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How many bankers and hedge fund mangers pay for peoples retirement? But who needs 401K's, just create another government program for retirement and tax the rich to pay for it. Brilliant!!


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There are over 45 million Americans on food stamps, a record, with no end in sight.

The best way to address that would be through lowering unemployment and improving education. I believe that no matter who is elected, we will see unemployment improve over the next 4 years. As for education, it will undoubtedly worsen, as it does every year -- we get further and further behind the curve.

The Education problem cannot be solved by throwing money at it. You can look at many other countries and see they approach education from a very different viewpoint, and it is very important in their culture - while here it is often viewed as nothing more than subsidized day care.

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Why is Romney's tax plan so secret? Why have both Romney and Paul said that they refuse to disclose details, because if they did, you wouldn't vote for it?

Does that sound like something that is going to benefit the average American?

No, it sounds like something that is going to benefit the 1%. According to some website gizmo someone posted a while back, I fall in the 2% category if I recall. I don't want "help" from the government at the expense of hurting the majority of people. I am doing just fine, thank you. Money is not an issue for me, just like it's not an issue for anyone else in the 1% or 2% or 5% and so forth. But money is an issue for the majority of people in the country, yet Romney is not going to help those people.

If he was, then why wouldn't he disclose his tax plan now and gain more popular vote?

The only rebuttal would be that his tax plan goes against the billionaires that are funding his campaign, and that he is going to stiff them and tell them to shove it. How likely do you think that is?

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There are over 45 million Americans on food stamps, a record, with no end in sight.

The best way to address that would be through lowering unemployment and improving education. I believe that no matter who is elected, we will see unemployment improve over the next 4 years. As for education, it will undoubtedly worsen, as it does every year -- we get further and further behind the curve.

The Education problem cannot be solved by throwing money at it. You can look at many other countries and see they approach education from a very different viewpoint, and it is very important in their culture - while here it is often viewed as nothing more than subsidized day care.

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I agree with you but consider that obama's answer is to just throw money at everything and declare it fixed (fact is most of his doling out cash is for union bailouts and favors for cronys). That's not to say Romney won't do pretty much the same thing except give it to different groups but it would be to a lesser extent and I'm thinking he would look for some kind of accountability at least.

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Keep this in mind when voting for Obama......

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Most of Obama's people were carry throughs from Bush. He also has more high level positions filled by his opposing party, Republicans, than any other President in history as I recall (can Google that later).

I'm not defending him, those people suck. But I think you are wrong if you think Romney would put in anyone who has the interest of the average American at heart. The only thing important to Romney are Corporations, and Corporations do not have the best interest of their employees at heart. Only their share holders.

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You fail to see the big picture. Corporations employ people. Corporations give out raises. Corporations allow family s to live out their version of the American dream. They provide healthcare and 401k and profit sharing. Have you ever thought about all the people and children who will be hurt when your candidate taxes corporations out of business. How many family's will lose everything and be on the street because you decided that corporations were evil and you couldnt vote for a candidate who supported them? Its easy to say corporations are evil but they are a necessary evil.

Lets not forget how many corporations you use to run your business right now Everything from your server to your computer to broker to markets you trade. Take those corporations away and what are you left with?

When you leave the country in few years think about what your going to leave us with. If the US goes the world will decay into chaos and your dream retirement wont be far behind.

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You fail to see the big picture.

Corporate profits have seen record highs in recent years, while unemployment is also at record highs. Corporations are hoarding record amounts of cash, while the number of people on food stamps is at a record high.

Kind of a disconnect, yes?

Corporations are not here to help Americans. They are here to make as much money as possible.

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