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I am not fond of sports cars - although I once enjoyed driving a formula car on the Nürburgring.

Maybe, it is not the time to celebrate the nonsense of yesteryear?

Useless sport cars will disappear sooner and later, already today they look to me like dinosaurs.



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United we stand, with our heads in sand! :car:

Don't really care for the depiction of Americans you have in your post @Fattails. We Americans kicked your German butts for the freedom to love and to drive sports cars.

A proud muscle car loving American

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Don't really care for the depiction of Americans you have in your post @Fattails. We Americans kicked your German butts for the freedom to love and to drive sports cars.

A proud muscle car loving American

@dnkhoward2: Thank you for reacting to my deliberate provocation.

The Germans are not better. They focus on manufacturing large cars, and the motorways even don't have a speed limit.

The freedom to drive sports cars affects the freedom of others who share the same biosphere. Freedom usually ends where it affects the freedom of others.

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@dnkhoward2: Thank you for reacting to my deliberate provocation.

The Germans are not better. They focus on manufacturing large cars, and the motorways even don't have a speed limit.

The freedom to drive sports cars affects the freedom of others who share the same biosphere. Freedom usually ends where it affects the freedom of others.

I don't really think that liking fast cars or even owning one hurts those around me. I don't agree with or embrace the globalization thought or the current eco religion that is so popular these days so we are coming from different world views. My Lord and my Bible says don't worry about tomorrow. And I trust Him when He says He is my provider so I don't have a lack mentality when it comes to these things or anything. The world view (religion) religion you speak of in in contridiction with mine. So I respectfully disagree.

This thread is about muscle cars and going fast so I think we better stick more to that topic.

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@dnkhoward2: Thank you for reacting to my deliberate provocation.

The Germans are not better. They focus on manufacturing large cars, and the motorways even don't have a speed limit.

The freedom to drive sports cars affects the freedom of others who share the same biosphere. Freedom usually ends where it affects the freedom of others.

Cars contribute to only a small portion of pollution and you know that. Most damage to biosphere comes from animal farms and power plants. So ease up on these bratwursten und wienerschnitzels and lit up the candle :-)

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Cars contribute to only a small portion of pollution and you know that. Most damage to biosphere comes from animal farms and power plants. So ease up on these bratwursten und wienerschnitzels and lit up the candle :-)


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Your interpretation of the commmons is exactly what destroys our environment. There is always a reason not to take care. (Nearly) every thief can point to a larger thief.


Concerning Bratwurst and Schnitzel you are absolutely right.


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which is only partly reflected in the obesity index.

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I did not want to post too much off-topic. I must admit that I am also fascinated by fast and elegant cars.

But it was more of a legitimate passion in the 20th century, when fast cars stood for technological progress while today they stand for recklessness and unnecessary pollution.

I would prefer this one ....


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I have once seen a race where that car beat a Porsche 911 Targa.

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@Fat Tails, the problem is Methane is many times more dangerous to creating greenhouse effects than CO2, hence Methane produced by cows and pigs (and people for sure too, more by vegans!) is generating bigger problem than percentage suggests.

On a sports cars matter. You live in Germany so you must be perfectly aware that a modern german sports car has a smaller fuel consumption in a regular cycle than an average american family wagon. My CLK350 is far from new (2006) but does around 10L/100km at 160 km/h. My friends fresher 330d does than with just 8 l of diesel per 100. New M6 or R8 diesel consume even less but provide ridiculous performance. So it's not sportscars, but ignorance that ruins this planet. Technology is overcoming issues very quickly, but lobbyists, politicians and cartels try to keep status quo.

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@Fat Tails, the problem is Methane is many times more dangerous to creating greenhouse effects than CO2, hence Methane produced by cows and pigs (and people for sure too, more by vegans!) is generating bigger problem than percentage suggests.

On a sports cars matter. You live in Germany so you must be perfectly aware that a modern german sports car has a smaller fuel consumption in a regular cycle than an average american family wagon. My CLK350 is far from new (2006) but does around 10L/100km at 160 km/h. My friends fresher 330d does than with just 8 l of diesel per 100. New M6 or R8 diesel consume even less but provide ridiculous performance. So it's not sportscars, but ignorance that ruins this planet. Technology is overcoming issues very quickly, but lobbyists, politicians and cartels try to keep status quo.

Not to forget the emissions of nitrous oxide .... Global Warming Potentials

But I think this goes too far for this thread....

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