up to you.
Drink 32 ounces (1 liter) at a time or so, because of the effort involved in juicing you don't want to be doing it 5 times a day. You need to drink the juice immediately after creating it, do not store it in the fridge or it will essential die and lose its nutritional value. Remember, you are eating live foods for a reason.
You can find a million videos on YouTube to help you get started with juicing recipes and how-to's.
If juicing doesn't appeal to you, then I suggest just grabbing a bunch of fruit and replacing 1 or 2 meals a day with fruit, or at least replacing all snacks each day with fruit. You cannot eat too much fruit. Do not worry about sugar in fruit, you will be absolutely fine. Remember, for every meal you replace with fruit, you will be eating that much healthier if you were to instead have something fried in oil, processed, pasteurized, etc.
A lot of people prefer to have mono meals, where the meal consists of one item only. Ten mango's for dinner, for example. This does not appeal to me so much for anything other than snacks, so I would suggest just keep it simple and start fixing enormous salads with all kinds of vegetables in them, and make your own salad dressing in your blender. It is easy, and lots of recipes on YouTube. You can also make your own soup from living vegetables, non-processed, non-pasteurized, and so amazingly good for you. You can do it in 3-4 minutes in a Vitamix including making it hot (the Vitamix heats it up while blending since the blades move so fast).
So just think, if you tell yourself you will have a big salad daily, and have home made soup from scratch every other day, replace your snacks with fruit, and juice your breakfast every other day, you are already living a mostly vegan or raw foodist lifestyle!
The first week is always the hardest if you make major changes. It's psychological. You have cravings, even though you aren't hungry. So while you could choose a small target of 1-week to do this, just bear in mind that is the hardest week. So I would go for 2-week minimum commitment if you choose to do a juice fast for example. I lost 20 pounds in 14 days, so if you are doing it to lose weight, you will be motivated to stick with it.
If you do go the fast route, read up on how to break a fast. You don't just start back with your old diet. You need to go slow (4-6 meals of very simple and easy to digest food), depending on the length of your fast.
I went to your profile page wldman. I can see from your photo that you should
be taking weight loss seriously and I can see from your post that you wish to.
Personally, speaking from semi-knowing what I'm talking about standpoint, I'd say you should
get into a exercise program. I'd say brisk walking, not jogging/running, for the foreseeable future.
I don't know if you read my post of 2011 with the link about low fat cuts of meat so it's here now:
That basic supplement I just mentioned, Extend One.
I also posted this last year:
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There is a list of foods that apparently
you can eat as much of them as you want and never gain weight. This is probably true. They must
be eaten raw and uncooked. Of course you can't live off these foods. It's just something that may
prove helpful.
Alfalfa sprouts
Bell peppers
Bok hoy
Cabbage
Chicory
Celery
Chinesecabbage
Cucumber
Endive
Escarole
Lettuce
Parsley
Radishes
Spinach
Turnips
Watercress (avoid, due to parasites S.S.,{ never checked out the others on the list})
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As far as information is concerned. One hardly knows where to begin. Mike certainly has
given you some good tips. From the psychological standpoint since I think changing your
diet will be extremely hard for you, I'd say to plan on Sundays (or whatever day) as being
a day to eat what you want. This doesn't help physically, but it should help psychologically.
Maybe you've already read all this from me, don't know, but I hope something above helps.
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I saw/listened to it Mike. There's so much out there regarding low fat cooking.
Maybe wldman and his wife could learn how to cook healthier together. If he is
in this alone and the wife and kids are doing their own thing I suspect it would
be hard for him.
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Yes, a good movie to get you started. If you need hand holding they also have their "Reboot" program you can join, but it is really quite simple and you can find tons of recipes online or on youtube to get you going and learn about all the different fruit and vegetables to juice. Try to include a wide variety of vegetables and fruits, always eat (drink) multiple colors of fruits and vegetables and avoid having the same thing every juice so you get the widest benefit.
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Watercress is safe. I juice a large amount with every drink. I buy everything from Whole Foods and buy organic, or will grow my own (as weather improves in a couple months). But I couldn't find anyone that said Watercress is not safe.
Very interesing. I'm very curious why you've choosen this combination
of fruits and vegetables?
Is there any good book or website about a good mix of fruits and vegetables?
I quess the mix must be balanced so you will get all needed minerals and vitamins etc
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It's just by taste. I started out referencing other recipes. You can just YouTube "juicing recipes" to find a bunch, or google that. I then adjusted to taste.
