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Unfortunately, its probably just as likely its one of these:

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Something incredible happens when a black hole meets a star.

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Something incredible happens when a black hole meets a star.

https://www.facebook.com/techinsider/videos/426667624198266/

I doubt this is what it realistically looks like, at least the part when the star enters the black hole. In all honesty I think it looks a little messier.

Anyways good choice for not holding into the weekend, I read an article that they'll be able to confirm if there's alien life on that one weird planet within the next couple days. I'm not sure what the implications will be on if there is, but I'm ready to find out.

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I doubt this is what it realistically looks like, at least the part when the star enters the black hole. In all honesty I think it looks a little messier.

Anyways good choice for not holding into the weekend, I read an article that they'll be able to confirm if there's alien life on that one weird planet within the next couple days. I'm not sure what the implications will be on if there is, but I'm ready to find out.

I am gonna get a hurricane this weekend... I didn't want to hold through that. We are expecting 10-12 inches of rain over the weekend.

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I am gonna get a hurricane this weekend... I didn't want to hold through that. We are expecting 10-12 inches of rain over the weekend.


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Is that malt liquor?

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Is that malt liquor?

yes

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By drone you mean NASA Astronaut Scott Kelly?

You can never trust a guy with two first names...

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By drone you mean NASA Astronaut Scott Kelly?

You can never trust a guy with two first names...

Well the drone was dropped by the astronaut but it took pictures while it was falling and then It slowed it's descent with it's propellers.











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Maybe It's Time To Stop Snickering About Aliens : 13.7: Cosmos And Culture : NPR


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As interesting as the alien story is, this one might actually have a lot more impact. Basically, at least on a quantum level, the speed of light is may not be the ultimate barrier we once thought...

What Einstein Got Wrong About the Speed of Light

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As interesting as the alien story is, this one might actually have a lot more impact. Basically, at least on a quantum level, the speed of light is may not be the ultimate barrier we once thought...

What Einstein Got Wrong About the Speed of Light

Breaking Warp 10, one of my fav Star Trek episodes.


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old news

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I hate when that happens...

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NASA to deliver new findings on Mars' atmosphere - CNN.com

If there is alien life they'll probably announce that exists as a microorganism first to gauge the reaction of the public before saying there is intelligent life somewhere. I think it's a great way to mitigate the shock factor.

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Published on Nov 4, 2015
Twenty years ago astronomers discovered the first planet around a sun-like star, 51 Pegasi b. And in the last 20 years, astronomers have discovered thousands of new exotic worlds, begun to characterize atmospheres of faraway planets, and are developing cutting-edge technology to launch us on our search for alien life. Planets with two suns, rogue planets with no star, close cousins to planet Earth. This is the story of the pioneers in planet-hunting and how those who have followed are closer to answering one of humanity’s most ancient questions: Is there life elsewhere in the universe?


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Well,
This feels like the place to get started.
First post and all, but I really wanted to drop in somewhere I might have something to share. This forum seems to share a higher order of content so my hope would be this post and the video I mention make the grade.

Couple years ago I had the pleasure to teach a couple engineering software classes (part of what I do to pay bills). NASA Johnson and NASA LaRC. One of the engineers mentioned this video.

Not everyone probably has the patience to read this post. At least watch the video....
I really think it's worth it. You might be surprised to learn what was involved in getting Curiosity on Mars.

I hope it lets me post this video link. If not Bing/Google "Seven Minutes Of Terror" look for the NASA result.







A story and my thoughts to explain why I submit that video
When I went into the field of engineering, design and manufacturing. Of course mom had to come see what all the fuss was about...

We sat down with my computer and I started showing her designs being created with a product called ToolChest (moved on to way more advanced programs now). So I get done with my little demo and mom says to me:

"Does everyone have software / stuff like this now?"
<A Yes mom pretty much everyone is moving to something like this or they are already using something like this.

"You know what has been said about engineers right?"
<A I don't like where this is going

So then she drops the following on me:
"Engineers that came before you went to the moon with a slide rule, with all this (meaning software etc) what have you done for me lately?"
"Also, Stalin stated there are no famous engineers..."

