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No milk taste surprisingly


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Everything sounds good, except the word "milk". Yuk!

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Nah man, If the label were removed I'd have no idea there was milk involved. Actually I have no idea if there is even milk in it. I just thought hell might as well try something new lol

I went to this huge liquor supermarket on my stop home so my girl could pick up some margarita mix that she couldn't find anywhere else, and I asked one of the indie beer connoisseurs which six pack of stouts he'd prefer that I haven't had, and this milk stout is what he suggested.

I'm pretty good at reading people, and from his demeanor and overall persona I knew that beer and brewing was his passion. I made the right call and next time I'll go to him again.

You know Mike it's hard to find great beers because there are so many of them. If it weren't for people like that who've tried them all I'd be lost. It's like a hit or miss without these people most take for granted. I mean obviously you can go on beerpal.com and browse for the top rated but I think this is more of a natural and hands on approach. I like engaging with people and getting their opinions.


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nah man, If the label were removed I'd have no idea there was milk involved. Actually I have no idea if there is even milk in it.

I went to this huge liquor supermarket on my stop home so my girl could pick up some margarita mix that she couldn't find anywhere else, and I asked one of the indie beer connoisseurs which six pack of stouts he'd prefer that I haven't had, and this milk stout is what he suggested.

I'm pretty good at reading people, and from his demeanor and overall persona I knew that beer and brewing was his passion. I made the right call and next time I'll go to him again.

You know Mike it's hard to find great beers because there are so many of them. If it weren't for people like that who've tried them all I'd be lost. It's like a hit or miss without these people most take for granted. I mean obviously you can go on beerpal.com and browse for the top rated but I think this is more of a natural and hands on approach. I like engaging with people and getting their opinions.

I don't always quote myself but If I did then I'll try to be as smooth as Bill doing so

lol I always write how I talk in person (my voice) and it comes out all funky even though I want it to be smooth like Bill, oh well. I guess adding commas help somewhat. No, I'm not drunk and surprisingly I don't even drink stouts to get drunk. If I were to go that route I'd prefer mixed drinks or something of the like. Either way, I just like drinking one or two stouts maximum. I'm a firm believer that after If I drink more than one or two stouts they lose their original flavor in my taste. I don't know exactly how that happens but the flavor does change somehow. Maybe I get sick of the beer or my body starts to become weighed down by the calories, but I definitely notice a change.


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#2 nitro review with a little Bill twist




Okay baby I know what you're thinking, you see a youtube video of Bill and as you guessed I got a little good vibrations going on from this nitro stuff.

This beer isn't as great as it's predecessor namely because it isn't a stout, but it does have it's great qualities. It's very clean, refreshing, and citrusy (yes I did just make that word up). I don't know how else to explain it other than it being very oh so pure it tastes like it came from the likes of a magical waterfall blessed by Bill Clinton. Very easy to drink and with absolutely no bad flavors. Not much flavors at all but not watery. This is a very unusual beer because usually with watered down beers they taste awful but this has got to be the best watered down beer there is! Just like the best watered down president there ever was! We didn't love him but we didn't hate him, but damn he sure could talk his way out of anything!

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Sorry about all the Bill Clinton stuff Mike. Sometimes I just go with things and have to finish em


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The "milk" most likely comes from the milk based sugar (lactose) that they add. It's not fully fermentable, so adds some sweetness along with body.

I found a clone receipe for the left hand milk stout, so I might give that a try some time.

Amount Item Type % or IBU
7 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (3.0 SRM) Grain 56.57 %
1 lbs Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 8.08 %
12.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 6.06 %
12.0 oz Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 6.06 %
12.0 oz Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 6.06 %
10.0 oz Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 5.05 %
8.0 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 4.04 %
0.35 oz Magnum [12.10 %] (60 min) Hops 18.4 IBU
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (10 min) Hops 4.3 IBU
1 lbs Milk Sugar (Lactose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 8.08 %
1 Pkgs SafAle American Ale (DCL Yeast #S-05) Yeast-Ale

This won a local beer comp, so probably tastes pretty good, even if it's not an exact match

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The "milk" most likely comes from the milk based sugar (lactose) that they add. It's not fully fermentable, so adds some sweetness along with body.

I found a clone receipe for the left hand milk stout, so I might give that a try some time.