I find a little lemon in each drink (1-2 lemons) helps with the taste. In some drinks though it is not a good combo, so you will use none.
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No. That was just roughly what I use in a 2 day period.
Here are some typical drinks:
4 oranges
1 lb carrots
Makes 1 liter
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6 apples
2 lemons
1 inch ginger root
half head celery or half head parsley
Makes 1 liter
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1/2 pineapple
1 mango
1 apple
Half head spinach or half head romaine or half head bok choy
1/3rd bunch watercress
1/3rd bunch parsley
1/3rd bunch wheatgrass
Makes 1 liter
I have a vid of Linda Raschke talking how important it is to eat right and how it helps to be ready for your trading day. I can post it or perhaps you guys have seen it already. Seems I am far behind the 8 ball in this forum. I have a lot of catching up to do..LOL
I haven't read the entire thread but the last few pages we're enough to make me speak up on this food issue.
I, as a proud American eat lots of beef and pork and enjoy every bit of it.....I'm not a carrot cruncher (though I do like salads)or as my wifes grandmother would say, don't feed me grass I'm not a cow.
I'm only about 10lbs to fat which I will shed after the winter hibernation.....am in perfect health...don't even wear glasses.
I'm not knocking the vegan stuff but,...why ?
Is it a long term heart health thing or cholesterol or what.....I come from a long line of meat eaters that lived in to thier 80s...that's good enough for me.
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For protein basics I would start with Forks Over Knives, a documentary film loaded with case studies. It is similar in format to Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead but addresses meat protein vs plant protein.
Here are some people I follow on YouTube. Mix of recipes and education:
New Year resolution you say??? Mine was to eat MORE meat, Smoke MORE cigars, and drink more booze. NO ONE ever sticks "I'll go to the gym more" I am just a realist is all. I lost 35 pounds of fat off my stomach in 2006 before I went Europe for 2 months. I never touched a weight, and only did cardio in my AT zone. I still to this day have a 32 waist and I am 50.
I'd say if you wanna lose weight figure out what your BMI is and what your daily caloric intake should be for you ht and wt and then cut your calories by 500. Trust me when I say you will lose weight. If you wanna lose FAT do cardio ONLY in your AT zone for 20 minute every day till you get what you want.
Fasciola hepatica, also known as the common liver fluke or sheep liver fluke, is a parasitic flatworm of the class Trematoda, phylum Platyhelminthes that infects the livers of various mammals, including humans.
Mike has lost a lot of weight, that is fat. You might try picking up a 35 pound weight,
then imagine what it would be like to have that strapped to your body 24/7.
A very good program for some Yoga and meditation if anyone is interested. I have just started btw.
Hope you dont mind me putting this here Mike....
Did the first 2 weeks(lessons) tonight ...feel great after doing the Asanas(postures).
The alternate nostril breathing is very easy....very conducive to a focus mind....reflective mind.
I think traders would love this as part of their morning startup routine.
Apparently you'd need >2000 calories a day to maintain your weight (guess that's obvious).
The actual number depends upon a number of factors, height, age, activity level, gender...maybe
others but I don't know off hand.
It is possible to be too thin. This might be something to think about down the road.
Anorexia nervosa is an eating disorder characterized by excessive weight loss, and irrational fear of gaining weight and distorted body self-perception. (from wikipedia)
I've heard of weight tables but I've also heard they are incorrect. One would take
ones gender and height and you'd get a healthy weight range of where you're supposed to
be at.
Don't know if you've said what weight is your target weight.
Don't know if you've said what waistline is your target waistline.
This is about body fat percentage which might be useful.
I don't recall if you've mentioned how much protein you are getting in a day. I'm not even going to guess
how much a man needs given whatever height, age, activity level. I think that it's generally
believed that protein needs increase when one starts on a body building regimen. The amounts
I've heard in this matter are sometimes, in my opinion, way too high.
Mike, if you've covered all this already and/or you're too busy, don't bother to reply, it's ok.
I have not been following this thread.
I thought it was a 'cartoon' thread and avoided it.
After seeing the multiple page link I decided to check it out.
I'm not a vegan...
However, I have been a juicer for a while.
My experience is that it is AMAZING!!!
I am NOT on a diet.
Diets don't work.
But juicing is just a better way to eat.
I have more energy than any 62 year old person I know.
When I make my daily juice I simply don't get hungry.
You will find that the juice is so nutritionally complete that your body quits craving the crap you are used to eating.
One thing I have found that makes a difference for me is the type of juicer.
I use a Tribest Solostar.
There are several videos of this and similar types on YouTube.
