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Romney 50%, Obama 46% Among Likely Voters

Obama down sharply among men, college grads, and Southern voters vs. 2008


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I'm with you on Libertarian ideals, though I don't see why you automatically put them in the Republican side of the equation. After all, Thomas Jefferson was a liberal, one of the greatest. To say that Romney is going to make government smaller is laughable. This is a man who believes corporations are people. And if you were unsure about this fact, corporations are the new government. They didn't have those in the days of our libertarian heroes. Saying Romney is more libertarian than Obama is nonsense. He's just going to feed his corporations and put more emphasis into the areas of government they want. If you believe you have libertarian ideals, the choice is clear, if you are honest with yourself, you vote for Gary Johnson.


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as much as I would have loved to see Ron Paul as the nominee, the idea of him beating Obama is not realistic. Until the resent debate, so was the idea of Romney doing it so I guess that is neither here nor there. BUT, the idea of a Johnson candidacy being taken seriously is simply over the top. I'd view myself as equally Libertarian and Republican although the republican half is harder to admit these days.

Shouldn't any sane Libertarian vote for anyone but Obama, or is it such to the Libertarian purist that Romney is just as bad only a different bad? My Paleo-Conservative underpinnings (the source of my Libertarianism) just demand that anyone but O, even if they are not perfect.

No doubt a third party Libertarian takes from Romney and helps Obama. Isn't four more years of that, way worse from a typical Libertarian perspective or do I not get it?

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I'm in Illinois so my vote either way is just an exercise. I'd never vote for a guy in the general election that would be stripping votes from the lesser of two evils..lol I do not necessarily agree with you but to go your way...Romney's stated policy interests are way way more in line with what will benefit me personally. During the primary I choose to be disaffected and unrepresented. In the general I will vote for anyone against Obama.

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US President Barack Obama and challenger Mitt Romney will face off for the second of three debates on Tuesday, but viewers awaiting the show-down shouldn't expect anything out of the ordinary: both candidates are contractually obliged to be boring.

Tuesday's debate between the two rivals has been advertised as a town hall meeting with members of the audience asking the contenders hard questions on behalf of the average American. In reality, however, not those in attendance nor even the debate’s moderator will be allowed to press the two presidential candidates on the issues of real importance. Everything from how to handle an unplanned remark from the audience to how each candidate will sit — precisely, to even the exact arrangement of their chairs and water glasses — has already been outlined in a document just unearthed by the press.

According to the 21-page agreement signed by both the Obama and Romney campaigns, no member of the audience will be allowed to ask follow-up questions to the candidates during Tuesday’s event. Microphones will be cut off right after questions are asked, and any opportunities for follow-up questions from the crowd will be disregarded and the audience silenced. What's more is even moderator Candy Crowley has been stripped of her right to press the candidates on the questions, effectively diminishing her role to a mere microphone stand as she attempts to guide an audience adamant but unlikely to get answers about the true intentions of the two men battling for the White House.

Both incumbent President Obama and his Republican Party rival had legal representatives for their respective campaigns sign-off on a 21-page agreement that outlines rules of protocol and performance for all three televised debates that will air before next month’s election. Attorneys standing-in for both the current commander-in-chief and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney signed the document, considered a “Memorandum of Understanding,” only moments before the first of three debates occurred on October 3, and on Monday, a reporter with Time magazine leaked the contract to the Web.
The contract, a binding agreement between the Obama for America and the Romney for President campaigns, outlines to a tee not only exactly how the two candidates are legally required to conduct themselves during the debate, but also outlines what is expected of the moderators during the three arguments.

"The candidates may not ask each other direct questions during any of the four debates,” one provision reads, with another insisting, "The candidates shall not address each other with proposed pledges.”
Elsewhere, the campaigns agreed that “At no time” would either candidate “move from his designated area behind the respective podium” during the October 3 debate.