All I had was a rebuttal for the Stalin thing because well, he killed them all. My theory is that created a pretty significant barrier to possible future fame for the engineers in question.

Now, the comment about the slide rule, mom has a point.
There is nothing else left in the community of engineering that wakes up every day and doesn't serve death or profit. There is just NASA and the stuff like it around the world. Trust me when I say, like it or not. Nobody is working on anything that really benefits you as a "human" outside of organizations like NASA. The rest of the best either work DOD or in a for profit climate. Neither of those being driven to the benefit of humanity.

This is why everyone and I do mean everyone should support the efforts of NASA and the similar programs around the world.

Back to the video, soon as I got home from the Johnson trip I made a point to share the video with mom. My rebuttal was just 20+ years in the making. Where I come from disrespecting mom is a bad idea so I had to tread lightly on the path of telling her she was only 1/2 right back in the day....

What have we done for her lately? Everyone thinks Curiosity is cool and all, they have no freeking clue what was required and what had to be INVENTED to put something the size of my compact car on that planet. The video speaks to some of the engineering required to pull that off.

Mom was 1/2 right, because she was 1/2 right. There are no famous engineers and for that reason she believes "what have you done for me lately". It is disheartening for the profession. Everything around us that wasn't here a billion years ago we owe to the mind of an engineer (or team of) that nobody will ever know the name of....

At NASA Johnson they have "Rocket Park". There is a rocket (one of few remaining) inside a building on the grounds. Along the wall next to the rocket exists a sort of timeline of the program with quotes from folks along the way, pictures mentions of milestones etc.

I should have taken pictures of it all. I didn't and there is no measure of my regret for that. One of the more significant quotes on the wall went something like this: (I'm old and the memory ain't what it was so some leeway would be appreciated). There is much more to the quote but I remember more of the meaning than I do the literal text.

A NASA Astronaut from the early days of the program:
"Spaceflight is very dangerous, no matter what happens this work is too valuable to be stopped or discontinued".
He was killed in a launch incident not long after that statement...

Bad days at NASA involve the loss of coworkers and or friends by pushing forward with the best intentions. Only to have the WORLD play the result like a broken record over all forms of media for days / weeks on end. To be followed only by questions about continued funding for everything they do.

Trust me, you are getting real value for your tax dollars with these folks. They are some of the best damn engineers your money can buy. Being I am a self employed conservative that's saying something...

Possibly I see things differently given my profession. We should spend more time thinking about the accomplishment, not the result. Those are frankly not the same thing in my opinion. For instance in a way I think folks here can relate with. Take Big Mikes success with his trading. I would bet most folks focus on the results of such an endeavor based on how much money it makes or doesn't.

Me, I look at that in the context of "duh" making money that's the goal. What matters or what is possibly MOST significant is what had to be overcome to be in the place where he is able to do the science of if/not said thing does make money. The money or lack of it, is a byproduct of the real accomplishment. The pics from Mars are a byproduct of the real accomplishment. The video covers the NASA Curiosity real accomplishment...

The folks in the video are not famous, you likely won't see them anywhere else.
While I didn't get to chat with the folks in the video specifically I did get the chance to really interact with probably 30-40 different engineers during my time at NASA Johnson and LaRC, I'm pretty confident saying being famous is the least of what they think or worry about. I'm willing to bet that is the case with every program like NASA the world over.

IMHO, we should share more NASA. We should do a better job of recognizing the HUGE amount of success that has to happen BEFORE "cool pictures from the red planet" find their way to the internet or the engineering disaster we call a TV... That's why I share the video, because it talks about HOW we got to the point of being able to forward science in a significant way on a planet we can't touch...

Sadly, when it comes to engineering for mankind there isn't much else to be proud of.

It's because the folks that make these things happen are not famous, the programs they forward and the people themselves are such treasures for all of humanity. Not everyone can solve the problems they do, everyone can take time to be thankful they try.


