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The team introduced BHB to mouse models of inflammatory diseases caused by NLP3. They found that this reduced inflammation, and that inflammation was also reduced when the mice were given a ketogenic diet, which elevates the levels of BHB in the bloodstream.

“Our results suggest that the endogenous metabolites like BHB that are produced during low-carb dieting, fasting, or high-intensity exercise can lower the NLRP3 inflammasome,” said Dixit.

Which is just more conformation of what has been being reported over the last several years about a ketogenic diet and high intensity interval training (HIIT).

It's important to note that eating low carb puts the body in the same ketogic state as fasting. So as far as benefits, a low carb diet is like fasting but getting to eat while you're doing it. : )

High-Intensity Interval Training and Intermittent Fasting - A Winning Combo for Fat Reduction and Optimal Fitness

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Anybody here has considered instead of full fasting a soylent, joylent type of diet?

The advantage would be getting all the nutritions needed, easy to count calories and easy on the stomach, not to mention starving less. So if weight loss is the goal, a 500-1000 kcal diet drinking it once or twice a day...

I have tried powder chow and it is pretty tasty specially with milk. It is like a protein shake.

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Anybody here has considered instead of full fasting a soylent, joylent type of diet?

The advantage would be getting all the nutritions needed, easy to count calories and easy on the stomach, not to mention starving less. So if weight loss is the goal, a 500-1000 kcal diet drinking it once or twice a day...

I have tried powder chow and it is pretty tasty specially with milk. It is like a protein shake.

Powder Chow | DIY Soylent from an Oregonian

There are also DIY recipes online...

Hi @Pedro40

All depends on your goal for the fast, but if you have 500-1000kcal then it's not full fasting, usually fasting refers to no calories or up to 30kcal a day. Otherwise you're just on reduced calorie diet and if so and you have 500-1000kcal to spare I would supply a quality protein from lean meat, fibre from a fresh smoothie and fats from either oil, avocado, nuts etc. This way it would be better than drinking synthetics which to me are quite dodgy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8NCigh54jg).

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I'm currently on Day 5 of my fast. Just going to listen to my body and see how it goes. So not sure how long it will go but wouldn't be surprised if it goes 21-25 days. My main goal is to get my kidneys in better shape. I never did a fast when I switched from the Standard American Diet (SAD) to vegan. Wish I would have. I went Raw Whole Food Vegan and 2 and a half months later I had a major bad flareup of Gout. I had restless legs at night before the switch at times. My kidneys just wasn't in good enough shape to be able to concentrate on some foods. Turns out that I can't eat bananas or dates as I can't handle fruits high in simple sugars. Went RWHV in Nov. 2011 and had gout Jan 25 2012. Gout blew up my right foot the size of Texas! It was in every joint in my arch. I thought it was the baby spinach I was eating so I stopped that but continued everything else. So the gout got worse and it blew up my left knee. It took 3 and half viles of fluid taken out of my right knee to get me walking again. Then it started going into my neck. So I stopped my raw whole food vegan diet and switched to Raw Meal meal replacement powder. I have had that twice a day every day white a vegan lunch until 5 days ago.
I have not had any gout flare up since. However, the stiffness in my neck did get better but it has NOT gone away. So I really need to get my kidneys in better shape. I'm convinced that the stiffness in my neck will go away when the fast is completed. I have done lots of research and watching youtube videos on peoples results and I feel like this is what I need.
I feel like I'm on the right track and the restless legs have really kicked in starting on night 3. I only got 3 or 4 hours of VERY INTERRUPTED sleep. I tried only drinking 3 liters of water yesterday instead of 4 but that didn't work either. Still had restless legs and not much sleep. Maybe 4 hours or a touch more last night. I think today I will stop drinking about 5pm and give my kidneys time to catch up. I have noticed that the restless legs go away about 5 hours or so after I stop drinking. I will see if this works. Not really having any other issues yet. No elimination since day one. So no cleansing there of yet. Still have some gas tho so I know I have some old stuff in there that is being broken down but hasn't came out yet. No deep rooted emotional issues yet either. Most days I do feel like a nap in the afternoon. I'm not doing much during the day so I'm giving myself time to rest. After day 12 I will be back at work but I have a sit down type of job so I won't be expending much energy. If I start running out of energy or having troubles at work, I will check into getting a personal leave and not use my vacation days. I have doubts that I will have any major issues but you never know.
Other than that, not much to say. I feel fine and have plenty of energy. Hopefully ketosis wil burn my belly fat first! I never did get rid of all of my belly fat after the transition. If not, I'm sure I can get rid of it on the raw diet and some exercise if I can get rid of the stiffness in my neck.