For Tuesday’s event, a town-hall style show-down, it has already been established that following questions lobbed by a handful of pre-selected persons in attendance, "the moderator will not ask follow-up questions or comment on either the questions asked by the audience or the answers of the candidates during the debate.” And although the questions introduced by the crowd are pre-screened by the event’s host, the campaigns have authorized the Commission on Presidential Debates to “take appropriate steps to cut-off the microphone of any…audience member who attempts to pose any question or statement different than that previously posed to the moderator for review."

The document also includes detailed descriptions of seating arrangements, where each candidate’s entourage will be allowed near the stage and, yes, it does confirm that both the president and his opponent will be allowed to use pen and paper of their own liking.

In other words, while things could heat up before Election Day, don’t think that Pres. Obama and Gov. Romney have attempted to find a way to make things less interesting. Neither the presidential candidates nor the men campaigning as their running mates are allowed to ask direct questions to their opponents during any of the debates, and even those members of the audience selected to participate are forbid from following up with any “extended discussion,” which both the president and his Republican Party rival are barred from encouraging.

The Memorandum of Understanding, although informative to a degree, simply only establishes what was already assumed: both Pres. Obama and Gov. Romney’s campaigns are taking every action imaginable to ensure that any roadblocks are less likely to occur during the debates. And for those hoping for a glimpse into what to expect during this week’s performance, here’s a quick spoiler: both chairs utilized by the candidates on Tuesday have had their backs and footrests pre-approved by the campaign. Exciting, huh?

Obama and Romney agree to cowardly debates — RT

 
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Awesome debate, wish I could vote for Obama!

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Awesome debate, wish I could vote for Obama!

I thought you said you were of a libertarian mind set....make up your mind

 
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I know, I hear ya, in this case however, it would seem, the differences between what government will do under each candidate is fairly marginal. At the margin, however, I do prefer Obama's character. He seems more honest, energetic, and passionate. As the case may be, only the parties endorsed by banks and oil companies are allowed to present at the debate, so that leaves the libertarians out of it. Given a strict choice between Obama or Romney, it's Obama, no brainer for me.

Romney's private sector history of gutting American companies and sending them to China makes him the wrong person for what we are going to be faced with in the coming years. He doesn't really doesn't care about the average person, wrong person to be leader in my opinion. He doesn't get it.

Does it really matter though? I'd have to say I would never vote for a leader who wears magic underwear, period. Maybe I'm just biased about that, haha...



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When the dust settles after next week’s third and final debate between US President Barack Obama and challenger Mitt Romney, Americans will be left to choose between just two men to run the country. Unless, of course, they turn to RT.

In response to widespread blackout from both the mainstream media and political establishment alike, RT is honored to be presenting a platform for the major third-party candidates also vying for the White House this election year to debate. The event will be moderated by multi-award winning broadcast journalist Larry King and will be broadcast live from Chicago, Illinois on October 23. RT America and RT.com will offer the event live in cooperation with the debate’s organizers, the Free and Equal Elections Foundation.

Thom Hartmann, the star of RT’s The Big Picture and noted radio host, is one of a few select journalists hand-picked to hit the candidates with questions about their campaign.

Despite having their platforms largely silenced by the elites of a two-party political system, Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson, Green Party candidate Jill Stein, Constitution Party candidate Virgil Goode and Justice Party candidate Rocky Anderson plan to continue their campaign through Election Day. Since their thoughts on issues critical to voters has been muted by the mainstream media, however, their arguments for how they envision America under their own leadership has been left in the dark.

“The previous debates between President Obama and Governor Romney have failed to address the issues that really concern everyday Americans. From foreign policy, to the economy, to taboo subjects like our diminishing civil liberties and the drug war, Americans deserve a real debate, real solutions and real electoral options,” Free & Equal Founder Christina Tobin tells the press.

Larry King, who retired from his role as CNN commentator just last year, says in a press release for the event that being given the opportunity to test the wits of the third-party candidates is “a truly exciting opportunity.”

“I have interviewed every US President since Nixon, and lest people forget, I helped usher Ross Perot into the national conversation during the 1992 presidential contest. I appreciate the importance of providing a platform to those with real alternative visions for our country’s future,” King says.