The Solostar costs about $250 for the electric model.
I also have the manual Tribest ZStar (non-electric hand crank).
I've used and still have several blenders/juicers.
The high speed juicers seem to change the chemical makeup of the juice because of the heat from the speed. The 'slow' juicers give a better quality juice imo.
The manual juicer is easy to transport and I use it primarily at my office and the electric one at my home.
I know that many of you will never try juicing... (that is sad).
'You are what you eat' and your body is a growing machine that runs best with nutritional inputs and not all the manufactured and processed products.
At the least, start READING the labels of what you are putting into your body.
You will soon see that most of the labels show how much c-wrap you are buying.
P.S. Don't get caught up in the not getting enough protein issue. Several studies have shown that protein and cancer have some significant connections. A juice/vegetable rich diet has all the protein your body needs.
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Not exactly about diet, but I came across this recently.
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Xenoestrogen
Xenoestrogens are a type of xenohormone that imitates estrogen. They are widely used industrial compounds such as PCB, BPA and Phthalates, that have estrogenic effects on a living organism even though they differ chemically from the naturally occurring estrogenic substances internally produced by the endocrine system of the organism. Their potential ecological and human health impact is currently under extensive study by many scientific institutions and independent researchers.
Bisphenol A has been known to be leached from the plastic lining of canned foods and polycarbonate plastics, especially those cleaned with harsh detergents or that contain acidic or high-temperature liquids. BPA is an ingredient in the internal coating of metal food and beverage cans used to protect the food from direct contact with the can. A recent Health Canada study found that the majority of canned soft drinks it tested had low, but measurable levels of bisphenol A. Furthermore, a study conducted by the University of Texas School of Public Health in 2010, found BPA in 63 of 105 samples of fresh and canned foods, foods sold in plastic packaging, and in cat and dog foods in cans and plastic packaging. This included fresh turkey, canned green beans, and canned infant formula. While most human exposure is through diet, exposure can also occur through air and through skin absorption.
I found as in diets and trading, you need discipline. The two go hand in hand and you need to stay focused on both. It's easy to eat junk food while in front of the computer and gain weight. I found that taking a break for a couple of minutes or just standing up and stretching does wonders.
My take on it, is that discipline (ie. will power) can decrease as taste increases.
It is simple to eat healthy. One example is to just eat a banana. Real simple.
But to eat a somewhat typical
American meal that is also healthy takes time to learn. There are certain low fat cuts
of beef as I posted a while back. One would have to know what they are. Then there
is the cooking and seasoning. You might want a side dish, etc. etc.
Anyone that really likes food is going to have a hard time with will power unless
the food tastes pretty darn good.
Sayings about food and eating if you have time to kill. Some are amusing. Nothing important though.
Those who forget the pasta are condemned to reheat it. ~Author Unknown
Red meat is not bad for you. Now blue-green meat, that’s bad for you! ~Tommy Smothers
Hey yogurt, if you're so cultured, how come I never see you at the opera? ~Attributed to Stephen Colbert
You can find your way across this country using burger joints the way a navigator uses stars. ~Charles Kuralt
Recipe: A series of step-by-step instructions for preparing ingredients you forgot to buy, in utensils you don't own, to make a dish the dog wouldn't eat. ~Author Unknown
If you ate pasta and antipasto, would you still be hungry? ~Author Unknown
Pre-heat the oven? Really? If I was the sort of person who planned ahead, I wouldn't be eating this Totino's Party Pizza in the first place. ~Adam Peterson
Soup is just a way of screwing you out of a meal. ~Jay Leno
More than 1000 Americans die on average each day because of it.
(That's 100, right? No it's 1000.)
This isn't a 'be like me' post. I don't eat really healthy or exercise that much.
I just want those not in the choir to get some understanding of this disease.
What you personally do with it is up to you. (Just imagine what a hassle it
would be to have to deal with all this. Less time for trading. Less money.)
Cardiovascular disease or heart disease is a class of diseases that involve the heart or blood vessels (arteries and veins).
By the time that heart problems are detected, the underlying cause (atherosclerosis) is usually quite advanced, having progressed for decades. There is therefore increased emphasis on preventing atherosclerosis by modifying risk factors, such as healthy eating, exercise, and avoidance of smoking.
In 2010, coronary heart disease alone was projected to cost the United States $108.9 billion.3 This total includes the cost of health care services, medications, and lost productivity.
My lowest was 159lbs coming out of bootcamp. Man....sometimes I miss being single....being able to do what you want and when.
