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From what I gather - it's not criminals carrying out the attacks.

It's mostly mentally ill people that are legal gun owners (or living with legal gun owners) that later 'flip out'.

In that case, gun legislation will curtail the issue.

Of course, then you have to worry about the 'bad guys' - but to be honest, your average armed crack dealer isn't the person shooting up schools - so I think those guys are in a different category.

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@SMCJB, apologies if answered previously in this thread, do you own a gun?

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@SMCJB, apologies if answered previously in this thread, do you own a gun?

Maybe surprisingly, but yes.

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Maybe surprisingly, but yes.

Doesn't surprise me, you are a smart guy with you and your family's best interests to protect.

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Until we recognize that an armed nation represents a public health threat, just as smoking was, this issue will never fade away.


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Marx, Lenin, and Stalin would agree 100%.

And KING GEORGE lll....TOO!


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I know that sounds clever but what does referencing communist sympathizers and the ex-king of England have to do with mass shootings in America and Gun Control?

Communist sympathizers?

Excuse me.

Those are HARD CORE COMMUNIST TYRANTS......and in the case of Lenin and Stalin....guilty of KILLING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.

Gun control is a PREREQUISITE TO TYRANNY and MASS MURDER.

And I should have added HITLER to the LIST!


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That feat was realized, however, when an extremist group led by Adolph Hitler seized power the following year and used those very same registration records to disarm “enemies of the state.” In 1938, the records were used to disarm Jewish gun owners such as Flatow, whose arrest report stated: “Arms in the hands of Jews are a danger to public safety.”

The FOUNDING FATHERS believed a WELL ARMED CITIZENRY is a GOOD THING.

And so do I.

But the TYRANTS and the TERRORISTS would love to see AMERICA DISARMED!

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Doesn't surprise me, you are a smart guy with you and your family's best interests to protect.

Very wrong I'm afraid - at least from the gun perspective.
It's unloaded, with a key trigger lock, in a combination safe.
The key for the trigger lock is hidden somewhere else.
The safe is not easily accessible from the main living area's.
I don't think my kids even know we have the safe, but I guess if they wanted to they could find it. They wouldn't find the key though.
I shoot Sporting Clays.
I wish I could keep it at the club but they won't allow that (for obvious reasons).

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Very wrong I'm afraid - at least from the gun perspective.
It's unloaded, with a key trigger lock, in a combination safe.
The key for the trigger lock is hidden somewhere else.
The safe is not easily accessible from the main living area's.
I don't think my kids even know we have the safe, but I guess if they wanted to they could find it. They wouldn't find the key though.
I shoot Sporting Clays.
I wish I could keep it at the club but they won't allow that (for obvious reasons).

If someone broke into your house with you and your wife and kids inside what would you do?

Two scenarios:

1. Armed robber, not intent on hurting anyone

2. Armed rapist, looking to inflict harm upon your loved ones

(pretending we could know ahead of time their intentions)

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If someone broke into your house with you and your wife and kids inside what would you do?

Two scenarios:

1. Armed robber, not intent on hurting anyone

2. Armed rapist, looking to inflict harm upon your loved ones

(pretending we could know ahead of time their intentions)

If we know ahead of times I would both a) have the police waiting for them and b) not be there myself.
If we didn't know ahead of time there is no way I could get to the gun.
Of course in my ideal world the 'armed' robber/rapist isn't 'armed'.

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If we know ahead of times I would both a) have the police waiting for them and b) not be there myself.
If we didn't know ahead of time there is no way I could get to the gun.
Of course in my ideal world the 'armed' robber/rapist isn't 'armed'.

Fair enough.

I just can't imagine why anyone wouldn't have the tools available to protect themselves in their own home.

Don't have to be a gun carrying cowboy walking around the house in slippers with .44 on the hip, just have it somewhat accessible, while being mindful of keeping it out of the reach of children.

It's a win-win situation in my book.

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If someone broke into your house with you and your wife and kids inside what would you do?

Two scenarios:

1. Armed robber, not intent on hurting anyone

2. Armed rapist, looking to inflict harm upon your loved ones

(pretending we could know ahead of time their intentions)

I think in the anti-gun person's worldview..you are just unlucky if those things happen and you should just accept your fate...and die. They also believe that no one who owns a gun is skilled or competent enough to defend themselves and will end up shooting themselves in the foot or something.
In their version of reality, they feel they can reason with a thug and say something like, "Listen, my poor oppressed friend, I understand that you have not had the priviledges that I have,,,and you are a product of the systemic injustices that plague this country...please help yourselves to my belongings. I'm on your side." To which he replies, "Shut yo mouth you dumb piece of sh.." and the proceeds to fire multiple rounds into you and then brutually assaults and kills your wife.

Forget that most all gun violence is perpetrated by the same gang types and criminals which you see in Chicago, Baltimore etc..and the occasional lone psycho on meds that shoots up a school.
No, now that we are going to let refugees with suspected ISIS members infiltrating..plus we have emboldened thugs from the false police brutality narrative...these anti gun people want to disarm people .
Until they can find a way to disarm all the inner city criminals, wackos on psyche meds..and Islamic lone wolf shooters, I will be keeping my guns.

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