RT America will begin its pre-debate coverage at 8:00 P.M. Eastern on October 23 with a panel of journalists and commentators including our own Thom Hartmann weighing in on this year’s election. Arguments from the candidates themselves will be underway an hour alter when Mr. King takes overs.

RT presents third-party presidential debate — RT

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Californians, Elizabeth Emken for Senator of California! To unseat the bicentennial long tired ol hag of the West, Diane Feinstein.





I heard her debate "non-existent" stool /w 12 yr.old photo of Feinstein on the John and Ken show on https://kfiam640.iheart.com/pages/jk2010.html She's bright, brunette (did you notice @kbit? ) , energetic and wants to shake things up in the Senate and find out what the heck is going on there to keep the federal budget ballooning to 16 trillion! A true citizen candidate.

Feinstien is at 48% and Emken is at 30% with 21% undecided so there's a chance on Nov. 6th!

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One story about how continuation of the hyper beligerent foreign policy of the US may lead to our undoing. The oil seeking regime change operation that sets the scenario into motion sounds like something either party would be comfortable with.

The Archdruid Report: How It Could Happen, Part One: Hubris

The Archdruid Report: How It Could Happen, Part Two: Nemesis

The Archdruid Report: How It Could Happen, Part Three: To The Brink

More episodes to follow, I can't wait to see the Happy Ending.


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The news of the latest Tanzanian deepwater oil discovery broke on an otherwise sleepy Saturday in March. Thirty years before, a find of the same size might have gotten two column inches somewhere in the back pages of a few newspapers of record, but this was not thirty years ago. In a world starved for oil, what might once have been considered a modest find earned banner headlines.

It certainly loomed large in the East Wing of the White House, where the president and his advisers held a hastily called meeting that evening. “The Chinese already have it wrapped up,” said the Secretary of Energy. “Tanzania’s in their pocket, and there are CNOOC people—” CNOOC was the Chinese National Overseas Oil Corporation, the state-owned firm that spearheaded China’s quest for foreign oil. “—all over the place on site and in Dar es Salaam.”


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re: Peter Schiff on illegals going back to Mexico because of lack of jobs even for them. I thought exactly the same thing at that point in the debate.

A year ago or so, I went to my local 7-11 late night to get a lottery ticket. A couple of guys who obviously were mexican hispanics with run down bikes next to them were sitting on the cement waist-border of the building. (used to see hispanics riding bikes all over my city. Even a bunch of them hanging out at the carwash where they worked. Now they're all gone.) They only talked in Spanish. But I could understand enough from 4 years of high school Spanish to hear one guy say to the other: "Ive been here for two years and can't find a job".

Inflation on the dollar feels like 2-3% a year. And fast food prices seemed to have gone up like 60% in only 7 years.

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South Park Bailout Episode - "And...It'sGone!" - Home - The Daily Bail

Had to post this vid...cause it says so much!!!!!

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The final debate is on Monday 9pm ET and is on the subject of Foreign Policy. I wonder how many times China and Iran will be named...

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South Park Bailout Episode - "And...It'sGone!" - Home - The Daily Bail

Had to post this vid...cause it says so much!!!!!

LOL, good stuff. Too bad it is all to real to a large portion of middle class American's over the last 10 years or so.

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Thanks to @kbit on the link to Max Keiser recently on Alex Jones/Infowars:

About 10 minutes in, Max Keiser on both Romney and Obama.


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Stephanie Cutter #10 on top 10 "trending" on yahoo.com today @kbit , just four behind Fidel Castro ((near death?) fink is still in the news and outlasted JFK and all his brothers, and Nixon; also 50 years to the day JFK announced Cuba had nukes tomorrow)

Stephanie Cutter: Binders, Big Bird are important - CBS News Video ("discussion" between Ms. Cutter and Romney senior adviser Kevin Madden with "moderator" Bob Scheiffer: "Face the Nation")

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Obama's Stephanie Cutter knocks Lehrer - POLITICO.com


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...Big 2013 Tax increase for 163 million workers

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama isn't talking about it and neither is Mitt Romney. But come January, 163 million workers can expect to feel the pinch of a big tax increase regardless of who wins the election.

