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Thought I would update this thread.

So this year, I decided to become a vegan. A raw vegan at that, as much as possible. It is easy to hit 80% raw. Going to 100% raw requires more work.

For the last 37 days I have had nothing to eat. I have been on a juice fast (some call it a juice feast). It means that I have been getting all my nutrients, minerals, protein and 100% of my calories from vegetables and fruits. Just the juice. I have lost 37 pounds in 37 days just from this alone (no exercising).

Juicing removes the pulp from your drink, so it requires a lot of vegetables and fruit. I am drinking approximately 2-3 liters of juice a day, and another 1-2 liters of water. To give you an idea, here is how much fruit and vegetables I juice about every two days:

- 4 apples
- 2 oranges
- 2 heads of romaine
- 2 heads of bok choy
- 1/2 bunch of cilantro
- 1/2 bunch of parsley
- 1/2 bunch of watercress
- 1/2 head of celery
- 1 pound carrots
- 3 cucumbers
- 1/2 pineapple
- 2 mangoes
- 2 lemons
- 2 inches of ginger root

The above will make approximately 5 liters of juice, or enough for approximately 2 days. Now I have tried various other fruits and vegetables, but the above are my "staples", the ones I consume daily.

Everything is organic. When consuming this level of fruit and vegetables, you definitely do want to buy only organic because otherwise you are putting quite a large amount of pesticides into your body.

Everyone always asks, how much does it cost? I live in Dallas and shop mainly at Whole Foods. I spend around $100 a week. As spring and summer approach, I can rely more on the Farmers Market and also my own garden, which is going to be quite large this summer now that I am going raw/vegan.

Next question everyone asks is where do you get your protein? Well, I highly recommend you watch the excellent movie "Forks over Knives" which answers this question with tons of fact based information, countless research over decades and millions of people, and not just believe me. But I eat more protein in my diet than most American's on the SAD (standard american diet) that eat meat.

So after I stop juicing (date to be determined in future), I will then be focusing on being at least 80% raw and 20% vegan. What this means:

Raw means no food heated above 118 F. Heating food causes all the minerals and nutrients to be cooked out of the food, leaving it dead and vastly inferior in terms of nutrition for your body. Many of you know that white rice is just brown rice with all the nutrients removed, well this same principle applies. You can read many, many excellent books on the subject.

Example of raw foods: salads, smoothies, juicing, eating fruits, soups, etc. The key is don't buy anything that is on the shelf at the grocery store, as processed food has been robbed of almost all its nutritional value by being processed, pasteurized, boiled to remove bacteria and feces, etc. So you want to make everything yourself. I will use my Vitamix to make my own soups, salad dressings, smoothies, and etc. The soups cannot be over 118 F to be "raw". Nothing can contain dairy or meat. No cheese. No animal by products.

Example of vegan: all of the above, plus you can cook things to whatever temperature you want. Again, no dairy and no meat. But with vegan it is certainly possible to prepare meals that are not healthy for you, so don't be fooled that just because it is vegan means it is healthy. You can fry stuff in coconut oil, you can bake all the nutrients out of your food, etc. So the trick is to keep vegan (non-raw) to 20% of your food intake or less, and to then use restraint when choosing your meals so that they can be cooked but still be healthy. Case in point, there are many vegan-friendly things on the market like Daiya cheese, or Vegenaise mayo. But just because they are vegan doesn't mean they are healthy, so try to stay raw as much as possible and choose carefully what you eat on the vegan portion of your diet.

If you eat 3 meals a day, it is quite easy to be 80% raw by making one of those meals a smoothie, and another meal a large salad and/or soup. For families, it might be easier for dinner to be vegan instead of raw, if the whole family is not participating in your diet/lifestyle.

For snacks, the easiest and best snack is fruit! Have an apple, banana, orange! Have some persimmons, have some dates! If you have 2 minutes, throw it in your Vitamix and make it a smoothie! It will satisfy all cravings for sweetness, and still be excellent for your body!

If you have certain cravings from your past, then don't worry - it is possible to mimic some old favorites like Mac 'n Cheese, Pot Roast, Taco's, Chips and Dip, etc etc etc with a vegan lifestyle. Youtube is your friend and is full of excellent user channels with millions of recipes that are truly fantastic.

I did not become a Vegan for ethical reasons. It doesn't bother me to eat dairy, or animal meat. I made this lifestyle change for health reasons, and I feel better than ever.

I encourage all of you to do some research. If there is a lot of interest I can name some of the books in my library to get you started.

Mike

Very interesting info Mike, thanks.

I've been doing similar things but not with any label on it (forgive the pun, and not suggesting you are lol).
The juice of it feels, for me, to be in the juice.
I've been juicing as much as possible as a way of eating.
Seems the juice is the best way of extracting the minerals and drinking is the best way the body absorbs them.

This is with fruits and also with vegetables.

It's got me so much more aware of not only what I'm eating (drinking) but where the stuff comes from.
I'm a complete nightmare for anyone that's with me in a supermarket,.
"looks what's actually in that...don't you know where it comes from/grown etc..."

As mentioned "Forks over Knives" is a recommended view
and the documentary "Food Inc" (if not already mentioned)

Buy local/organic..indeed grow our own.

Also, I'm almost (nearly there) eating no animal products, diary or meat.

I think it's something that you just can't realize the effect of until it's done, and for a period long enough to get all the rubbish out of us.

Anyway, I reiterate @wldmans thanks for all that's been posted.

Here are two short films that might be of interest.

PS: btw wldman I'm not sure if @Zondor is from around these parts.(planet earth that is)
..or at least his tailor isn't..


Carolyn Steel "How Food Shapes Our Cities"


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To those of you that have posted here, I'd like to thank you and ask that you respond with one absolutely "do this" and one absolutely "avoid this".

