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Hello,

I have been trading full time for the past three years, recently have been profitable, but of course the earnings from trading are not sufficient to sustain myself.

Therefore I am exploring what would be a suitable job to earn a regular salary, whilst also allowing me to continue trading as a side hobby (which most of you on here treat it as).

About me:
  • I am in my mid twenties, have a business degree; with a year of accounting experience.
  • Have zero experience in programming, but am wondering if after a year of study for around 25 hours a week, I would be able to become skilled enough to procure employment? ( and the specific reason I ask this is b/c programming is obviously a transferable skill which can be used in my trading career)

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My concerns:
  1. I need a job that pays fairly well (Not necessarily $100K
  2. I need a job that doesnt take over my life---> I get to go home at 17h00, and have my weekends (to hopefully spend on my trading hobby)
  3. Should be white collar.....office job

This is a serious thread, please no dumb recommendations please.

Thank you so much for helping me out guys...

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I would say work in accounting, since that's your experience and that would match the white collar environment you are looking for. But good jobs, like you describe, don't just grow on trees. Nobody's going to just give you one unless your uncle is somebody important or something like that. You have to earn it. You have to adopt a whatever it takes mentality.

I can't even remember what it's like to work for someone, it's been so long, so I'm not the best person to give advice about "getting a job." I'd rather create my own.

If all else fails, being a female and in your mid-twenties, just find an older rich guy who'll take care of you. That's worked for plenty of chicks.

How were you a "full-time trader" for three years but couldn't make a living off it?

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Hello,

I have been trading full time for the past three years, recently have been profitable, but of course the earnings from trading are not sufficient to sustain myself.

Therefore I am exploring what would be a suitable job to earn a regular salary, whilst also allowing me to continue trading as a side hobby (which most of you on here treat it as).

About me:
  • I am in my mid twenties, have a business degree; with a year of accounting experience.
  • Have zero experience in programming, but am wondering if after a year of study for around 25 hours a week, I would be able to become skilled enough to procure employment? ( and the specific reason I ask this is b/c programming is obviously a transferable skill which can be used in my trading career)

    @Hulk @kevinkdog @tellytub @Ming80 @treydog999 @bobwest @sam028
    @traderpards @NJAMC @Fat_Tails @zander931

My concerns:
  1. I need a job that pays fairly well (Not necessarily $100K
  2. I need a job that doesnt take over my life---> I get to go home at 17h00, and have my weekends (to hopefully spend on my trading hobby)
  3. Should be white collar.....office job

Thank you so much for helping me out guys...


It took me 15 years or so of part time trading before I felt ready enough (capital, experience, edges, etc).

So my advice would be to get a job in what you have experience with (accounting), and find some stability there. There are always companies looking for good workers.

At the same time, keep the trading dream in the background - one day you'll be ready to take that leap again.

Good Luck!

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If all else fails, being a female and in your mid-twenties, just find an older rich guy who'll take care of you. That's worked for plenty of chicks.

How were you a "full-time trader" for three years but couldn't make a living off it?

Thank you for your advice...


Nope I'm not a gold digger, I have integrity.

I was a full time trader for three years, and couldnt make a living off it....for the same reason 80% of people couldnt.

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One other thing you could try...find some good traders/vendors/brokers from this forum, or other places. People or groups that match your level of integrity (meaning, don't contacts the scammers out there).

Tell them you want a job. Maybe they could provide something, and it would be trading related...

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I am pretty sure the OP is a previously banned user but can't quite remember his name. But he posts stuff like this all the time before. Buddy something maybe?

Who remembers? I need that name so I can double check. Maybe @Cloudy remembers?

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I am pretty sure the OP is a previously banned user but can't quite remember his name. But he posts stuff like this all the time before. Buddy something maybe?

Who remembers? I need that name so I can double check. Maybe @Cloudy remembers?

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No I am not a banned user........I just create my account this year...

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Just looked at this posters history. Definitely the same guy that was banned several times before and won't take a hint.

Hopefully someone remembers his name, once I can confirm he will be banned.

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I am pretty sure the OP is a previously banned user but can't quite remember his name. But he posts stuff like this all the time before. Buddy something maybe?

Who remembers? I need that name so I can double check. Maybe @Cloudy remembers?

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Was it Bud Fox or something like that? The guy who had his Elite membership paid for by someone else? He would always mention 5-10 people in his posts...

Maybe it is just a coincidence

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One other thing you could try...find some good traders/vendors/brokers from this forum, or other places. People or groups that match your level of integrity (meaning, don't contacts the scammers out there).

Tell them you want a job. Maybe they could provide something, and it would be trading related...

Kevin, you are always providing me with great advice in my various threads, you really seem like a good guy.

Thank You so much!