A temporary reduction in Social Security payroll taxes is due to expire at the end of the year and hardly anyone in Washington is pushing to extend it. Neither Obama nor Romney has proposed an extension, and it probably wouldn't get through Congress anyway, with lawmakers in both parties down on the idea.

Even Republicans who have sworn off tax increases have little appetite to prevent one that will cost a typical worker about $1,000 a year, and two-earner family with six-figure incomes as much as $4,500.

Why are so many politicians sour on continuing the payroll tax break?

Republicans question whether reducing the tax two years ago has done much to stimulate the sluggish economy. Politicians from both parties say they are concerned that it threatens the independent revenue stream that funds Social Security.

They are backed by powerful advocates for seniors, including AARP, who adamantly oppose any extension.

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Who do you think came out ahead in the First Lady Debate last night between Ann Romney and Michele Obama? Do you think this debate will have an impact on undecided voters?

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Who do you think came out ahead in the First Lady Debate last night between Ann Romney and Michele Obama? Do you think this debate will have an impact on undecided voters?

You got me...

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The third and final Presidential Debate of 2012:



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caption to picture above - The third and final Presidential Debate of 2012 (on foreign policy):

You say PACK-a-stan but I say POCK-ee-ston...


(only real difference on foreign policy)

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"I know several people who voted for Obama in 2008, but never again. Does anyone know a McCain voter who will vote for Obama in 2012? There are none."

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Still anxiously awaiting your feelings bout whether Ann Romney or Michele Obama came out ahead in the First Lady Debate a few nights ago.

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Third Party Debates:



Actual debate coverage starts 1h 10m into video I believe, have not watched it yet so let me know.

Ironic that RussiaToday is streaming this, and all the major American networks refused to touch it...

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Apparently we should move to Iceland if you want your government to actually, truly represent you and be your voice:

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Still anxiously awaiting your feelings bout whether Ann Romney or Michele Obama came out ahead in the First Lady Debate a few nights ago.

Is there a link to a recording of the first lady debate? From what I've seen of both: Ann Romney had to be convinced by Mitt to run again this last time. Michele Obama is just scary imo. just my feeling that she wants to be back in the white house another four years more than President Obama does.


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Actual debate coverage starts 1h 10m into video I believe, have not watched it yet so let me know.

Ironic that RussiaToday is streaming this, and all the major American networks refused to touch it...

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Thanks. I saw the RT ad that they were going to do the 3rd party debates, but then got caught up with things. Will definitely watch before the election. I agree it's interesting to see RT is so willing to dig in the "truth" about American politics and economics with so many great shows and topics and disturbing they are aware of so much about the internal issues more than most of the brainwashed masses are. Maybe it helps their long term planning to indirectly promote dissent and division in the U.S. Russia is still pretty much a failed democracy with Putin seemingly re-electing for life.

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RussiaToday (RT) would be much more successful news organization if they would rename themselves. Perhaps to DemocracyToday or etc, then people wouldn't be turned off by the name before they got to know the organization.

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RussiaToday (RT) would be much more successful news organization if they would rename themselves. Perhaps to DemocracyToday or etc, then people wouldn't be turned off by the name before they got to know the organization.

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I would agree Big Mike, good idea. And I think it would be even better if the RT-America division was bought off and funded by some American sponsored libertarian or independently minded movement with wealth to do so. But hard to imagine that could ever happen today. Ugh, just realized RT is totally Russian state sponsored with no commercials except for their own programming. Well maybe someone at PBS could wise up and make it more like RT-America, but hard to imagine with no commercial incentive and no state or public mandate to do so, and there's more worries about Big Bird at PBS in the spotlight.

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Global Poll: Obama Overwhelmingly Preferred to Romney - World Public Opinion


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A new 21-nation poll for BBC World Service indicates that citizens around the world would strongly prefer to see Barack Obama re-elected as US President rather than his Republican challenger Mitt Romney.

