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Ok we're officially in off-topic mode.
So what do you guys think is going on with Lost? I'm a bit lost this season
It seems they are living out two different lives at the same time? Right? In both cases, it is present day it seems? One "present day" is what happens when the flight lands safely at LAX, and the other present day is back on the island?
For a while I thought the island is some kind of hell, and they were dead. What do you think?
So we know Locke can turn into the Smoke Monster, I guess that means the prior Smoke Monster we saw was Jacob, right?
What do you think about the Japanese guy (can't remember his name -- the one who always uses a translator at the Temple yet speaks perfect English). Is this guy a good guy or bad guy? He seems to be concerned about Jacob/Locke (aka Smoke Monster), so does that make him friend or foe of Jack, Kate and the others?
Also, do you think Juliet is really dead? I liked her character, so I hope not. I liked her and Sawyer together, so I hope they end up together.
Yes, it seems Sawyer was wrong or only half right when he said Jack had failed. It looks like it split them or made doubles. The prior/current smoke monster is the other mysterious old timer who was Jacobs nemesis who couldn't kill Jacob himself. He had to change his form to look like Locke to trick Ben into killing Jacob. Now he has no counterbalance on the island to keep him in check.
I think this season has been great so far but it just doesn't lend itself to much discussion.
4 episodes back I would have laughed if someone said Claire would be a bad guy and they would be both on and off the island by episode 3 of the new season...
One thing I thought was interesting this week was how things kind of mirrored
what happened on the island with Claire in the version of them not crashing with being paranoid about her baby.
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What did everyone think of the last episode?
Hmmmm.
Man I really enjoyed it, the story on this alternate Locke is really good. But I am concerned, how are they going to answer all the questions?? I mean there are only what, 12 episodes left? They've got a lot of explaining still to do
I think this season will one to remember out of all them. There is so much hype from the media, studio, producers, and critics that anything short of spectacular would be a major disappointment. The reality of their lives as if the plane never crashed in the first place is causing a harsh look at how their lives were really miserable and even amongst the danger and chaos on the island they had a real purpose and drive, ie, survival, work together, and making making real choices that effect the outcomes of their well being, and using their talents/character to live on this mysterious island. I think the show is great and wish there were more seasons in the future as most shows on TV these days are horrific.
I thought last episode was fantastic, but I care less about old questions being answered and more that the story comes to a satisfying conclusion.
I thought awhile back that the story was trying to go for some free will vs determinism theme, they seemed to have left that theme for awhile but I do think that is what in the end the show will be about.
No way they are going to wrap the story up in a neat little package for us though...I wouldn't doubt the ending will be david lynchesque, kind of making sense but largely not and alot of people are going to hate it.
I hate TV shows pretty much too, once this is over and I'm down I'm going to finally start watching The Wire, which I know will dull the pain..
I can't believe that they gave Ben the redemption bus pass. Never liked that dude. The theme, it seemed up until now, is that those with a bad track record are going with Locke. We'll have to see how this shakeout affects Kate and Jin before the final ho-down. It's good to see Jack finally get his mojo back.
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Speaking of Hurley... unless I missed something, he added a few things in that "with the dead" conversation between Isabella and Ricardo. Didn't he tell Richard Alpert that Isabella said they have to stop the dude in black, but she didn't really say that right? Maybe I just missed it.
Yeah, I just watched it, I wasn't really sure if he was speaking for her or not. I was glad to finally hear Richard's story though, I liked it. So it's the hellmouth, not really purgatory, and I am assuming Jacob works for God. But if when he brings people there they are dead (because he killed them or they just died?), then how can they still die on the Island? Then how did Darma and Whitmore and the others come to the Island when Jacob didn't bring them? I don't see how they can be dead like Richard was saying.