Amount Item Type % or IBU
7 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (3.0 SRM) Grain 56.57 %
1 lbs Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 8.08 %
12.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 6.06 %
12.0 oz Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 6.06 %
12.0 oz Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 6.06 %
10.0 oz Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 5.05 %
8.0 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 4.04 %
0.35 oz Magnum [12.10 %] (60 min) Hops 18.4 IBU
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (10 min) Hops 4.3 IBU
1 lbs Milk Sugar (Lactose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 8.08 %
1 Pkgs SafAle American Ale (DCL Yeast #S-05) Yeast-Ale

This won a local beer comp, so probably tastes pretty good, even if it's not an exact match

Thank you @sixtyseven, Well there you go @Big Mike! No milk lol

Try yourself out some milk stout. I suggest to try all of em. I never had pumpkin, oatmeal, Baltic, porter, or oyster stouts. (all the other ones I've had like chocolate, Irish, imperial, and oatmeal) But I will try them out and post them here one by one as time goes by. I may take a while since I don't drink often but I'll get em.


sixtyseven have you had an Oyster stout? I'm really curious what it tastes like just due to it's oddity HAHA


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Oh man I love oysters! Maybe even more than hamburgers. And I'll tell ya what, I'd rather taste a oyster beer than a hamburger beer.

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I've never heard of oysters being used as an ingredient. I'm not keen to try that out.

I was curious, so looked up some receipes. 16oz of canned oysters one guy used. Not all receipes use the meat, some dump in the shells.

Just for those not aware, chocolate, coffee, caramel in beer comes from the speciality malts - they are roasted in a certain way. Those grains are mostly unfermentable, so add little alcohol content, but impart a lot of flavour, along with other characteristics such as body, mouth feel etc.

There's a lot of science in the whole brewing thing. Apparently engineers as a group make up the biggest proportion of home brewers. I've only made 19 batches, all with extract, speciality grains & hops. Still have a lot to learn.

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I've never heard of oysters being used as an ingredient. I'm not keen to try that out.

I was curious, so looked up some receipes. 16oz of canned oysters one guy used. Not all receipes use the meat, some dump in the shells.

Just for those not aware, chocolate, coffee, caramel in beer comes from the speciality malts - they are roasted in a certain way. Those grains are mostly unfermentable, so add little alcohol content, but impart a lot of flavour, along with other characteristics such as body, mouth feel etc.

There's a lot of science in the whole brewing thing. Apparently engineers as a group make up the biggest proportion of home brewers. I've only made 19 batches, all with extract, speciality grains & hops. Still have a lot to learn.

What are your favorite type of beers? I was going to ask you what your favorite beer was (not just type) and try to find it but I realize you don't live in the USA so I wouldn't be able to get it here.

You probably have better beer there by far!

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I'm really liking hoppy beers at the moment, so brewing mostly those. American IPA actually, so using American hops - Amarillo, Citra, Chinnock, Simcoe, Centennial. They have a lot of citrus, pine, grapefruit flavours.

My favourite beers come from a Danish brewery called Ugly Duckling Brewery - they win all the Danish craft beer comps. They used a lot of the American hops and I have tried to copy those. I'm pretty close I think. I first got on to the hoppy style by trying Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, and Torpedeo. But after re-tasting these they are really lacking in flavour compared to the Ugly Duck, and I've been able to bring out a lot more hop flavour in my beers by using a "hop stand". You add a lot of hops after the boil, while the wort is cooling, and hold at various temperatures levels. Hops are made up of a lot of different oils, and boiling them can drive off the flavour. But you need to boil for a long time to extract the bitterness. So you add at different times to get the different characteristics you want. You then then to balance with the right amount of malt. You can really geek out a lot with beer if you want. I'm really happy for the Beersmith calculator I have.

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I'm really liking hoppy beers at the moment, so brewing mostly those. American IPA actually, so using American hops - Amarillo, Citra, Chinnock, Simcoe, Centennial. They have a lot of citrus, pine, grapefruit flavours.

My favourite beers come from a Danish brewery called Ugly Duckling Brewery - they win all the Danish craft beer comps. They used a lot of the American hops and I have tried to copy those. I'm pretty close I think. I first got on to the hoppy style by trying Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, and Torpedeo. But after re-tasting these they are really lacking in flavour compared to the Ugly Duck, and I've been able to bring out a lot more hop flavour in my beers by using a "hop stand". You add a lot of hops after the boil, while the wort is cooling, and hold at various temperatures levels. Hops are made up of a lot of different oils, and boiling them can drive off the flavour. But you need to boil for a long time to extract the bitterness. So you add at different times to get the different characteristics you want. You then then to balance with the right amount of malt. You can really geek out a lot with beer if you want. I'm really happy for the Beersmith calculator I have.

That sounds like it would be so easy to get lost testing each different subtle change considering the myriad of possibilities. See I was told Sierra Nevada was a good introduction into hoppy beers so I tried it and hated it because of how bitter it was thinking hops equated directly to bitterness. Boy was I wrong. My next hoppy beer really opened my eyes and now I love hops.

This is the beer that made me love hops
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Anyways, The science of brewing is very interesting because it's one of those things that can be hands on and legal. I know it's not entirely instantly gratifying, but it's something that can be indulged with multiple senses, share socially, and potentially money making if done properly. Seems like the perfect a fun hobby.

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