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Stop the Frack Attack

It’s outrageous: there are no federal rules requiring fracking companies to reveal the litany of hazardous chemicals being pumped into the ground -- and communities across the country have been left defenseless against the fracking frenzy.

The EPA has been dragging its feet on closing this disclosure loophole, allowing our health and safety to take a backseat to the interests of corporate polluters.

But the agency is now inviting the public to comment on this critical issue before September 18.

https://secure.nrdconline.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=3579&...t&utm_campaign=email

The fracking onslaught is wreaking havoc on communities around the country:

A recent Colorado investigation found that the state has been suffering two oil and gas spills per day this year, including toxic chemicals like cancer-causing benzene -- usually without residents even being notified. Several spills contaminated groundwater, and one flowed into a river.

And in places as far flung as Dimock, PA, Pavillion, WY, and Parker County, TX, the EPA has apparently caved to industry pressure and dropped its investigations of fracking pollution, leaving residents to fend for themselves and suffer the consequences.

https://secure.nrdconline.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=3579&...alert&utm_campaign=email

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PS Under the Bush administration, Cheney got a bill that was put into place by Nixon removed, it protected the US from being polluted and that American soil and resources would be protected. The chemicals, they use in fracking are so bad, the above letter, doesn't even state that the chemicals that fracking uses, CAN NEVER BE REMOVED and that part of America is polluted and toxic FOREVER!!!! That means that ground water, is made useless forever, food can never be grown on that soil etc. Thanks to Cheney raping the American economy, environment and our country. This is the legacy the Bush administration has created for our children and future. This is an example of why business and government should be separate, which is what we do not have now. The corporations have bought our representatives and they have got certain bills passed that DO NOT have our best interests at heart and we need to stand up and voice our opinions and make sure our government represents the people and not corporate profits.


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The main problem is contamination of ground water.

Over here we differentiate between

- conventional fracking (asphaltic sandstone)
- non-conventional fracking (coal bed & shale)

Conventional fracking - typically in depths > 10.000 ft - is practiced since many years. Non-conventional fracking is (indirectly) forbidden by most of the federal states.

There is currently a public discussion and a government initiative for a new law which will set up a new legal framework for non-conventional fracking. The law will probably make it difficult for operators to comply with water protection rules.

The fracking industry in the US mainly serves as an example for irresponsibility and recklessness.

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I can not stand the green - eco - hippies that terrorize the German public for many years.

It is the same in many other places in Europe. ( and here in post #1)

The lying & unchecked (state-funded ) press completely fails to educate the public in a balanced way. They are dominated by green - eco - hippie ideology.

politicians and pompous asses like to play the alarmist card - to profile themselves as the messiah.

energy is prosperity.

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I can not stand the green - eco - hippies that terrorize the German public for many years.

It is the same in many other places in Europe. ( and here in post #1)

The lying & unchecked (state-funded ) press completely fails to educate the public in a balanced way. They are dominated by green - eco - hippie ideology.

politicians and pompous asses like to play the alarmist card - to profile themselves as the messiah.

energy is prosperity.


No need to insult anyone. It is important to have different views on a subject.


Energy and prosperity: GDP depends to a much lesser extent on energy than it did back in the eighties.

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The trend will continue until the end of the century.


Fracking is an example of the Tragedy of the Commons. Fracking allows for short term gains, as long term damages are not being accounted for.

However, it would be stupid to make general statements on the subject. In some cases the risk of ground water contamination is high, in other cases it is low. Legislation and control is needed to allow for evaluation of potential damages.

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Rachel has to be a gimmick account.

The amusing thing is I guarantee once solar power becomes cheap and wide spread enough there will be people complaining about some aspect of it and how we need to find something else.

Life is so incredibly easy, with all our needs met with so much to spare some people don't know what to do with themselves other than to complain and find something to be outraged about.


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Your comment is uncalled for.

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The main problem is contamination of ground water.

Over here we differentiate between

- conventional fracking (asphaltic sandstone)
- non-conventional fracking (coal bed & shale)

Conventional fracking - typically in depths > 10.000 ft - is practiced since many years. Non-conventional fracking is (indirectly) forbidden by most of the federal states.

There is currently a public discussion and a government initiative for a new law which will set up a new legal framework for non-conventional fracking. The law will probably make it difficult for operators to comply with water protection rules.

The fracking industry in the US mainly serves as an example for irresponsibility and recklessness.

More than the contamination of groundwater which comes from poor construction of the well in the first place.

I don't like the AMOUNT of freshwater required just to drill each well...upwards to 2 to 4 millions of gallons of FRESH water for each well and more if the well is re-fracked. Then you have the issue of disposal of contaminated water usually by drilling deep injection wells for that purpose.

The USA is not flush with fresh water to begin with. To use this amount of a precious resource is a misuse of resources. In a drought situation, who has first dibs on the water available? The public, agriculture or the O&G fracturing processes???

I read recently a defense of this practice was to point out that Texans waste 10 times as much water by watering its lawns and golf courses. My comment to that is, first comparing one bad practice to another bad practice is hardly justification but secondly, watering lawns and golf courses does not contaminate the water and render it useless for future use the way fracturing process does.

Such watering also does not disrupt the life in small town USA and Canada. You don't see truck upon truck of fresh water traveling into the cities for the purpose of watering lawns and Golf courses....the water pipelines already are there to serve the public. But you do see rural life totally disturbed and damage to roadways by hundreds of trucks bringing in fresh water and removing contaminated waste water for each well in the area.

I found this to be a pretty balanced and easy to read discussion on the effects of Fracking in the Gas industry

http://pacinst.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/full_report5.pdf

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video of fracking for gas

Knowledge is power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cutGpoD3inc

This is the video, I watched a while back, on fracking for gas.
Sorry about the subtitles, couldn't find a version without it.

This film maker paid 100K to get the watered tested from gas fracking.

Water so contaminated, the water catches on fire.

People living in homes that can explode.

Whistle blower: Weston Wilson testimony, around 24 minutes into this video.

I encourage you all to watch the above video and you will understand
the comments, I made in my first post.


at 1:24 minutes into the video, this statement is made by Mr. Albert F Appleton:
The materials used for hydro fracking don't biodegrade once they are in the environment, they are in the environment to stay...

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I found this to be a pretty balanced and easy to read discussion on the effects of Fracking in the Gas industry

http://pacinst.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/full_report5.pdf

Readable, but sadly the usual problem. No science and no economics. It's a series of interviews by a social policy institute running a project that is sponsored by a green drama group that was founded by Wendy, the wife of Mr Google, Eric. (Which also helped distribute 'An Inconvenient Truth', Al's non-science smash graveyard hit.)

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