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Y'all got me interested in this water fasting and i'm currently planning a New Year fast starting Monday. My goal is absolute minimum of 3 days as its my first time. I really want to go for 7-10 days though. I suffer from gout, IBS, lots of inflammation in the joints. I'm about 7kgs over ideal weight according to BMI. Really interested in the 'reset' effect.

A couple of questions, can i drink Green tea whilst on my fast and also, can i maintain my daily pro-biotic capsules?

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Y'all got me interested in this water fasting and i'm currently planning a New Year fast starting Monday. My goal is absolute minimum of 3 days as its my first time. I really want to go for 7-10 days though. I suffer from gout, IBS, lots of inflammation in the joints. I'm about 7kgs over ideal weight according to BMI. Really interested in the 'reset' effect.

A couple of questions, can i drink Green tea whilst on my fast and also, can i maintain my daily pro-biotic capsules?

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You CAN, but your digestive system will still be working if it has to digest the tea, but 3 days isn't enough for it to really shut down good anyway. And if it has to digest the tea, it should digest the capsules. But one of the benefits of water only, especially if you do go 7-10 days, is that the digestive system shuts down, it gives that rest, and the body is fully depending on fat for its nutrition (ketosis), and you're letting the body do its own thing without any help from you including the biotics.

Let me emphasize this...if you're healthy, you're not gonna die no matter how you feel. lol. If you've never done it before the detox could be harsh. The first time I did one I thought I was gonna die. Horrible headache from the detox for a few days, weakness, sleeplessness, etc. But I survived. Went about 13-14 days. About day 5 it started getting better. But you may not detox that bad.

And if you do go that long, come of with juice a day or two and start with some soft fruit like bananas. You could Google breaking a long fast.

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You CAN, but your digestive system will still be working if it has to digest the tea, but 3 days isn't enough for it to really shut down good anyway. And if it has to digest the tea, it should digest the capsules. But one of the benefits of water only, especially if you do go 7-10 days, is that the digestive system shuts down, it gives that rest, and the body is fully depending on fat for its nutrition (ketosis), and you're letting the body do its own thing without any help from you including the biotics.

Let me emphasize this...if you're healthy, you're not gonna die no matter how you feel. lol. If you've never done it before the detox could be harsh. The first time I did one I thought I was gonna die. Horrible headache from the detox for a few days, weakness, sleeplessness, etc. But I survived. Went about 13-14 days. About day 5 it started getting better. But you may not detox that bad.

And if you do go that long, come of with juice a day or two and start with some soft fruit like bananas. You could Google breaking a long fast.

This is great, thanks. I really appreciate the view, googling this stuff needs a good filter...

I'm pretty healthy, generally. So with the headaches, i guess popping a pill is no good either...?

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Y'all got me interested in this water fasting and i'm currently planning a New Year fast starting Monday. My goal is absolute minimum of 3 days as its my first time. I really want to go for 7-10 days though. I suffer from gout, IBS, lots of inflammation in the joints. I'm about 7kgs over ideal weight according to BMI. Really interested in the 'reset' effect.

A couple of questions, can i drink Green tea whilst on my fast and also, can i maintain my daily pro-biotic capsules?

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NO! The whole point in fasting is to divert your energy from digesting food and have it available for healing. If you intake anything other than water, your energy will go towards digestion. Keep in mind that your body uses slightly over 50% of it's energy in digestion and assimilation. If you was as so much to just put 1 teaspoon of freshly squeezed lemon juice in your water, your body will recognize it as food and there goes your energy to digestion instead of healing! Do not intake anything but water!
Monitor your blood pressure while fasting. It will lower some while your fasting, which is normal. Just don't let it get too low. Monitor your heart rate and if its gets beating too fast, break your fast. LISTEN TO YOUR BODY!! Very important when your fasting to get out of your mind and just listen to your body. You need to rest as much as possible while fasting. Save all your energy for healing. If I can find the videos I watched with some good information in it I will post it up later.
I would recommend that you spend some time doing more research on the subject before you start your fast.
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This is great, thanks. I really appreciate the view, googling this stuff needs a good filter...

I'm pretty healthy, generally. So with the headaches, i guess popping a pill is no good either...?

Nope. No good. Just gotta grin and bear it. : )

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