The latest Lost episode was great. There are numerous roles upon the island that are finally being translated to the viewer now. Who is who and what exactly they do or actually what they have to do to keep the balance within the island. I believe the above poster is correct in stating that there was no verbage from Isabella in Hurley's supposed translation, at least I did not pick it up. As if he made it up to get Richard to continue his job (Jacob probably told Hurley what to tell Richard) for motivation. I would imagine there will be a future war between the good and evil of the island (black vs white battle). There are rules to the island that everyone has to follow, much like the Matrix- so how do you bend "the spoon". Great season, I will be sad to see it end.
Maybe a poll can go up to who will replace Jacob? Jack, Hurley, Kate, Sawyer, Jin, Sun, Sayid? Not sure if Walt was on that list, but he still could make an appearance.
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Maybe Hurley told Richard some stuff that Isabella was saying to him earlier when he was speaking to nobody and was asked if he was talking to Jacob. Also as far as hell is concerned, remember that the Man in Black may say anything to coerce people to follow him and also remember that the survivors who made it back to civilization the first time couldn't have been dead. As far as I'm concerned, Jack has no mojo. His decisions are always off the cuff and seem likely to ruin everything.
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The last episode didn't really do it for me. Wasn't very exciting. And I really thought at the end the item in the submarine would have been the kid, not the guy it was (name escapes me, but he always says "friend").
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Watched the new episode tonight.
Finally, I feel like we're making some headway!
So, I'm guessing Desmond is not dead, and has in fact turned Sayid back against Locke. Desmond, since the last episode, also seems to know the outcome of things or have complete confidence in himself.
I'm really thinking it's going to end up being a showdown between Desmond and Locke, especially considering the first thing Locke did upon finding out of Desmond's existence, was to try and kill him. Of course, he didn't kill him himself, which to me indicates that he can't do it himself.
Not to get too deep, but I think the showdown ultimately is between FAITH(Jacob) and FREEWILL(man in Black).Kind of ironic that "man in black" took over Locke's body considering that Locke had the most FAITH in the island out of all the Flight 815'ers...
Imo, the whole show is about how religion suppresses people and how the powerful are willing to go to war rather then let the "genie out of the bottle" or Locke(man in black) off the island...
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I have it all figured out! Jack will somehow kill Locke/Smoke monster, possibly with help from Desmond. To restore the good/evil balance somehow, I'm looking at Ben to become Jacks nemesis.
I am just getting ready to start watching Lost for the first time. I hate waiting for new episodes of great series' , so I have been waiting years for Lost to finish up so I can watch them all back to back on DVD. Plus I was little worried that they'd never finish the series and it would die off unfinished (like so many other great series have done) that I wanted to wait and see if it ended coherently or not.
So as soon as this last season is out on DVD me and my GF are starting on a serious Lost marathon.
Any plot points I should pay special attention to as a first-time watcher?
I have a bold prediction: Ben will kill Locke (black monster) because Locke promised to hand over the island to Ben upon his departure, but upon the escape of Desmond from the well, Locke figured out that this works out to his advantage and that he can destroy the Island through Desmond. If he destroys the Island, then Locke's promise to Ben will be worthless. In addition, Locke will off guard to Ben's reaction to his betrayal.
By the way, I have watched the entire first five seasons only recently--all because of the posting of the Hurley automated strategy. In researching the Hurley strategy, I decided to continue the research... Thanks to Big Mike!
First five seasons are available on Netflix through their instant queue. You can watch them without commercials. Right now all season-6 episodes (to date) are available on Lost - Full Episodes and Clips streaming online for free - Hulu (with limited commercials). After the airing of the final episode on Sunday at 7:00pm, only the last six episodes of the current season will available on hulu.
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OK, I got it wrong. Kate killed MiB who was impersonating the deceased Locke. Kate had already killed her biological father, who she thought was her abusive step-father. This relieved Jack from having to kill the MiB, thus avoiding the murderous taint of his short reign as the protector of the island as had his two predecessors. I was right in that Ben did actually turn against Locke which prepared him to serve as Hurley's no. 2 upon his accession to the Protector of the Island.
I don't know, I would have liked to discuss this but thought that the final episode was so bad it largely ruined the entire show for me. A lot of carrying on about nothing.
