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An attempted criminal trying to buy an illegal automatic rifle from another criminal.

That's a great example of why gun control only effects law abiding citizens.

Also, I am leery of anybody from Medellin, Colombia (the narco-terrorist capital of the world) complaining about "lunacy" in America!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn

MMMM... as this is a no-troll forum so I am leaning on your comments being intended as humorous?

Just to balance a tad.. I'm really bored from over-tiredness today..

1. Perfectly legal semi-automatic at the time for private ownership in Florida and pretty much everywhere else? Banned in California, blame the Terminator ironically, he understands the difference between anti-personnel and anti-materiel in a domestic setting. Somehow a semi .50 that can be seen fire 6 shots in 1 second (See Youtube) was classed as a sports hunting rifle with fewer restrictions than on handguns? with a .50 (and the really cool shells) you don't even need to be in the building, how convenient is that for the busy domestic terrorist.

I can imagine some industry spokesperson explaining how nobody was struck by a shot from the .50 but cinder blocks need to be made more safe due to their fragments ridding victim's bodies.

2. I was not trying to buy it, he was trying to sell it fairly aggressively. I doubt he was in any legal difficulty in that county. I just picked it up though if I had exchanged money I probably would have been naughty, filthy socialist(ish) foreigner that I am.

3. I'm not Colombian, I have devastating blue eyes I'm told and slightly blonde hair Actually a lot of Colombians are blue-eyed blondes in a particular region. I mention this as it maybe had something to do with how the encounter went.

4. Medellin is lovely now, big changes in the past decade since the wicked witch died. Enough was enough, even the cartel bosses agreed the city was beyond livable and co-operated. The world could learn a lot from Medellin. Some weird laws enacted but they worked, e.g. a man is not allowed be passenger on a motorcycle. A chica, no problem. It had a remarkable effect on the then rampant bike assassinations and robberies. Also the rider is required to have his licence tag on his jacket, matching the bike. Additionally they moved to a civic model (in Medellin) that is far closer to true democracy. Ok its not Switzerland but all these rolling votes on public policies and civic projects have been remarkably effective.

Of course there is corruption as however heavenly Medellin is now, its still on planet Earth.

I guess the people of Antiocia Provence, of which Medellin is the capital, are in nature most similar to moderate conservatives that were pretty dominant in the US when I was a kid... until their functional extinction (at least in politics) after 2001 and the dawn of the Idiocracy Democritus of Abdera's stupid brother always said his time would come... who knew?

I'm pretty sure a .50 would have got two ducks (oldie but a goodie)


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I'm pretty sure a .50 would have got two ducks

Just kidding Rory.

I'm sure you are a law abiding citizen.

But you've got to remember that a ".50" would take out two terrorists, too!

It all depends on how it is used.

And, also, remember that, for most courageous Americans....... gun control is a STEADY HAND!


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In an era of mass slaughter by Islamic terrorists, it is surprising to find a prominent Republican like David Stockman calling for repeal of the 2nd Amendment to leave Americans as defenseless as the 159 pitiful Parisians recently shot down like dogs. Democrats yes, Republicans no.


David Stockman
Let me be clear from the outset. I vehemently oppose Big Government and Nanny State regulation, but also have no use for guns, find hunting distasteful and wish that James Madison had never dreamed up the Second Amendment while politicking for the Constitution. The so-called right to bear arms is truly a vestigial relic of the 18th century and has precious little to do with personal liberty or public security in the 21st century.

Leviathan, Gun Control And The Baleful Legacy Of The 2nd Amendment | David Stockman's Contra Corner

Admittedly, Stockman is a draft dodger (Divinity Student), which can explain part of his fear of guns.


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Stockman was educated at public schools in Stevensville, Michigan. He graduated from Lakeshore High School in 1964 and received a B.A. in history from Michigan State University in 1968. He was a graduate student at Harvard University, 1968–1970 and 1974–1975. He attended Harvard Divinity School.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Stockman

But Stockman is also one of the most prominent DOOMERS calling for an imminent economic collapse.


