In Canada, it may be better to let yourself be killed than to shoot back.

"What these people need," says Andre Simons, "are alternatives to violence. They are often unable or unwilling to articulate to themselves that there are alternatives to violence.

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

Like most people who do not support the right to keep and bear arms.

Ah.... the right to bear arms...

Rights which would disappear if human rights legislation were abandoned are:
•The right to life – protects your life, by law. The state is required to investigate suspicious deaths and deaths in custody.
•The prohibition of torture and inhuman treatment – you should never be tortured or treated in an inhuman or degrading way, no matter what the situation.
•Protection against slavery and forced labour – you should not be treated like a slave or subjected to forced labour.
•The right to liberty and freedom – you have the right to be free and the state can only imprison you with very good reason – for example, if you are convicted of a crime.
•The right to a fair trial and no punishment without law – you are innocent until proven guilty. If accused of a crime, you have the right to hear the evidence against you, in a court of law.
•Respect for privacy and family life and the right to marry – protects against unnecessary surveillance or intrusion into your life. You have the right to marry and raise a family.
•Freedom of thought, religion and belief – you can believe what you like and practise your religion or beliefs.
•Free speech and peaceful protest – you have a right to speak freely and join with others peacefully, to express your views.
•No discrimination – everyone’s rights are equal. You should not be treated unfairly – because, for example, of your gender, race, sexuality, religion or age.
•Protection of property, the right to an education and the right to free elections – protects against state interference with your possessions; means that no child can be denied an education and that elections must be free and fair

ALL of these rights would be wiped from the statute books

America has a WRITTEN CONSTITUTION to protect individual rights that the government CANNOT TAKE AWAY.

America has a WRITTEN CONSTITUTION to protect individual rights that the government CANNOT TAKE AWAY.

We have a worldwide audience here, I'm curious what the rest of the world thinks about the craziness and normality of mass shootings in America.

(Rory's highlight) Its in the less moderated section but stlll @Big Mike 's original post.

The thread had a sad but educational purpose however now it is disintegrating.

Sigh.. I vaguely thought ignoring him might work but it never works.. I would not bother @xplorer

Grodon has has only ever posted in this thread (on FIO) but he is part of the furniture at BullBear Talk (from a 2 second Google). He seems to be bravely striking out for new territory in seek of fresh endorphin hits.

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Nothing intelligible regarding actual trading, maybe a smokescreen for his real purpose.

Fair enough Rory. I will give my 2c as European on the topic.

From my standpoint the US have a history both proud and tragic. The majority of Americans seem to be proud of the traditional right to bear arms. As an outsider I am in no position to criticize them for that. And if I lived in a country where virtually everyone (there are exceptions) can own a gun, hell I would probably get one myself.

All I know is, if you look at the statistics, certainly the US is not on top of the gun-related deaths by country. But it's certainly not in good company. In terms of countries by firearm-related death rate (I'm looking at homicides per 100,000 people), before the US we have 13 Central/South American countries, Philippines, Jamaica and South Africa.
This makes the US the top country in the developed world with gun-related homicides. Not a record I would be too proud of.

Grodon has has only ever posted in this thread (on FIO) but he is part of the furniture at BullBear Talk

Thanks tt for counting and reading all 10 of my posts

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