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If what I'm hearing is true, this has snackbar written all over it. We'll see. But if I was a betting man...I'd say yeah.

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NYTimes :- How Often Do Mass Shootings Occur? On Average, Every Day, Records Show

NYTimes :- On Guns, We’re Not Even Trying
in the last four years, more people have died in the United States from guns (including suicides and accidents) than Americans have died in the wars in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq combined
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one person dies in America every 16 minutes from a gun,

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/us/san-bernardino-shooting.html?_r=0

I am waiting for them to call this Workplace violence...

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I am waiting for them to call this Workplace violence...

Of course they will..anything that will diminish the Islamic extremist narrative. The mainstream media will do it's usual deflecting . It gets very predictable after a while. Thankfully, there are an increasing amount of people that are starting to wake up.

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When you take away inner city gang members, Muslim fanatics..and the occasional deranged (and almost always on Psyche meds) mass shooter, there isn't all that much gun violence. Unfortunately these groups aren't going away anytime soon.

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I am waiting for them to call this Workplace violence...

Dude...of course that's what it is. The president himself suggested so this morning. And trust me, our president knows the difference between a little workplace violence and homegrown, Muslim-inspired terrorism (not that that ever happens). If there are people of a certain religious background living among us, committed to murdering Americans and seeing the destruction of this country, ole Barry would have told us by now.

I mean how could this not be simple workplace violence? Don't all disgruntled employees who want to kill people show up with their Pakistani émigré spouse to help, having just completed a trip to Mecca and having known contacts with Islamic extremists? That is, like, so right out of the workplace violence playbook. I just can't think of what else you could call it.

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Dude...of course that's what it is. The president himself suggested so this morning. And trust me, our president knows the difference between a little workplace violence and homegrown, Muslim-inspired terrorism (not that that ever happens). If there are people of a certain religious background living among us, committed to murdering Americans and seeing the destruction of this country, ole Barry would have told us by now.

I mean how could this not be simple workplace violence? Don't all disgruntled employees who want to kill people show up with their Pakistani émigré spouse to help, having just completed a trip to Mecca and having known contacts with Islamic extremists? That is, like, so right out of the workplace violence playbook. I just can't think of what else you could call it.

None of that matters. The thing to this one is you can't premeditate an argument. There was no way he gathered all the guns, bullets, and bombs in 30 mins to go back and shoot someone over a fight. He had this stuff stock piled up. Which means he planned to do something at some point...

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The guns were bought legally, passed all background checks.

I simply cannot comprehend those who think current gun laws are acceptable. These people need to examine the facts of the world, and the facts are that deaths by gun violence in America are many times higher of other first world countries.

And the legislators that offer their prayers and yet turn around and vote against more strict gun laws can stick it up their ass, prayers are not enough. Anytime someone that has examined the facts tries to pass tougher gun control laws, all these Congressmen always vote no.

Stop placing all the emphasis on the person that pulled the trigger. Of course they are responsible, but people of all backgrounds exist all over this world, there is no way to account for America having more gun violence than other countries by any means other than our archaic laws that allow guns to be purchased so easily.

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More people have been murdered in Chicago since 2001 than the total US military killed in Afghanistan and Iraq wars. The pro-gun guys say Chicago has tough laws. Well guess what, Chicago also had roads that lead to places other than Chicago where guns can be purchased. Use your brain, don't just listen to the nonsense being fed to you by FOX.

The USA needs comprehensive gun reform. The current cycle just continues to escalate. Break the cycle. More violence is not the solution.

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I disagree with you @Big Mike on the individual. But the only way to stop gun violence is going to be in restricting ammunition. You will never take away all the guns. Won't and can't physically happen. You could stop new sales, but even then you are talking some 300+ million fire arms out there.

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You could stop new sales, but even then you are talking some 300+ million fire arms out there.

That is true. But closing the 'gun show' loophole and forcing every private sale to be registered would be a step in the right direction.

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