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David Stockman warns ‘end of the bubble does begin on December 16’

David Stockman warns ?end of the bubble does begin on December 16? | Economic Collapse News


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Yellen and her posse better pray for a monetary Tonto because they are riding headlong into an ambush in the canyons of Wall Street. To wit, they cannot possibly raise money market interest rates—-even by 75 bps—-without massively draining liquidity from the casino. (Note-The Fed only raised it 25 bps, the first rate increase in 9 years.)

http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/december-16-2015-when-the-end-of-the-bubble-begins/

Maybe there is a correlation between the predicted collapse and his desire to confiscate guns.

Stockman is the ultimate INSIDER and the ultimate DOOMER too.

So maybe this time he knows that the collapse really is coming, with the resulting social turmoil.


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Suicide, Crime, Unemployment And Poverty All Soar As The Economic Crisis In Alberta Accelerates

What is happening up in Alberta right now gives us some important clues about what we can expect to happen shortly in our own communities.

First of all, we are going to see large numbers of people start to lose their jobs just like we saw back in 2008. And because 62 percent of the country is living paycheck to paycheck, that means that most people do not have a cushion to fall back upon. Just like in 2008, millions upon millions of Americans will go from living a very comfortable middle class lifestyle to facing hard times and desperation very, very rapidly.

As fear and poverty spread, people will become desperate, and desperate people do desperate things.

Some will decide that their lives are no longer worth living and will turn to suicide. Others will turn to drugs, alcohol or pills. When things get tough, addictive behavior tends to rise, and this time around will probably be no exception.

Other Americans will turn to crime and violent behavior in their desperation. Just like we are seeing in Canada right now, home invasions, bank robberies and other forms of violent crime will increase.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/suicide-crime-unemployment-and-poverty...s-in-alberta-accelerates

Why else would he, all of a sudden, come out for gun confiscation now.

The whole country is on edge right now, from Ferguson to Baltimore to Oregon to San Bernardino.

And only the high stock market is preventing even more violent turmoil.

No telling what a mkt crash would do.

Maybe his call for gun confiscation is a strong indicator that this time, it really is different i.e a crash really is coming.

I'm not saying it is because the DOOMERS have been wrong countless times.

I'm just saying it is something to think about.

Edit: Looks like he is giving himself quite a bit of leeway for the "downturn", maybe even into 2017.


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The economic downturn is already gathering force throughout the world. And, in my judgment, it will hit American shores next year or shortly thereafter.

http://dailyreckoning.com/tomorrow-will-be-a-watershed-moment-for-financial-markets/

2017 is NOT what I would call "imminent".

Timing is the problem.

There has always been a "crash" eventually.

The question is when?


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What I find odd is that this is a trading forum and all 10 of your posts are in this thread. @Grodon

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What I find odd is that this is a trading forum and all 10 of your posts are in this thread.

Thanks, tt, for counting and reading all 10 of my posts.

I'll have more for you to count and read in the future!

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In just the first two weeks of the new year, global stock markets have lost $5.7 trillion in value.

Global stocks plunge amid fears of a new financial crisis - World Socialist Web Site

That might cause some MASS SHOOTINGS......right there!


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Not at all: the most negative stocks are those selling weapons and ammunition.
Now the exports of both will shrink to a minimum.
No shootings expected.

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No shootings expected.

Right.

I was referring more to the social turmoil that could (er, uh, make that WILL) accompany a real stock market crash.

Not just a correction like we have now.

Even a $5.7 Trillion correction.


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Not just a correction like we have now.

Canada is having a correction, particularly in oil producing Alberta.


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Last week Bank of Canada governor Stephen Poloz reminded the country of the hit we’re collectively taking: the drop in oil has delivered a $50-billion cut to Canada’s national income, equal to $1,500 per year for each man, woman and child.

Life at $20 a barrel: What the oil crash means for Canada

And what has been the result?


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More and more criminals carry guns these days, Degrand said, and most of those firearms were stolen from law-abiding citizens.....Restricted firearms, which includes handguns and what are called "black" rifles, are by law required to be trigger-locked and stored in a locked container or vault.

Thousands of stolen guns make life in Alberta more dangerous, RCMP warn - Edmonton - CBC News

But the criminals and terrorists don't have any "restricted firearms" and they'll just steal the container for the "stored" guns.

Another great example of why gun control only effects law abiding citizens.

But if this is happening in Canada now with a $1,500 per person "correction", what will happen when there is a real crash?


