On speaking English correctly... - Off-Topic | futures io social day trading
futures io futures trading


On speaking English correctly...
Updated: Views / Replies:2,207 / 15
Created: by trendisyourfriend Attachments:0

Welcome to futures io.

(If you already have an account, login at the top of the page)

futures io is the largest futures trading community on the planet, with over 90,000 members. At futures io, our goal has always been and always will be to create a friendly, positive, forward-thinking community where members can openly share and discuss everything the world of trading has to offer. The community is one of the friendliest you will find on any subject, with members going out of their way to help others. Some of the primary differences between futures io and other trading sites revolve around the standards of our community. Those standards include a code of conduct for our members, as well as extremely high standards that govern which partners we do business with, and which products or services we recommend to our members.

At futures io, our focus is on quality education. No hype, gimmicks, or secret sauce. The truth is: trading is hard. To succeed, you need to surround yourself with the right support system, educational content, and trading mentors – all of which you can find on futures io, utilizing our social trading environment.

With futures io, you can find honest trading reviews on brokers, trading rooms, indicator packages, trading strategies, and much more. Our trading review process is highly moderated to ensure that only genuine users are allowed, so you don’t need to worry about fake reviews.

We are fundamentally different than most other trading sites:
  • We are here to help. Just let us know what you need.
  • We work extremely hard to keep things positive in our community.
  • We do not tolerate rude behavior, trolling, or vendors advertising in posts.
  • We firmly believe in and encourage sharing. The holy grail is within you, we can help you find it.
  • We expect our members to participate and become a part of the community. Help yourself by helping others.

You'll need to register in order to view the content of the threads and start contributing to our community.  It's free and simple.

-- Big Mike, Site Administrator

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 

On speaking English correctly...

  #1 (permalink)
Elite Member
Quebec
 
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader wt Rancho Dinero's profiling tools
Broker/Data: Stage 5 trading/AMP/CQG
Favorite Futures: ES, NQ, YM
 
trendisyourfriend's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,697 since Oct 2009
Thanks: 3,041 given, 4,497 received

On speaking English correctly...

I have a question (in fact many)...

Should i say "Bouncing off of something" or just "Bouncing off something"


Should i say...

bouncing off of the wall or bouncing off the wall

bouncing off of a key support or bouncing off a key support.

What's the correct form ?

Reply With Quote
 
  #2 (permalink)
CL Assassin
Near Dallas, Texas, US
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: NinjaTrader
Broker/Data: ZenFire
Favorite Futures: CL
 
Gary's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,070 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 504 given, 2,230 received


trendisyourfriend View Post
I have a question (in fact many)...

Should i say "Bouncing off of something" or just "Bouncing off something"

Should i say...

bouncing off of the wall or bouncing off the wall

bouncing off of a key support or bouncing off a key support.

What's the correct form ?

Hey Friend,

I think either is okay.

I personally would use bouncing off something. It is less typing.

Any English teachers in the house?

Gary

Reply With Quote
 
  #3 (permalink)
Sharpening mental edge
the congo
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: North sea oil rig
Favorite Futures: Cl
 
rassi's Avatar
 
Posts: 831 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 1,165 given, 936 received
Forum Reputation: Legendary



trendisyourfriend View Post
I have a question (in fact many)...

Should i say "Bouncing off of something" or just "Bouncing off something"


Should i say...

bouncing off of the wall or bouncing off the wall

bouncing off of a key support or bouncing off a key support.

What's the correct form ?

Bouncing off is the correct one!

Reply With Quote
The following 2 users say Thank You to rassi for this post:
 
  #4 (permalink)
Elite Member
Berlin, Europe
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: NinjaTrader, MultiCharts
Broker/Data: Interactive Brokers
Favorite Futures: Keyboard
 
Fat Tails's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,653 since Mar 2010
Thanks: 4,226 given, 25,601 received
Forum Reputation: Legendary


trendisyourfriend View Post
I have a question (in fact many)...

Should i say "Bouncing off of something" or just "Bouncing off something"


Should i say...

bouncing off of the wall or bouncing off the wall

bouncing off of a key support or bouncing off a key support.

What's the correct form ?


Not an easy question, and I do not know the answer, but I have an explanation available, which satisfies my needs.

This is a dead cat bounce:

Please register on futures.io to view futures trading content such as post attachment(s), image(s), and screenshot(s).


As you can see, the cat bounces off support. This is called the bouncing off of a cat. If you consider that the cat is the subject that bounces and the support line is object or the counterpart of the cat to bounce, then

-> after "off" you expect the object required for the cat to bounce
-> after "of" you expect the cat itself

Lucky enough, the cat bounces only once, so the cat does not need to understand the difference any more.

Now, if I google "to bounce off of", I find fewer results than for "bouncing off of". So I tend to think that "to bounce off of something" is false English, although widely used. The correct form would be "to bounce off something", so your question can be answered: "The cat bounces off key support." would be correct.

The "bouncing off of something" requires that bouncing be used as a noun rather than a verb.


Last edited by Fat Tails; December 1st, 2010 at 06:24 PM.
Reply With Quote
 
  #5 (permalink)
Elite Member
Quebec
 
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader wt Rancho Dinero's profiling tools
Broker/Data: Stage 5 trading/AMP/CQG
Favorite Futures: ES, NQ, YM
 
trendisyourfriend's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,697 since Oct 2009
Thanks: 3,041 given, 4,497 received


Fat Tails View Post
Not an easy question, and I do not know the answer, but I have an explanation available, which satisfies my needs.

This is a dead cat bounce:

Please register on futures.io to view futures trading content such as post attachment(s), image(s), and screenshot(s).


