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The age of fake news

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 Redhouse 
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That was the US government actually...

Going back to the original problem, how about accepting news at face value only from reliable news sources? The BBC for one...

And generally just be critical about everything and think about "Whose interest it is?"


BBC is flavored liberal. WSJ is flavored conservative. Is one more reliable than the other? It depends on what we want to believe.



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It used to be that news sources had to draw from both sides (few papers and tv stations) so it was standard to exclude opinion - one couldn't tell how the reporter felt, if they were really good.

Now, like sugar, everyone is reading or listening to pop tarts all day long and feeling informed and superior. I'm trying to tune as much of it out as possible but I do find my biases affecting directing what I believe.


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This kind of reminds me of this fairly recent las vegas documentary video. Not really a fake media outlet,
but kindof promo for the casinos

I disagree, that is actually a pretty good documentary on casinos without the advertising effect... Most of us don't get a discount at black jack as Johnson did.

And I always, always trust Trish Regan...

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BBC is flavored liberal. WSJ is flavored conservative. Is one more reliable than the other?

There is a reporting the news thingy, and providing commentary thingy. Also, one can question the person being interviewed and call BS on statements...

Nowadays nobody calls BS on the interviewee, probably because they are afraid of aleniating people coming onto the show... They should have a giant red button BS buzzer with sound...

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But did you see what they did there? This is a political correctness, not probability test. She probably went with the most probable rather than take into account that the test had to be PC in this climate.

I would say it is a very good fake news test. She knew it was a fake news test and so this would be factored. She discusses the problem quite a lot as a university professor and director.

I did well because I have a good memory and I read the news about fake news a lot. It is somewhat relevant to the work of my medical scanner research business. I got three right for that reason, the other three because I anticipated the trick or I was statistically lucky.

So many times we hear Americans say the "world" is screwed when its actually just the US. Again, 4.4% of the population.. not planet Earth. One might wonder.. if the US disappeared magically would half or more of the fake news disappear?


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BBC is flavored liberal. WSJ is flavored conservative. Is one more reliable than the other? It depends on what we want to believe.

I'll try and find a BBC report that was on today about this specific media bias and fake news issue. I saw it on BBC world TV today, can't see it online yet.

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I would say it is a very good fake news test. She knew it was a fake news test and so this would be factored. She discusses the problem quite a lot as a university professor and director.

I did well because I have a good memory and I read the news about fake news a lot. It is somewhat relevant to the work of my medical scanner research business. I got three right for that reason, the other three because I anticipated the trick or I was statistically lucky.

So many times we hear Americans say the "world" is screwed when its actually just the US. Again, 4.4% of the population.. not planet Earth. One might wonder.. if the US disappeared magically would half or more of the fake news disappear?


I'll try and find a BBC report that was on today about this specific media bias and fake news issue. I saw it on BBC world TV today, can't see it online yet.



Yeah, half the fake news but also, literally, half or more of the technological innovation. As you are in the medtech busines, you know this to be true. It's still the Wild West and most of the world doesn't understand the mind of America and America doesn't understand most of the world.

Me, I stay in the Bay Area in part because I like a multicultural environment, but that's just me.

My kids play with affluent kids from everywhere - we are all the same.

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Yeah, half the fake news but also, literally, half or more of the technological innovation. As you are in the medtech busines, you know this to be true. It's still the Wild West and most of the world doesn't understand the mind of America and America doesn't understand most of the world.

Not to go way off topic but I disagree (lightheartedly) if I understand you correctly. I grew up in Western Europe and had access to the best universities. The best financial offer I got was a medical scholarship to a US ivy league when I finished highschool. I'm familiar with how the US brain-drains other nations. I was occupied with something else at the time though

If California "magically vanished" a new R&D haven would just appear somewhere else and the world would turn. No need for the "rapture", we will go on without you, don't worry about us.

Like... say... here in Colombia (go Colombia! not Columbia!) kidding. Anyway, for better or worse, the world would live and probably prosper sooner than anyone imagined. Way way less fake news also. Macedonian village kids might have made 1% of it but US news organisations paid them.

I would cheerfully acknowledge Russians, 1.93% of the world population, have a worse issue with who knows what ads or news is true but they always had this problem. The US is catching up fast though.

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No need to delete

I agree also. It is a certain type of person that innovates, shiny lab is not important.


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Nowadays nobody calls BS on the interviewee, probably because they are afraid of aleniating people coming onto the show...

I agree there, interviewers going for the throat calling BS happens too rarely for gross commercial reasons. The recent efforts at "fact checking" debates are valueless due to partisan news channels being selective, the interviewer must do it.

a fairly famous interview.

Again, back to the "fairness doctrine", a version of which many countries still have and can be learned from. Whether forgotten or too young to know there was an avalanche of prosecutions on the hill of elected officials and aids etc. during the Regan era. Solution? Can't get caught so easily if nobody is reporting both sides. Forward to 2016...

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No need to delete

I agree also. It is a certain type of person that innovates, shiny lab is not important.



You might like this innovation related piece if you are a RHCP fan:
https://www.johnfrusciante.com/article/the-almighty-instrumentals


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I found the report aired today that I mentioned earlier:



If you look at the comments you can see the YouTube comment troll genius' have had their cages ratted by nothing again. Sometimes I wonder how much of these are bot comments.

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