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OP actually mentions the EXACT same people, in the EXACT same order, in this post by "budfox"



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Kevin, you are always providing me with great advice in my various threads, you really seem like a good guy.

Thank You so much!

OK, you win budfox. I've tried helping you and your banned aliases for a few years now. I feel real stupid for falling for your trolling yet again.

Last time though, so enjoy it.

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OK, you win budfox. I've tried helping you and your banned aliases for a few years now. I feel real stupid for falling for your trolling yet again.

Last time though, so enjoy it.

budfox? what?

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He's gone. What a waste.

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OP actually mentions the EXACT same people, in the EXACT same order, in this post by "budfox"



I can't believe people go to these lenghts to try and stick around in forums and then do something stupid like that.

Unless psychologically they want to be caught.


Or maybe they're just trolling to waste people's time.

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I can't believe people go to these lenghts to try and stick around in forums and then do something stupid like that.

Unless psychologically they want to be caught.


Or maybe they're just trolling to waste people's time.

It's simple. They ignore everything that doesn't align with what they want to hear. That's why most traders fail. It's also why the trading vendor business is full of such obvious shams to experienced eyes, but they make hundreds of millions off inexperienced people who just want a quick fix.

You won't believe how many people message me saying they just want a simple strategy that makes $50-100 per day, no more. Those are the people the majority of the vendors target, because they are clueless.

On FIO we try to educate them, but most people don't want to put in the hard work - they just want the answer handed to them. It's like saying Michael Jordan could have lunch with you and turn you into a professional ball player.

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It's simple. They ignore everything that doesn't align with what they want to hear. That's why most traders fail. It's also why the trading vendor business is full of such obvious shams to experienced eyes, but they make hundreds of millions off inexperienced people who just want a quick fix.

You won't believe how many people message me saying they just want a simple strategy that makes $50-100 per day, no more. Those are the people the majority of the vendors target, because they are clueless.

On FIO we try to educate them, but most people don't want to put in the hard work - they just want the answer handed to them. It's like saying Michael Jordan could have lunch with you and turn you into a professional ball player.

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Sure, but my point was more about him getting caught.

This guy created several aliases, probably had a way to circumvent geolocation checks, and then goes do something so stupid like copying and pasting a list of users, (in the exact same order as Kevin pointed out) from his old thread?

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Sure, but my point was more about him getting caught.

This guy created several aliases, probably had a way to circumvent geolocation checks, and then goes do something so stupid like copying and pasting a list of users, (in the exact same order as Kevin pointed out) from his old thread?

Lazy and stupid. Just like with his trading.....

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Lazy and stupid. Just like with his trading.....

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That dude was arrogant, too - thinking he was smarter than everyone else.

It is funny: I know successful traders, and I know arrogant traders, but I don't know any success AND arrogant traders.

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"Kevin, you are always providing me with great advice in my various threads, you really seem like a good guy. Thank You so much!", reminded me of something I read last year:

"Its amazing how much manipulation is going on in parasites." Jacob C Koella, an expert in evolutionary biology, entomology & parasitology. He was speaking on how many parasites have evolved to alter the behavior of their host for their own benefit. Biological systems have distinct parallels with social systems.

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How the heck am i still getting these like random mentions? Well it did bring me back to BMT which i haven't been in a while, so thats a positive. like walking into a bar you used to frequent, once you get a whaft of the place its like "ahhh good to be back."

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How the heck am i still getting these like random mentions? Well it did bring me back to BMT which i haven't been in a while, so thats a positive. like walking into a bar you used to frequent, once you get a whaft of the place its like "ahhh good to be back."

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Sounds like the guy wanted your attention by posting the same names in the same order as his previous banned account. I'm no psychologist but I have had my encounters with the usual sociopath in my 35 years of existence. And they tend to revert back towards similar behavioral patterns when angry or seeking revenge. Like the psycho kleptomaniac ex girlfriend who decides to swing your 4 Iron at you every time you catch her stealing your Xanax. No matter how many times you tell her "just ask me for them and I will give you some" the kleptomaniac tendency of a human that suffers from such a disease forces them unwilling to seek something to steal. The sad thing is that the more inherently valuable that thing is to another person, the more they want to steal it. Just like this guy posting those same names in the same order as "budfox". He's a sociopath, bottom line. He's seeking to waste the time of any random person who will respond. And time is in my opinion a humans most valuable non renewable resource. Whatever it is that left such a bad taste in his mouth, wether it was his own ignorance or self loathing attitude that got him banned. He's obviously trying his hardest to continually troll. That's the problem with the internet. Everyone's either an expert or a troll. Some people just never reach a point in life where they can accept themselves for who they are. And decide to try and cause mischief in the lives of randoms. It's sad really. Although we all get a little laugh out of it from time to time. Just a thought.

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