The poll of 21,797 people, conducted by GlobeScan/PIPA between July 3 and September 3, 2012, indicates that Obama is preferred to Romney in 20 of the 21 countries polled. Overall, an average of 50 per cent would prefer to see Obama elected, compared to only 9 per cent who prefer Romney. The rest express no preference between the two.

Of all the countries polled, France is currently the most strongly pro-Obama, with 72 per cent wanting him to be re-elected and just 2 per cent preferring Romney. Australia (67%), Canada (66%), Nigeria (66%), and the UK (65%) are among the other countries with large majorities favouring Obama.

Pakistan, where 14 per cent want to see Romney elected compared to 11 per cent who prefer Obama, is the only country where the current President is not the favoured candidate--but here, three-quarters (75%) express no opinion. The countries with the largest proportions favouring Mitt Romney are Kenya (18%) and Poland (16%).

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New poll on forum homepage, vote there and discuss here.

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I bet my right pinky toe on this one, as confident about this as NT 8. Although if I lose my right pinky toe on one bet, then can I still lose the second bet? Hmmm.

 
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I bet my right pinky toe on this one, as confident about this as NT 8. Although if I lose my right pinky toe on one bet, then can I still lose the second bet? Hmmm.

I am assuming you selected Romney, as just about everyone on futures.io (formerly BMT) leans that way.

This seems like it could quite literally be "The Perfect Storm" against Obama. If the storm is as bad as what I am reading, then it will likely still be an annoyance in everyone's day-to-day lives come election day, and that means these states may see a dramatic decrease in turn out. I wonder if such a decrease would sway them to Romney's favor.



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Rather Romney did, but it's not my country. Not sure I'm ready, or the US is ready, for the US to make its own Great Leap Forward.

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I am assuming you selected Romney, as just about everyone on futures.io (formerly BMT) leans that way.

This seems like it could quite literally be "The Perfect Storm" against Obama. If the storm is as bad as what I am reading, then it will likely still be an annoyance in everyone's day-to-day lives come election day, and that means these states may see a dramatic decrease in turn out. I wonder if such a decrease would sway them to Romney's favor.



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I think it hurts Romney because while he clearly has the momo and the numbers now, early voting went to Obama. Overall, voting prior to the momo shift was about 3% of total, which may not seem significant, but in a close race could be very significant.

 
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WASHINGTON – Using a Pakistani Internet Protocol, or IP address, a disposable credit card and a fake address, “Osama bin Laden” has successfully donated twice to Barack Obama’s presidential re-election campaign.

The “Bin Laden” donations, actually made by WND staff, included a listed occupation of “deceased terror chief” and a stated employer of “al-Qaida.”

“Bin Laden” is currently set up on the official campaign website to contribute more to Obama’s campaign. The name is also registered as a volunteer.

Since the “foreign” contribution was sent, “Bin Laden’s” email address has received several solicitations from Obama’s campaign asking for more donations.

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The apparently foreign-based contributions were conducted as a test after a flurry of media reports described the ability of foreigners to donate to the Obama campaign but not to Mitt Romney’s site, which has placed safeguards against such efforts.

The acceptance of foreign contributions is strictly illegal under U.S. campaign finance law.

One $15 donation was made at BarackObama.com using a confirmed Pakistani IP address. In other words, as far as the campaign website was concerned, the donation was openly identified electronically as coming from Pakistan.

Upon clicking the “donate” button, WND staff selected the $15 amount and were taken to a page on the campaign website asking for a first and last name, city, state, zip code, email address and phone number.

The information submitted was: “Osama bin Laden, 911 Jihad Way, Abbottabad, CA 91101.”

While the website only has options for U.S. states and zip codes, there is no mechanism in place on Obama’s website to verify the individual is actually located in that state or zip code, or even in the U.S.

The Obama campaign refuses to release the identification of donors who give less than $200

In the case of this donation, the 91101 zip code is real but corresponds to Pasadena, Calif., and not Abbottabad, the Pakistani city in which bin Laden was found holed up in a compound.

