Like to get to 20K then take 10K out and basically keep repeating, move the 10K to 15K, withdraw at 30K and so on and so forth.

Ofcourse, going to have to borrow into it if none of my clients pay me end of the month which is looking likely!

That's a good plan. Or withdraw every week.





How you gonna pay if you mess up? (I wouldn't trade borrowed money)

Well, just do the math:

How much money you make = win/loss ratio x risk/reward ratio x number of trades x risk per trade.

The first two depend on how good you trade or your system.
The third is a factor of your time-frame (and method).
Risk tolerance is a factor of your account size and maximal drawdown thereshold. Your drawdown probabilites are a factor of your win/loss ratio, risk/reward ratio AND consistency.

Basically the more consistent you are, the more money you can risk until you hit the mathematical cealing.

And as someone else said in an other forum: the 5% who are making money consistently are mostly professionals, with HUGE accounts, meaning the actual number of winning traders are even less

So with the attitude "just get by" it won't be engouh to beat the competition.


10% is not worth working for. You can have passive income with 10% yield.

What is worth for you can be compared to your value of time.

Let's assume you only risk as much for the week as you can earn (with a dayjob). If you double that amount, you had no leverage on your time. If you made more, you are saving time essentially for yourself. Be aware that you leverage your time too much (risk a lot more than you can make in the same amount of time) you put yourself to a lot of stress. This is why it is much better to trade other people's money.

edit: and if you have passive income which is (more than) enough to support your lifestyle; than money can't buy you.

I need to make more than 1.000 US$ per day
for trading to be an alternative to my day job

i don't want to sell trading services
i don't want to createa new idicator
i'm interested to find out if i can make 1.000 US$, preferable 2.000Us$
while beging laser beam focused on day-trading

last week made 200+ ticks with 2 contracts

i worked on a trading plan
and a trading method
i do have funding

i have read a lot, i studied a lot

is it possible
or will i run into the wall ?

Why so much ?? if your on $260,000 per year then why are you trading at all ??

200+ * $20 = $4000 which is 80% there to your target, it was a WILD week except Wednesday though.

Your run into a wall, it'll be your brokers max lot size, how much you can handle fear wise before falling to peices or the amount of money that's available in the world

thank you for your answer...

I am sick of being a prostitute
selling my brain and my knowledge to large corporations that do not respect me

Bottom line i'm an entrepreneur
i like to create, i am most efficient in small structures, 1-10 people, 20 max
i'm very open minded in business,
i like to think out of the box

the trading examples is just with 2 contracts
i have a 15.000$ dollar account
i can ramp it up if needed
the rest (i suppose) is arithmetic and multiplication

=+1.000US$/day is my current life style
i don't thing trading is invalid, if you are making money already ???!!!???
where is the logic ?

unless you can prove that i will never get into that equivalent
then i'll better quite today

for me trading is a business
i have been trading since i was 16 (the director of the bank branch needed to authorize my trades
at that time, because it was not 'usual', not sure if it was illegal)

wrote my! first trading software at 17-18
worked at a broker
and at a major bank

have been there, have seen it

i want to trade and make money
generating ideally on average a daily profit of 2.000 US$ per day

bottom line question : possible or not ?

If all / most of the above it true, they why are you doubting yourself and after people to boost your confidence ??


If all / most of the above is true, then not only possible which it ofcourse is, but highly plausible in a short period of time for you.

amount of money that's available in the world

=+1.000US$/day is my current life style
i don't thing trading is invalid, if you are making money already ???!!!???
where is the logic ?