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Gun violence from an objectivist stand point

This thread has been sort of silent for a bit so i thought I would add my two cents.

1.In America there is an inverse relationship with the number of guns in society and total gun related deaths.
2.We have our guns to protect us from our government tyranny.
3.Fully automatic weapons are used in less than 1.5% of shootings.
4.The second amendment has no limitation for our right to bare arms.
5. Does the fork make you fat? Do guns kill people or do people kill people? Does Chicago have some of the strictest gun laws in the U.S.A,(YES),does it have the one of the highest gun related death rates in the U.S.A,(YES).


HERE ARE SOME QUOTES


Arms are the only true badge of liberty. The possession of
arms is the distinction of a free man from a slave.

Andrew Fletcher(1653-1716)




A free people ought to be armed.

George Washington (1732-1799)
Boston Independent Chronicle, Jan. 14th 1790




The right to buy weapons is the right to be free

A. E. van Vogt
The Weapon Shops of Isher, 1951




The people have a right to keep and bear arms.

Patrick Henry (1736-1799)
(Elliott, Debates at 185)




In a polity, each citizen is to possess his own arms, which
are not supplied or owned by the state.

Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC)



The great object is that every man be armed.
Everyone who is able may have a gun.

Patrick Henry (1736-1799)
Virginia Convention - Ratification of Constitution - 1788




That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage
or working class flat is the symbol of democracy.
It is our job to see that it stays there.

George Orwell (1903-1950)




Without a rifle you are nothing, worthless, you are waiting
for death, any minute, any second.

Aron Bielski (b. 1927)
in Nechama Tec's "Defiance: The Bielski Partisans..."


As i was saying i would like to revitalize this dialog as it is an important subject.

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Arms are the only true badge of liberty. The possession of
arms is the distinction of a free man from a slave.

Andrew Fletcher(1653-1716)

Are you living still in those ol' days?
No progress since?

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Are you living still in those ol' days?
No progress since?

GFIs1


No, there has been progress ,but absolute power corrupts absolutely, this has held to be true throughout history.

More gun control gives power to the government, "Don't fear guns, fear the government that fears your guns".

Think about Paris, those people were killed because they were not allowed to have guns. The criminals will always get their hands on guns while the good law abiding citizens will be without protection.

Think of Chicago where they have one of the lowest gun ownership rates with one of the highest gun related murder rates.



When you take all this is mind do you really think they should impose stricter gun laws. I believe in the unregulated second amendment right to bear arms.

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This thread has been sort of silent for a bit so i thought I would add my two cents.

1.In America there is an inverse relationship with the number of guns in society and total gun related deaths.
2.We have our guns to protect us from our government tyranny.
3.Fully automatic weapons are used in less than 1.5% of shootings.
4.The second amendment has no limitation for our right to bare arms.
5. Does the fork make you fat? Do guns kill people or do people kill people? Does Chicago have some of the strictest gun laws in the U.S.A,(YES),does it have the one of the highest gun related death rates in the U.S.A,(YES).


HERE ARE SOME QUOTES


Arms are the only true badge of liberty. The possession of
arms is the distinction of a free man from a slave.

Andrew Fletcher(1653-1716)




A free people ought to be armed.

George Washington (1732-1799)
Boston Independent Chronicle, Jan. 14th 1790




The right to buy weapons is the right to be free

A. E. van Vogt
The Weapon Shops of Isher, 1951




The people have a right to keep and bear arms.

Patrick Henry (1736-1799)
(Elliott, Debates at 185)




In a polity, each citizen is to possess his own arms, which
are not supplied or owned by the state.

Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC)



The great object is that every man be armed.
Everyone who is able may have a gun.

Patrick Henry (1736-1799)
Virginia Convention - Ratification of Constitution - 1788




That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage
or working class flat is the symbol of democracy.
It is our job to see that it stays there.

George Orwell (1903-1950)




Without a rifle you are nothing, worthless, you are waiting
for death, any minute, any second.

Aron Bielski (b. 1927)
in Nechama Tec's "Defiance: The Bielski Partisans..."


As i was saying i would like to revitalize this dialog as it is an important subject.

very interesting quotes

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Why not show us some charts? Start a journal for yourself?

I think to most traders reading your cut-and-pastes, a simple phrase.. "correlation does not equal causation" comes to their minds. Traders who make money have fantastic BS filters.

Also I presume you have a Larry the Cable Guy album? (he is funny). I imagine thats where you got 'right to bare arms?" from?

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4.The second amendment has no limitation for our right to bare arms.

This is a trader's forum, show us the quality of your judgement trading then some may consider your views. Its not a free country, everything has a cost


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NYTimes :- One Week in April, Four Toddlers Shot and Killed Themselves

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/06/us/guns-children-deaths.html

During a single week in April, four toddlers — Holston, Kiyan, Za’veon and Sha’Quille — shot and killed themselves, and a mother driving through Milwaukee was killed after her 2-year-old apparently picked up a gun that had slid out from under the driver’s seat.

4+1 = 5

I searched but I couldn't find the article where 5 people lawfully saved/defended themselves from criminals or terrorists with their own guns that weekend.

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Underthegunmovie

Katie Couric has produced what should be an interesting documentary showing next Sunday at 8pm (on whatever epix is).

Home | Under the Gun

I'm sure she will be slandering those harmless "inanimate objects" like Undertheforkmovie I expect (a better name for her last documentary "Fed Up"). I'm only eating sandwiches and burgers since the NRA's trolls declared that forks are making people fat.

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Katie Couric has produced what should be an interesting documentary showing next Sunday at 8pm (on whatever epix is).

Home | Under the Gun

I'm sure she will be slandering those harmless "inanimate objects" like Undertheforkmovie I expect (a better name for her last documentary "Fed Up"). I'm only eating sandwiches and burgers since the NRA's trolls declared that forks are making people fat.

So I finally got to watch this documentary last night. Pretty good, nothing much new but the history of the NRA is good and how they got pawned by a professional lobbyist in the late 70s. The movie "Thank you for smoking" is always worth a look too and a sneakier way to educate your true believer friends and family as they won't see it coming


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I'll just make my 2c response to the thread topic. The world is an overpopulated economic mess currently. There was probably more gun violence in the wild west era and the world wars combined than the current modern supposedly civilized eras. The country is under siege from bankster-corporatized controlled government and media where a revolution of some form seems imminent. So of course I am for the right to bear arms even if there are a few marginalized disenfranchised individual loonies who go postal.

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