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Unbelievable. You know its going on but do you know its going on this much...

NYTimes:- I Visited 47 Sites. Hundreds of Trackers Followed Me.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/23/opinion/data-internet-privacy-tracking.html

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Crazy. Might be well past time to start using Tor exclusively.

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Although it sometimes feels like shouting in the wilderness, it's still important to keep this topic alive.

Just saw this one:

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"Facebook said on Friday that it had suspended tens of thousands of apps for improperly sucking up users’ personal information and other transgressions, a tacit admission that the scale of its data privacy issues was far larger than it had previously acknowledged.

"The social network said in a blog post that an investigation it began in March 2018 — following revelations that Cambridge Analytica, a British consultancy, had retrieved and used people’s Facebook information without their permission — had resulted in the suspension of “tens of thousands” of apps that were associated with about 400 developers. That was far bigger than the last number that Facebook had disclosed of 400 app suspensions in August 2018.

"The extent of how many apps Facebook had cut off was revealed in court filings that were unsealed later on Friday by a state court in Boston, as part of an investigation by the Massachusetts attorney general into the technology company. The documents showed that Facebook had suspended 69,000 apps. Of those, the majority were terminated because the developers did not cooperate with Facebook’s investigation; 10,000 were flagged for potentially misappropriating personal data from Facebook users."

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/technology/facebook-data-privacy-suspension.h...7c3e2&regi_id=6453270921

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It's good that Facebook is cleaning up these apps. But the problem is that FB opened the door in the first place.

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Although it sometimes feels like shouting in the wilderness, it's still important to keep this topic alive.

It's good that Facebook is cleaning up these apps. But the problem is that FB opened the door in the first place.

Bob.

Thanks Bob.

I also want to keep reminding people that Zuckerberg called his early users "dumb f*ckers" for trusting him with their data.

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Thanks Bob.

I also want to keep reminding people that Zuckerberg called his early users "dumb f*ckers" for trusting him with their data.

Jeez, I'd never heard that quote before.

I also recently watched "The Great Hack" & agree with the previous comments about it. It may open some peoples eyes who are unaware that "they are the product" & how their data is used. Those who are already aware in this area may find the film less engaging in terms of learning new stuff.

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You can't have privacy in digital age, its not just your website data or social profiles that are being tracked, everything you speak around your favorite alexa or google helper is always recorded. You think that's too absurd? What if I told you that your phone also records keywords to find interests that you may have? Ever wonder why you are suddenly getting online coupons for baby trolley/toys even though you have not really searched for it online exclusively and you are still at discussion stage with your wife/better half about whether to have one or not?

Not a conspiracy theory, those things are indeed recorded, even random selfie at MacD outlet with your buddies can leak ton of info about you. That includes, whether you are married or not, how much you might be earning, how much health aware you are (maybe not much here since its MacD ), what religion you might belong too, what might be your education level, possibility of you coming to that place again, approximate location of your housing, kind of place you work at or go to uni to etc and much much more...

All these can be captured in a single careless selfie, everyone is collecting data about you, your pc, your mobile, your insurance policy company, you favorite liquor company, that little restaurant you always pass by on corner, they all watch your every move. To be very honest, I don't think its something we can stop anymore, unless you want to go completely off the grid in Alaska or something where even sat phones may not work. Fyi, still google, amazon and bunch of other people may know that you went to Alaska even if you didn't tell your wife.



There is no way to completely stop it, and its not always bad per say so there is no real need to go that far either. But you can deploy various measures to be relatively secure, which includes deploying proxy, ad-blockers, cookie blockers, using duck duck go instead of google or yahoo, using ghostery or if you can manage maybe straight up script blocker. Going beyond that and being aware of what you are posting yourself, you will drive yourself paranoid if you tried to maintain "privacy", and you know what? You would still fail in it.

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What if I told you that your phone also records keywords to find interests that you may have? Ever wonder why you are suddenly getting online coupons for baby trolley/toys even though you have not really searched for it online exclusively and you are still at discussion stage with your wife/better half about whether to have one or not?

Not a conspiracy theory, those things are indeed recorded

Source?

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Source?

I've marketing MBA from very prominent University here and we have done the said experiment ourselves for one of our private company projects. I can't link you to that but just simple google will lead you to many such experiments.

For example this;




Then these

https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/coincidence-or-is-my-phone-listening-to-me/

https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/security/a14533262/alphonso-audio-ad-targeting/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/phone-listening-facebook-google-ads/

One experiment that didn't find similar results as ours
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/is-your-smartphone-spying-on-you/ar-AAF7NkH


Our conclusion is that it does get recorded in a streams of large data hoarding machines, we have experienced it. So I'm allowed to say that. I'm pretty sure there is one thread on reddit about this as well, I'm not able to find it atm, so lets keep it for some other time

Oh wait! I seem to have found it
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2qbf0u/i_think_google_is_listening_to_my_phones/

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Thanks @LastDino, assuming it's a real video, that was very interesting. I've always heard this 'allegation' but never seen anything to support it, hence why I asked.

He did say "They left the Facebook App running in the background". I assume if you shut the app down completely that this would stop the listening. Still can't do that with Alexa or Google Home.

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Thanks @LastDino, assuming it's a real video, that was very interesting. I've always heard this 'allegation' but never seen anything to support it, hence why I asked.

He did say "They left the Facebook App running in the background". I assume if you shut the app down completely that this would stop the listening. Still can't do that with Alexa or Google Home.

You give number of apps access to lot of things, this is one of the drawbacks of having lot of alluring things on playstore for free. Its like trading, the more number of fancy indicators you see, the more chance of you not keeping your pocket money.

But then again, like I said in my original post, its not something to be taken to paranoid level, most of these things are done by machines, no other human is hearing on other side, maximum your info is doing is provide one more data point in very large data set (we roughly produce each year more data than start of humanity till the last year, in numbers if you had to spell that I don't even know how to, just say its a LOOOOTTTTT). Which is funny enough, because most data scientists will have to spend days to clean the data and reduce number of such data points because it can skew the results.

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