As you can see, the cat bounces off support. This is called the bouncing off of a cat. If you consider that the cat is the subject that bounces and the support line is object or the counterpart of the cat to bounce, then

-> after "off" you expect the object required for the cat to bounce
-> after "of" you expect the cat itself

Lucky enough, the cat bounces only once, so the cat does not need to understand the difference any more.

That makes sense and very funny way to explain it.

So if i take your 'script', i could say bouncing off support of price

you expect the object required for the price to bounce (support)
you expect the price itself

Reply With Quote
 
  #6 (permalink)
Sharpening mental edge
the congo
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: North sea oil rig
Favorite Futures: Cl
 
rassi's Avatar
 
Posts: 831 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 1,165 given, 936 received
Forum Reputation: Legendary


Fat Tails View Post
Not an easy question, and I do not know the answer, but I have an explanation available, which satisfies my needs.

This is a dead cat bounce:

Please register on futures.io to view futures trading content such as post attachment(s), image(s), and screenshot(s).


As you can see, the cat bounces off support. This is called the bouncing off of a cat. If you consider that the cat is the subject that bounces and the support line is object or the counterpart of the cat to bounce, then

-> after "off" you expect the object required for the cat to bounce
-> after "of" you expect the cat itself

Lucky enough, the cat bounces only once, so the cat does not need to understand the difference any more.

Errr.....wtf?

Reply With Quote
 
  #7 (permalink)
Membership Revoked
 
Futures Experience: Beginner
 
Posts: 1,081 since May 2010
Thanks: 2,092 given, 595 received

I love this thread, maybe our USA friends can help us speak better!!!

(Still, the best way to learn a language is to find a girlfriend IMHO !!)

Reply With Quote
 
  #8 (permalink)
Elite Member
Berlin, Europe
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: NinjaTrader, MultiCharts
Broker/Data: Interactive Brokers
Favorite Futures: Keyboard
 
Fat Tails's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,653 since Mar 2010
Thanks: 4,226 given, 25,601 received
Forum Reputation: Legendary

Don't read this, please!


MetalTrade View Post
I love this thread, maybe our USA friends can help us speak better!!!

(Still, the best way to learn a language is to find a girlfriend IMHO !!)


Absolument, pourquoi penses-tu que quelques parmi nous parlent plusieurs langues? Mais ta proposition ne marche pas toujours:

There is an old saying: To be happy in life you need an English home, an American salary, a Japanese wife and a Chinese cook. Now, I don't dare to continue to write this in English....

Dans la réalité tu auras une maison japonaise, un salaire chinois, une femme américaine et un cuisinier anglais. Que Dieu et surtout les Américaines me pardonnent!

Reply With Quote
The following 5 users say Thank You to Fat Tails for this post:
 
  #9 (permalink)
Elite Member
Massachusetts (USA)
 
Futures Experience: None
Platform: NinjaTrader
Favorite Futures: YM
 
stephenszpak's Avatar
 
Posts: 778 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 144 given, 358 received

You'll need to know American idioms too. Like how to describe
and unlikely event to happen. "Slim chance." Of course
"Fat chance." will also work, wait...ok that's strange. Anyway
here are a number of idioms.

The link is just for those that start with 'A':

A American Expressions and American Idioms - What does A mean?


Click on whatever letter you want.
Not bad really. I looked up "as if". They were totally off with that.
"as if" or "AS IF!!!" means, I have rejected this out of hand, or
I would never even consider such a thing.

"Bite me." isn't there either. (Not to be used in a social setting.)

It seems the list at my link is dated. It is a start though.

Always best to double
check an idiom before you use it in an important social setting.

It's true that "It's raining cats and dogs." means that it is raining
hard, however I personally feel that saying is a little old to be used.
Everyone will know what you mean if you say it though.

- Stephen

Reply With Quote
The following 3 users say Thank You to stephenszpak for this post:
 
  #10 (permalink)
Big game hunter
NY
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: Esignal, MBT navigator
Favorite Futures: Currencies
 
Posts: 2,526 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 1,397 given, 2,570 received


Every country puts phrases together differently . My wife is from mexico and asked me if we need "litter cat" when she goes shopping , I would say cat litter . Spanish dialects are different too so some of the lingo I picked up from south americans doesnt exist in mexico .

Reply With Quote

Reply



futures io > > > On speaking English correctly...

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



Upcoming Webinars and Events (4:30PM ET unless noted)

Jigsaw Trading: TBA

Elite only

FuturesTrader71: TBA

Elite only

NinjaTrader: TBA

Jan 18

RandBots: TBA

Jan 23

GFF Brokers & CME Group: Futures & Bitcoin

Elite only

Adam Grimes: TBA

Elite only

Ran Aroussi: TBA

Elite only
     

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Regression Channel not plotting correctly ShruggedAtlas NinjaTrader 16 July 27th, 2011 03:58 PM
NO SPEAKAH DE ENGLISH redratsal Jokes 0 June 8th, 2011 06:55 AM
New trading forums for non-English traders Big Mike Feedback and Announcements 11 December 17th, 2010 09:07 PM
How to read ADX correctly for CHOP perryg NinjaTrader Programming 22 August 5th, 2010 11:12 AM
X-ray animation of human speaking Big Mike Off-Topic 0 July 25th, 2009 03:17 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:09 PM.

Copyright © 2017 by futures io, s.a., Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama, +507 833-9432, info@futures.io
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice.
There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
no new posts
Page generated 2017-12-15 in 0.13 seconds with 19 queries on phoenix via your IP 54.226.34.209