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The risk of a "severe correction" for China has "grown substantially", according to Credit Suisse.

http://www.businessinsider.com/credit-suisse-china-risks-losing-control-of-the-economy-2016-1?r=UK&IR=T

Chance of a "severe correction"?

That's a great euphemism for.......a real crash!

And it sure looks like it is coming over there.

But I don't think there would be any mass shootings in China.

It looks like the Communist government does the mass shootings over there.


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Multiple accounts agree that there were street clashes between Uyghur rioters and police forces, with buildings being damaged and cars lit on fire. It is possible that the riots were retaliation for the government's ban on fasting for certain groups during Ramadan. According to Chinese state media, 96 people were killed in the July riots—59 suspected terrorists and 37 civilians.

http://www.earlywarningproject.com/2014/10/17/rising-risk-of-state-led-mass-killing-in-china-s-xinjiang-region


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The Tiananmen Square massacre left an unknown number dead, with some estimates in the thousands

https://futures.io/off-topic/37266-yet-another-mass-shooting-20.html

That figures!


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Firearm ownership law in the People's Republic of China heavily regulates the ownership of firearms. Generally, private citizens are not allowed to possess firearms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_ownership_law_in_China

Gun control is a prerequisite for tyranny!

So the people are limited to "mass stabbings" over there.


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A series of uncoordinated mass stabbings, hammer attacks, and cleaver attacks in Chinese school between March 2010 and late 2012 left at least 25 dead and some 115 injured.

http://www.planetbiometrics.com/article-details/i/4010/desc/biometric-tech-intro...ty/#sthash.qylNtwkb.dpuf

A criminal with a knife is no match for a citizen with a gun.

But that is not going to happen in...............Communist China!

Final Edit:

Here's the chart that is really scary for China.

http://assets.bwbx.io/images/iZBRHFUoWSUU/v2/-1x-1.jpg

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-05/china-brokers-dust-off-wall-street-s-playbook-from-crash-of-1929

The Shanghai Composite is about 2900 now, down from over 5,000 in August.

And the comparison chart with 1929 says it could go to 2000, another 30% down or a total of 60% down since August.

That's what I call a "real crash", the equivalent of a Dow crash to about 7,000 from the 18,000 high.


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But I don't think there would be any mass shootings in China.

It looks like the Communist government does the mass shootings over there.


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The Tiananmen Square massacre left an unknown number dead, with some estimates in the thousands

And that is exactly the way the Communists like it.

So the Chinese Communist Party would be proud of this woman.


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The fatal road-rage shooting of a 19-year-old exchange student after an Arizona fender-bender has sparked heated debate on gun control — in China.

"I was planning on sending my kid to the U.S. for university but now I am thinking twice about that decision," one concerned mother wrote. "Though the pollution in China is bad, that is safer than a country where having a gun is legal."

ASU Student Jiang Yue's Road-Rage Killing Sparks China Gun Debate - NBC News

But NOT so proud of these Chinese exchange students.


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"The incident has prompted many students to consider buying guns," one Chinese ASU student told the China Daily newspaper Tuesday. "A student in my class has six guns. I myself consider buying one, too."

It is NOT the American way to disarm all law abiding women for what one woman criminal does.

But it is the Chinese Communist way.

And that is, at least partly, why rape is common in China.


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Rape is a common crime in China. Marital rape is not illegal in China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_China

A "Pistol in Every Purse" would the best deterrent to rape!

And a great deterrent to mass shootings too.

And, also, a great deterrent to Chinese Communist tyranny, where the Communist government tells you how many children you can have!


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The one child policy, a part of the family planning policy, was a population control policy of China which was introduced between 1978 and 1980...

The Chinese government says that 400 million births were prevented.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy

Try telling that to well armed Chinese women........ and men too.

Gun control is a prerequisite to tyranny!


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In July 2012, for example, a 23-year-old mother became pregnant with her second child. Local officials arrested her, seven months into her pregnancy, and demanded her family pay $6,000 in fines for violating the one-child policy. When the family couldn't get the money together, the officials gave her an injection that killed the baby, whom the mother delivered stillborn while in police custody.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/11/15/why-chinas-one-chil...ortions-and-always-will/


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