For a requested phone number, WND inputted the White House information line of (202) 456-2121.

The email address used to set up the donation account was osama4obama2012@gmail.com.

After clicking “next,” the website asked for an employer, occupation and a password to set up future donations. WND staff entered the occupation as “deceased terror chief” and the employer as “al-Qaida.”

The transaction was made last Friday with the use of a disposable credit card. The website did not require the card’s security code.


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And frankly I am disgusted with both of them so I voting Libertarian, Gary Johnson.

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Not that this will affect the outcome of the election, but...

UAW Files Charges Against Romney on His Auto Bail-out Profiteering | NationofChange


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In 2009, Ann Romney partnered with her husband's key donor, billionaire Paul Singer, who secretly bought a controlling interest in Delphi Auto, the former GM auto parts division. Singer's hedge fund, Elliott Management, threatened to cut off GM's supply of steering columns unless GM and the government's TARP auto bail-out fund provided Delphi with huge payments. While the US treasury complained this was "extortion," the hedge funds received, ultimately, $12.9 billion in taxpayer subsidies.

As a result, the shares Singer and Romney bought for just 67 cents are today worth over $30, a 4,000% gain. Singer's hedge fund made a profit of $1.27 billion and the Romneys' tens of millions.

The UAW complaint calls for Romney to reveal exactly how much he made off Delphi -- and continues to make. The Singer syndicate, once in control of Delphi, eliminated every single UAW job --25,000-- and moved almost all auto parts production to Mexico and China where Delphi now employs 25,000 auto parts workers.


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Damn Zondor. Good find.

I find myself leaning left here. I am getting a f*ckton of double standards from romney.

As far as the economy, we are competing with slaves in asia for labor. Kinda obvious who wins that battle in regards to unbiased economic facts and not union or sympathy jobs.

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During a beer at the local tavern I got into a discussion with some friends and one of them had this thought - that philosophically, the differences in the 2 political sides can be summed-up in Katrina and Sandy.

If one side sees government as too involved and the source of the problem, it is more likely to staff agencies it views that way with incompetents. This produces a self-fulfilling prophesy that then bolsters their argument that government does the task poorly.

If, on the other hand, one views federal government involvement as necessary in something like disaster recovery (somewhat like the military), then they are more likely to staff it with at least competent people which they hope will produce competent results.

Now, everyone knows that elections can add to this mix, but the basic premise is that if I don't like a department or agency, I can screw it over in people or funding and then point to the mess as a justification for dismantling it.

Gov Christie has come down on the side of federal involvement in disaster recovery. I suppose being governor requires a pragmatic side that overrules politics.

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Congratulations to President Obama on getting reelected and Senate majority. Too bad no House majority.

A small bit of faith has been restored in my eyes, for not electing Romney.

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Glad Romney wasn't elected either even though I wasn't for Obama this time around. In California, Proposition 30 for increased "temporary" taxes for "education" was voted in. Proposition 37, which would have mandated GMO labeling was voted down. Proposition 32 to stop union driven political contributions by payroll deduction of public sector workers shot down. Emken lost to Feinstein. Outcomes of other propositions will result in increased debt in the worst way possible. Fiscal oversight in favor of public sector union and crony corporate special interests completely abdicated in the state. A disaster. And here comes Obamacare!

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A small bit of faith has been restored in my eyes, for not electing Romney.

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Wow and I had you almost for sure pegged as Romney supporter being from Texas and all.

I may just vote with my feet since I am both a Canadian/US citizen if this country continues to decline. Canada is far from perfect, but the US is becoming more 2nd world everyday. I like Stephen Harper he seems much better than the nut jobs from the Dem and esp Repub side.

 
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Ron Paul will be on Bloomberg tomorrow to discuss the outcome.

That will be worth watching.

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That will be worth watching.

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Mike I heard there was a couple who bought Obama shares on Intrade when he was first elected for 8 cents that he would be re-elected just became millionaires.

 
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And with that, I am going to close this thread. I think we'll avoid such threads in the future.

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Last Updated on November 7, 2012


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