And with that I will STFU and share a few pics from the trip to JSC

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If the quality of these pics sucks, cut me some slack. I was still holding a BlackBerry in 2014....

F1 Engine
Someone managed to dream this up, someone managed to figure out how to build it, someone had the stones to ride 5 of them...





Orion (Note the size of scale with the people in the picture) You might be looking at the smallest, most expensive apartment on Earth... That thing isn't intended to "make trips". Folks are going to be camped in this for a while...



Even NASA has a sense of humor.



Sadly NASA Johnson (the ones doing manned spaceflight) didn't get one of the left over shuttles. Personally I think it's a crime they have to build a mock up to display on the grounds....



William Anders Quote:



Saturn V:








Almost not enough building for this thing....



Mission Control (from the "Slide Rule era")



Rocket Park:

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Well,
This feels like the place to get started.
First post and all, but I really wanted to drop in somewhere I might have something to share. This forum seems to share a higher order of content so my hope would be this post and the video I mention make the grade.

Great first post! I Love NASA. My sister worked there, if only for a short time as a receptionist I think. To young to care then. LOL
Although NASA did ruin my 18th birthday back in the mid 80's, still love their achievements!

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So Bezos beat Elon, but it's kinda like comparing apples and oranges given the difference between space and orbit. Elon says it's a difference of achieving mach 3 (Blue Origin) vs mach 30 (SpaceX).

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So Bezos beat Elon, but it's kinda like comparing apples and oranges given the difference between space and orbit. Elon says it's a difference of achieving mach 3 (Blue Origin) vs mach 30 (SpaceX).

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So Bezos beat Elon, but it's kinda like comparing apples and oranges given the difference between space and orbit. Elon says it's a difference of achieving mach 3 (Blue Origin) vs mach 30 (SpaceX).
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Sometimes I scratch my head on the sub-orbital 'space tourism' i.e. 100k up and down viability. Any friends who understand physics would rightly ridicule any 'astronaut' claims.. fun maybe or just a ridiculous vanity trip for the ultra-rich (and yet maybe not that bright..?) I'm not sure.

In 2001 I was fortunate enough (at a fraction of the cost) to do a MIG 29 jaunt up to 20k meters or so. It was great fun. If it was a little longer and the curvature of the Earth a bit more curved.. I really don't think it would matter that much? I experienced lots of Gs then zero gravity for a bit, ok no floating champagne service and not much room obviously but I know now what it feels like.

Even with a 27 minute flight (we did a bit aerobatics on the way back..woohoo!) it was plenty of sensory experience, probably far more? I guess there is a group experience and you can't have that in a MIG.

I just hope some useful technology and a generation of usefully skilled people will come of Blue Origin/Virgin for Mars etc.

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The government was almost ready to test a space craft propelled by thousands of small nuclear bombs to mars...Awesome documentary

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I'm sure many have seen this from the series or FB posts but I don't think it is off topic.

Gives me some glimmer of hope, not that the scientific minds and leaders of exploration will work harder but that the public consciousness might look upwards again if we get past this micro-dark age?

"We built great big things, made ungodly technological advances, explored the universe"...

Full version so jump to 3:15 to skip the preamble but I really resonate with his character's demeanour..


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Outboard SRB views from the STS 134 Space Shuttle launch with ғᴜʟʟ ʟᴇɴɢʜᴛ natural sound from
the trip up and the spectacular 71km. fall back down to Earth...... . . . . . .+++ . .
The boosters will propel the Shuttle to 3512 mph (5652 km/h). At 124 sec. after lift off, the . ►►
SRBs have expended their fuel. They separate from the orbiter at an altitude of approx 30,4 mi.(49 km)
After separation, momentum will propel the SRBs for another 70 sec. to an altitude of 44,1 mi (71,6 km)
before they begin their long tumble back to Earth. . . .

At an altitude of 2,5 mi.(4.6 km) the nose cap is jettisoned and deploys a pilot parachute.
These immediately deploys the drogue parachute which is attached to the top of the cone-
shaped structure at the end of the booster.

