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U.S. Debt Clock like you have never seen. This has trading ramifications!

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The Rothschilds have been orchestrating wars and economic "pullbacks" for centuries. The best time to buy assets is just after the economy tanks...and those with money and assets are in the best position to take advantage.

The globalist agenda plays right into the liberal indoctrination that our schools have been brainwashing kids for years. Our children have grown to hate America and whether it's pollution or "sustainability" or any number of iceberg concepts, the liberals who push for globalization of world governments play right into the entire charade.

Lybia wasn't about a tyrant. It wasn't about oil. It was about a nation that had huge gold reserves and wasn't under the thumb of central banks. Iran isn't under the thumb of central banks either....notice a trend here? The opium production in Afghanistan came to a screeching halt in 2000 under the taliban, but now it's back to pre-Taliban levels. The CIA needs their drug trade to fund all their black ops and off book operations.

People in America are so inundated by "normalcy bias" that they refuse to believe that anything so sinister and contrived could EVER happen. It's unbelievable to them, which is exactly why it's working.

People who refuse to believe the government was complicit in Oklahoma City or 9-11 should read about operation Northwoods, which was approved by the Joint Chiefs and all the way to elected and cabinet level positions. Kennedy ultimately nixed the idea and low and behold, Kennedy was bumped off. Within weeks of Johnson's swearing in, he squashed Kennedy's plans to return the monetary system to some semblence of sound currency. Low and behold, the final straw in the destruction of the Gold standard happened in 1971....we're TOTALLY dependent upon central banks and fiat/debt based currency at this point. The entire system is based upon nothing but debt.

(Most Americans don't realize that it's ILLEGAL to own gold as an asset, since 1933.) Try collecting your own Gold and smelting it into bricks to keep in your freezer and then tell someone about it and see if someone doesn't come knocking at your door. In order for the system to work, citizens cannot be permitted to hold anything of real value. You can invest in gold ETFs and derivatives, but see what happens if the system crashes and you try to redeem your value.

bah, it's all just conspiracy theories. Pay no attention. Ron Paul only predicted the housing crisis in 2001 (along with how it would happen, the GSE debacle with FNMA and Freddie and the derivatives markets).

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All I know is when this does finally hit the fan in comparison being a citizen of Greece might look like Shangri-La.

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All I know is when this does finally hit the fan in comparison being a citizen of Greece might look like Shangri-La.

Yep, Greece lost their soveriegnty without a single shot fired. Now a group of foreign governments (lobbied and influenced by a group of foreign banks) gets to determine what Greek policy must be and cannot be.

Everyone should check out Iceland and ask themselves....why oh why are we not hearing ANYTHING about it on the mainstream news? In 1950, there was over 250 independent news/communications networks. Today, 95% of the media is controlled by 5 or 6 parent companies who are largely owned by banks and other large corporations. And people wondered why the government is so interested in SOPA/PIPA...because they know that the internet is a form of freedom of information, outside the control of the mainstream media.

SOPA/PIPA will surface again.....I suspect the government will generate some sort of "terrorist" or deliberate attack on the internet/commo infrastructure that will give them the political backing to emplace new laws which allow the government to "regulate" internet sites, providers, etc.......that way if anyone steps too far out of line in the future, they can step in to "protect" us.

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Ya think?

What you don't realize is that they WANT it to crash. The next step toward a new, one world government is to crash the global economy and wreck the $USD so that Americans will be in such bad shape that we'll agree to new financial solutions (aka a new currency and/or bailouts from a coalition of international banks and governments).

The one world government agenda is real. It's not a joke or a conspiracy theory. But the PTB know that the only way you can make that stick in the $US is to start removing the American citizens rights to bear arms...start preparing with internment camps, military-style police forces etc.

While Americans sit idly by, the Department of Homeland Security is ordering 600 MILLION rounds of ammunition....dozens of "armored ambush vehicles" they've paved the way for 30 THOUSAND drone flights by 2020, the President just signed an executive order allowing him to indefinitely detain Americans without trial or charge or notification. FEMA has recently revamped their plans to include over 600 different "emergency" camps (aka internment camps).

The people are asleep and the government is preparing for the economic collapse. They know it's coming, they WANT it to come, which will push us right into the waiting arms of the UN and foreign banks. And if the people resist, they'll be thrown in internment camps. The difference between the US and Greece is that 1% of the American population represents the largest standing Army in the Western Hemisphere. Why do you think they're pushing so hard to get the UN small arms treaty rammed through? Why do you think the FBI and the government are trying so hard to foster and facilitate mass shootings? (so that they can scare the people into giving up on gun rights and keep sliding until only the police/government have them).

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12 years ago, the government was in surplus, and projected to retire the debt in 2013 ( next year )


Just sayin

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Well, that debt clock is shocking.. But there is one good solution, a commodity that could create hundreds of thousands of jobs and a great consumption tax draw. Sweet Mary Jane. 56% of Americans are in favor of legalization. They see it's merits and value as did many of the US founding fathers, Washington and Jefferson themselves avid growers and users of one of natures true healing treasures. The amount consumed in dollar value is close in scope to the 1/2 trillion guzzeld in gasoline each year. It would surely pay the interest on that debt at any rate. But oh no, the sweet little plant is EVIL according to GOD, I have heard... right.... In fact Jesus himself, and his disciples were users of the holy weed...

BBC NEWS | Health | Cannabis linked to Biblical healing[/url]

So anyways, there's a solution that will more than service the debt and create real jobs and business... Unfortunately a whole lot of people have something against personal liberty and freedom....

The only reason it isn't legal here yet is the US Drug czar has very long reach... it should be though, and I really hope people see the light.. We have very high taxes on cigarettes and alcohol, a pack of cigarettes in this country is 12 dollars, 90% tax, we tax that s#IT cos we have a healthcare system to pay for.... could do the same for the marijuana, albeit it is actually a cure for cancer and many other ills, still, i'm sure most would be happy to pay for the freedom....


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12 years ago, the government was in surplus, and projected to retire the debt in 2013 ( next year )


Just sayin

If you look here:
https://futures.io/off-topic/22182-2012-election-3.html#post257518

You can see growth was exploding, so it is not a real surprise he was able to do this. Still, a good day for America and now it seems impossible to get back to that point. We certainly can't do it from growth, we need to do it from spending cuts. And start with the military and entitlement programs.

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12 years ago, the government was in surplus, and projected to retire the debt in 2013 ( next year )


Just sayin

This means at best, the CBO has no idea what's going to happen in 10 years......

It also just goes to show you that increasing taxes won't do a thing to help the deficit. Politicians will simply increase spending if we give them additional revenues.

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This means at best, the CBO has no idea what's going to happen in 10 years......

It also just goes to show you that increasing taxes won't do a thing to help the deficit. Politicians will simply increase spending if we give them additional revenues.

Umm.. Not really what I was saying.

The retiring of the debt was projected before 9/11, the Bush tax cuts of 2001/2003 and the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan, right when the red ink comes back.

My point was that we were on at least a general direction of retiring the debt. ( Not debating weather we were really in surplus etc ) That when times were good, and we were going in the right direction, the country went on a spending and tax cut binge that put us into the red again.

If we had kept our house in order back then, we wouldn't be in the place where we are now. I think there is a debate that needs to happen with the American population, and that is how much government we are willing to pay for and how we pay for it.

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