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I was riding home on the train last night and the guy sitting next to me was playing some sort of shooter game like Quake on an iPad. Holding the table up near his face and shooting a lot of enemies. it looked like very good graphics, very compelling gameplay.

So, I want to get into gaming. Starting at this age, 55, I know I will never get to a deep level of gaming skill, but I think I need to have more play in my life.

So, do I get a PS4 or an iPad Air? Looks like about the same price.

I am sure the PS4 will have more horsepower, and I suppose the games may be better in some way. Or is that true?

And the Big Picture question, isn't mobile gaming on tablets and phones, with games as cheap $5 apps, now in the process of killing off the old gaming world of PS and Xbox? The games are so much more expensive. If mobile gaming is the future, wouldn't it be a better idea strategically to just go with the mobile platform and forget about the console?

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So, do I get a PS4 or an iPad Air? Looks like about the same price.

I am sure the PS4 will have more horsepower, and I suppose the games may be better in some way. Or is that true?

And the Big Picture question, isn't mobile gaming on tablets and phones, with games as cheap $5 apps, now in the process of killing off the old gaming world of PS and Xbox? The games are so much more expensive. If mobile gaming is the future, wouldn't it be a better idea strategically to just go with the mobile platform and forget about the console?

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The PS4 has a lot more horsepower, and the games are much better. Consoles are dedicated gaming machines, that is what they do. Tablets and phones can do games but it is not their principal use.

I don't think mobile gaming is competing with console/pc gaming, they are two different markets. You could kind of make the same comparison between a tablet and a laptop or desktop. The experience between a tablet/smartphone vs a console/desktop is very different. I play games on my phone while waiting somewhere like a doctors office. I have an iPad2 but don't take it out of the house and use it 90% for reading, an electronic book/magazine. I tried playing games on it but they are very limited two button games. My 4 year old nephew loves playing games on the iPad and iPhone, he can't use a console yet, it would be too complicated for him. The console control has about 8 buttons, plus more functions while pressing another button simultaneously so it could have 16 buttons plus the other 3 controls. Things can get complicated. Mobile gaming is more casual, console/pc gaming is for the serious dedicated gamer.

If you want to try out console like gaming, try out pc games. They get cheap after a while and have similar graphics, only the control is different since you use the keyboard and mouse.

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>>You could kind of make the same comparison between a tablet and a laptop or desktop

People do make that comparison, and by some metrics it's apparent that PC sales are declining with the rise of the tablet. Recently, when familiy members etc. ask me for advice on replacing their computer, I tell them they should just forget about computers and get a tablet. Less troublesome.

The argument I hear from the mobility perspective is that console and PC game sales have been declining (at least until these latest machines arrived), and that, for better or worse the overwhelming economics of of "billions" of mobile devices will eventually suck all the oxygen out of the room for console games and PC games. Since the legacy business model is based on an outdated price structure and a dwindling hardcore userbase that cannot compete against these appified games at $5 with the general public. So, the argument goes, the development money will all move to mobility and legacy gaming will increasingly deteriorate until it collapses.

Obviously nobody who is a hardcore gamer wants to believe this scenario could materialize. I myself find it hard to believe, along with the idea that appification or Youtube is going to kill the network TV distribution channel. Never gonna happen, right?

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Whoa I thought we were just talking about playing a game.

On the tablet vs computer, when people ask me I tell them it depends what they want to use it for. If you plan on just playing angry birds and checking out facebook then maybe a tablet is perfect. If you need to run programs you need a computer. Tablets don't run thinkorswim, ninja trader, Microsoft Office, Adobe Design Suite, I have several design programs, Revit, Autocad, 3ds Max, Music programs, Video editing programs.... etc the list is very extensive as to why I need a computer.

The news loves to create panic, fear. PC SALES ARE DWINDLING, PEOPLE ONLY WANT TABLETS NOW. THE STOCK MARKET IS ABOUT TO CRASH. JENNIFER LAWRENCE CUT HER HAIR. It will be alright. People still need and buy computers. These appified $5 games are very, very, different from pc games, like full programs are very different from apps. The Xbone and PS4 sold over a million units in the first 24 hours, supposedly their best opening day, better than the last one so no decline in sales so far.

I don't see your death of the pc and console apocalypse materializing. The reason being they are different. Not everyone is the same and has the same needs. There will be people who need a pc, there will be people who just need a tablet. There will be people who like playing on a tablet/phone, there will be people who like playing on a pc, there will be people who like playing on a console, there will be pc people who hate console people, xbox people who hate ps4 people. Unless we start cloning people and taking away their individuality we wont all want the same thing. A market will be bigger than another, but that does not mean it will make the smaller market disappear.

Anyhow... is any of this really cause for concern for anybody? I just wanted to play a game, now, so I bought a console, the ps4, which I am enjoying tremendously. I can't play a tablet or phone game for more than 5 minutes. Only game I play is tetris on my phone, which is not something I would play on my pc or ps4. Different "needs".

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Sorry for hijacking this topic about playing a game!

I guess it boils down to the argument I made elsewhere about the samurai sword vs. the Swiss army knife. We all know which is better.

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