At an altitude of 1,2 mi (2.1 km) the cone separates and this releases three main parachutes.
These chutes will quickly slow the booster's speed from 230 mph (370 km/h) to 51 mph.(82 km/h)
A motor nozzle extension is severed by a pyrotechnic charge approx 20 sec. later.

At approx. seven minutes after liftoff, the boosters impact the Atlantic Ocean.
The splashdown area is a box of about 7 by 10.5 mi (11 by 16.7 km) located about 140 mi (258 km)
downrange from the launch pad where 2 retrieval ships collect them.
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Planet Nine, is that really you? Read more about the newly announced planet here: 'Planet Nine' Explained: Facts About the Mysterious Solar System World (Infographic)

Very cool. I was sort of blue about Pluto being downgraded. Who knew that we would soon have something entirely new discovered about the Solar System? We live in exciting times.

Interesting that it was discovered from its gravitational influence on the orbits of previously known objects, which was the way that Pluto was originally discovered.

Here's something more about it: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/science/space/ninth-planet-solar-system-beyond-pluto.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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Where's the link to the released documents or do we not care about those?

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Where's the link to the released documents or do we not care about those?

somewhere buried in here https://www.cia.gov/redirects/ciaredirect.html

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Interesting, but I do have to say that these images look pretty much like all the other desolate pictures from the moon....

Still, I'm glad that human beings (of any national origin) are going there, or at least, sending their robotic stand-ins there.

Now, when do we put humans on Mars?

We're like the early Polynesians setting out in dugout canoes to find out what's on the other side of the oceans. We've still got a lot of sailing to do....

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Interesting, but I do have to say that these images look pretty much like all the other desolate pictures from the moon....

Still, I'm glad that human beings (of any national origin) are going there, or at least, sending their robotic stand-ins there.

Now, when do we put humans on Mars?

We're like the early Polynesians setting out in dugout canoes to find out what's on the other side of the oceans. We've still got a lot of sailing to do....

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Agreed. They look like color pics of a black and white moon

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Some are pretty nice.

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Its just the Clangers, everyone from the UK and Ireland learned about this from our mind-expanding children's TV. US kid's TV was hardly like being on drugs at all.


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My mastermind group discussed Space X's recent landing and how the future of space travel will be come more and more common.

One of the topics had to do with capturing space resources for use on Earth and potential use in long term space travel. Below is one article that we discussed that talks about the amount of water in the solar system.

Interesting time in history that we live it.

A map of all the water in the solar system

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My brother is an engineer who works on the ISS's electronics among other things. He said a few years ago that NASA/ESA have crazy lead times for new equipment e.g. still using 90s Pentiums for jobs as they are space certified when the Chinese would pretty much just use a iPad.

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Most likely there are a multitude of dead alien civilizations and more likely that the ones who did survive are from a different universe and time dimension altogether. There seems to be a standard regarding types of craft and technologies reported. This could be a result of a learning curve acquired by races that have the ability to transcend space and time. Assuming this, it's not to far off to say that each visitation could be by a completely unique alien colony. Perhaps earthlings think there's one alien race coming here on a regular basis. It could be thousands of alien races from other times, dimensions, and so forth just landing here arbitrarily because they've gotten to a point in technological evolution that allows them to.

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Not as exciting as a Space X but halfway through the 35 minute deceleration burn.

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It ain't gonna' happen in our lifetime, or our millennia, or for quite a long while after that. Face it folks...Intelligent life outside of our solar system would be so far away that we won't know about it for hundreds of thousands of years. And by then, we humans could be kaput.

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It ain't gonna' happen in our lifetime, or our millennia, or for quite a long while after that. Face it folks...Intelligent life outside of our solar system would be so far away that we won't know about it for hundreds of thousands of years. And by then, we humans could be kaput.

It could happen tomorrow or in a thousand tears or a million but there is no 'face it folks' to face. I know the lads over the bay in Clearwater would convince anyone there is no intelligent life on Earth, but I have hope

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It could happen tomorrow or in a thousand tears or a million but there is no 'face it folks' to face. I know the lads over the bay in Clearwater would convince anyone there is no intelligent life on Earth, but I have hope

Earth = "Mostly Harmless".