I am not interested in any labels. Being a vegan, raw foodist, fruitarian, whatever -- it all just means being healthy and really caring about what you eat. It becomes a way of life over time and what you initially craved (meat) turns in to "why would I want to eat this?". It's not that you can't, it's more of a why would you.

As for how to start, I think juicing is an excellent way. You can get a Breville juicer locally or online pretty cheap, and while not the best as for maintaining nutrients and eliminating oxidation, these centrifugal juicers are quick and easy. That is important when starting.

Then go to your local Whole Foods or Farmers Market where you can buy organic food, and load up on things from my list. Pick fruits that you generally like. In the beginning, each drink can be 50/50 (fruit/vegetable) to help you get it down. Over time, you can reduce this to 20/80 (fruit/vegetable) or even 0/100. I sometimes have a high fruit content drink in the morning if I want some extra energy. It is up to you.

Drink 32 ounces (1 liter) at a time or so, because of the effort involved in juicing you don't want to be doing it 5 times a day. You need to drink the juice immediately after creating it, do not store it in the fridge or it will essential die and lose its nutritional value. Remember, you are eating live foods for a reason.

You can find a million videos on YouTube to help you get started with juicing recipes and how-to's.

If juicing doesn't appeal to you, then I suggest just grabbing a bunch of fruit and replacing 1 or 2 meals a day with fruit, or at least replacing all snacks each day with fruit. You cannot eat too much fruit. Do not worry about sugar in fruit, you will be absolutely fine. Remember, for every meal you replace with fruit, you will be eating that much healthier if you were to instead have something fried in oil, processed, pasteurized, etc.

A lot of people prefer to have mono meals, where the meal consists of one item only. Ten mango's for dinner, for example. This does not appeal to me so much for anything other than snacks, so I would suggest just keep it simple and start fixing enormous salads with all kinds of vegetables in them, and make your own salad dressing in your blender. It is easy, and lots of recipes on YouTube. You can also make your own soup from living vegetables, non-processed, non-pasteurized, and so amazingly good for you. You can do it in 3-4 minutes in a Vitamix including making it hot (the Vitamix heats it up while blending since the blades move so fast).

So just think, if you tell yourself you will have a big salad daily, and have home made soup from scratch every other day, replace your snacks with fruit, and juice your breakfast every other day, you are already living a mostly vegan or raw foodist lifestyle!

The first week is always the hardest if you make major changes. It's psychological. You have cravings, even though you aren't hungry. So while you could choose a small target of 1-week to do this, just bear in mind that is the hardest week. So I would go for 2-week minimum commitment if you choose to do a juice fast for example. I lost 20 pounds in 14 days, so if you are doing it to lose weight, you will be motivated to stick with it.

If you do go the fast route, read up on how to break a fast. You don't just start back with your old diet. You need to go slow (4-6 meals of very simple and easy to digest food), depending on the length of your fast.

Mike

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"...I need help to find my way back."

"...don't start with give up all meat.

Is there any background information that would be helpful?

I went to your profile page wldman. I can see from your photo that you should
be taking weight loss seriously and I can see from your post that you wish to.

Personally, speaking from semi-knowing what I'm talking about standpoint, I'd say you should
get into a exercise program. I'd say brisk walking, not jogging/running, for the foreseeable future.

I don't know if you read my post of 2011 with the link about low fat cuts of meat so it's here now:

Lean Beef

Also, pork tenderloin is low fat.

That basic supplement I just mentioned, Extend One.

I also posted this last year:
========================================================
There is a list of foods that apparently
you can eat as much of them as you want and never gain weight. This is probably true. They must
be eaten raw and uncooked. Of course you can't live off these foods. It's just something that may
prove helpful.


Alfalfa sprouts
Bell peppers
Bok hoy
Cabbage
Chicory
Celery
Chinesecabbage
Cucumber
Endive
Escarole
Lettuce
Parsley
Radishes
Spinach
Turnips
Watercress (avoid, due to parasites S.S.,{ never checked out the others on the list})


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As far as information is concerned. One hardly knows where to begin. Mike certainly has
given you some good tips. From the psychological standpoint since I think changing your
diet will be extremely hard for you, I'd say to plan on Sundays (or whatever day) as being
a day to eat what you want. This doesn't help physically, but it should help psychologically.

Maybe you've already read all this from me, don't know, but I hope something above helps.

- Stephen

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I saw/listened to it Mike. There's so much out there regarding low fat cooking.
Maybe wldman and his wife could learn how to cook healthier together. If he is
in this alone and the wife and kids are doing their own thing I suspect it would
be hard for him.

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I have lost 37 pounds in 37 days just from this alone (no exercising).

I made this lifestyle change for health reasons, and I feel better than ever.

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Hey Mike,

Did you do something similar to this?

Fat Sick and Nearly Dead | a Joe Cross Film

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Hey Mike,

Did you do something similar to this?

Fat Sick and Nearly Dead | a Joe Cross Film

Yes, a good movie to get you started. If you need hand holding they also have their "Reboot" program you can join, but it is really quite simple and you can find tons of recipes online or on youtube to get you going and learn about all the different fruit and vegetables to juice. Try to include a wide variety of vegetables and fruits, always eat (drink) multiple colors of fruits and vegetables and avoid having the same thing every juice so you get the widest benefit.

Mike

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Watercress (avoid, due to parasites S.S.,{ never checked out the others on the list})

Watercress is safe. I juice a large amount with every drink. I buy everything from Whole Foods and buy organic, or will grow my own (as weather improves in a couple months). But I couldn't find anyone that said Watercress is not safe.

Watercress Juice | The Juice Nut

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