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It ain't gonna' happen in our lifetime, or our millennia, or for quite a long while after that. Face it folks...Intelligent life outside of our solar system would be so far away that we won't know about it for hundreds of thousands of years. And by then, we humans could be kaput.

Even if we detected an alien civilization odds are they would be long gone. The sheer size of the universe makes it impossible. Remember everything we see in space is in the past. So even if you could travel fast enough to go to a star odds are when you got there it would be gone, along with any chances of life.

Or it is just all a hologram and we are all really just 1's and 0's.

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Of course, to the question, "Has or will intelligent alien life visit or contact us?", one answer would be, "Why would they want to?"



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Never saw this before.. I'm such a geek.. but 500 FPS footage at the base of Apollo 11 during launch.


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Rory, seriously? C'mon man, you're geekier than that silly vid! What about the SRB ride on the shuttle?





P.S. The above emoticon has nothing to do with anything. I just thought it weird that FIO has a Llama emoticon in the list of available emoticons, and have not seen it posted in any other thread.

It's cool, but weird, man. Llamas rule!

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Rory, seriously? C'mon man, you're geekier than that silly vid! What about the SRB ride on the shuttle?

Its good but too exciting maybe. Call me a purest but I like things to be longer than anyone would reasonably watch and from just one static angle. I have a really good one on the turbo charger in my Alpha Romeo I shall look for.

Llamas.. maybe:
"To see this mammal in your dreams can represent the deep trust and faith you have in your own personal journey. This animal is symbolizing that you have the strength and endurance to reach your goal. Alternatively this creature could also be putting you on notice that you are worrying too much and *carrying to large a load. "

* Ironic coz llamas are weak ass lazy... and you will carry your own backpack half the way up the mountain.

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I just started watching the new "Mars" TV series, part documentary part drama. Musk is in it of course.

MARS - National Geographic Channel

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Maybe some of you have already seen this game, Elite Dangerous. If you haven't done so yet,
and like astronomy and/or sci-fi , it's well worth taking a look.
https://www.elitedangerous.com:443/en/features/our-galaxy
https://www.elitedangerous.com:443/

It takes place in the 34th century, where mankind has spread to hundreds of star systems.
The ships use a form of warp speed to travel intra-system at multiple times the speed of light
and hyperspace to jump interstellar distances. There are only very rare traces of an alien presence
so far, so the setting is purely human centric. Besides the ongoing background faction politics and
industry in the relatively small corner of known space, anyone can explore across the galaxy.

The creator was an amateur astronomer and evolving from the old 8-bit versions, has created with his team,
probably the best astronomical space sim ever made where all the orbits work in real time and the stars look depending
on where you're at in the galaxy. Over a hundred thousand systems use real world space research data and the well known
nearby stars are well detailed. have fun!


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Maybe some of you have already seen this game, Elite Dangerous. If you haven't done so yet,
and like astronomy and/or sci-fi , it's well worth taking a look.
https://www.elitedangerous.com:443/en/features/our-galaxy
https://www.elitedangerous.com:443/

It takes place in the 34th century, where mankind has spread to hundreds of star systems.
The ships use a form of warp speed to travel intra-system at multiple times the speed of light
and hyperspace to jump interstellar distances. There are only very rare traces of an alien presence
so far, so the setting is purely human centric. Besides the ongoing background faction politics and
industry in the relatively small corner of known space, anyone can explore across the galaxy.

The creator was an amateur astronomer and evolving from the old 8-bit versions, has created with his team,
probably the best astronomical space sim ever made where all the orbits work in real time and the stars look depending
on where you're at in the galaxy. Over a hundred thousand systems use real world space research data and the well known
nearby stars are well detailed. have fun!


Hey Cloudy we have a flight sim thread:

All sims are open and we have talked about Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen.

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Cool, that's a nice stocking stuffer!

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How about this?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/apollo11/apollo-11-flight-plan-re-issue/

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