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...a nuclear-powered, MINI-Cooper-sized super rover will land on Mars. We accurately guided this monster from 200 million miles away (that’s 7.6 million marathons).
It requires better accuracy than an Olympic golfer teeing off in London and hitting a hole-in-one in Auckland, New Zealand. It will use a laser to blast rocks, a chemical nose to sniff out the potential for life, and hundreds of other feats of near-magic. Will these discoveries lead us down a path to confirming life on other planets?
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NASA’s coverage of the event is scheduled to begin at 11:30 p.m. Sunday night and go until 4 a.m. Monday morning. The landing itself is scheduled for 1:31 a.m. Monday (EDT)
I agree, it's the ultimate in exploration and science experiments... we are privaledged to see achievements like this, live video from 200 million miles away...searching for life etc. what a time to be alive..
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And if/when they find proof of life on Mars, I think it has the potential to be a milestone in society, just like the "space race" of the 50's and 60's was for my parents generation. It energized the nation. Watch old TV footage and see how it brought everyone together.
I hope the same will be true of this. But in today's 24h news cycle, this will get a few minutes, and then back to who showed up drunk to American Idol and who forgot to wear a bra when they went outside.
We always talk about this crap, how terrible the mainstream news is with this kind of crap and people are consumed with this tabloid junk instead of spending time learning about real news that is actually important.
Exciting stuff mike, fingers crossed from the UK regards a safe landing
Not seen any news on this in the UK, thanks for sharing
Keep us posted!!!
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I have to agree, it is horrible that we have come to a point in society that something of this level of human enginuity does not spark the interest needed to even support 8000 people in bandwidth. I find myself on a daily basis becoming more jaded by what we have come as a nation. I feel like everything is always building up to a total collapse. I dont want to get into a large rant here but I am sickened by the current disolutionment of humanity in general.
FAST FACTS
Mission name: Mars Science Laboratory
Rover name: Curiosity rover
Size: About the size of a car -- 10 feet long (not including the arm), 9 feet wide and 7 feet tall!
Weight: 900 kilograms (2,000 pounds)
Features: Geology lab, rocker-bogie suspension, rock-vaporizing laser and lots of cameras
Mission: To search areas of Mars for past or present conditions favorable for life, and conditions capable of preserving a record of life
Launch: Between Nov. 25–Dec. 18, 2011, from Cape Canaveral, Florida
Arrival: August 2012 at Mars
Length of mission on Mars: The prime mission will last one Mars year or about 23 Earth months.
Amazing. Congrats to this great feat of American technology and engineering. This looks serious. A nuclear powerpack and a million watt laser to analyze samples. Hope it lasts and hope there are people involved willing to reveal the truths about Mars.
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Yeah, and Bob Costas just signed a multi-year deal and will be hosting NASA missions instead of the Olympics. Apparently, they clinched the deal by allowing him to have his body frozen and sent into space when he dies.
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Checking out the Rover Deck in Full Resolution
This full-resolution self-portrait shows the deck of NASA's Curiosity rover from the rover's Navigation cameras. The back of the rover can be seen at the top left of the image, and two of the rover's right side wheels can be seen on the left. Part of the pointy rim of Gale Crater forms the lighter color strip in the background. Bits of gravel, about 0.4 inches (1 centimeter) in size, are visible on the deck of the rover.
This mosaic is made of eight images, each of 1,024 by 1,024 pixels, taken late at night on Aug. 7 PDT (early morning Aug. 8 EDT). It uses an average of the Navcam positions to synthesize the point of view of a single camera, with a field of view of 120 degrees. Seams between the images have been minimized, but a few are still visible. The wide field of view introduces some distortion at the edges of the mosaic.
The "augmented reality" or AR tag seen in the middle of the image can be used in the future with smart phones to obtain more information about the mission.
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This is news, science and discovery that actually matters. Unlike who won American Idol, or who went into rehab, or if Tiger Woods cheated on his wife, etc...
So I am just trying to give it the attention it deserves.
Dude you got some serious vendetta again American Idol..............!!!!
This is my bestest program on T.V
emmmmmmmmmmmmmmm NOT!
Don’t blame you, these stupid programs drive me made in the UK
Thank god i don’t watch a lot of T.V, i might get brain washed like the rest of the population
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Mike is absolutely right, this is an historic moment in space exploration for all of mankind...most people don't appreciate it, or the effort and knowledge it took to accomplish...it will be the foundation for man living on Mars in the future ....
The information gathered from the instruments on-board, over the next months-years, will be priceless..
"An interactive 360 degree panorama from Mars, created from the first high-res, color photos beamed back to Earth from the Curiosity Rover, allows you to rotate and zoom a virtual camera mounted smack dab in the center of the Curiosity rover.
Wow. After spending most of my formative years in awe of pretty much everything very rare these days something happens that renews my faith in humankind (or at least in its engineers). Sorry Apple (& FaceBook I suppose), but connectivity & social networking among the 20- something denizens of this planet never really did it for me like Mars does. Haven't actually read past any of the headlines but feeling so exuberant even prepared to believe Mr. Obama's request to be notified about life on Mars was in jest.
This composite image, with magnified insets, depicts the first laser test by the Chemistry and Camera, or ChemCam, instrument aboard NASA's Curiosity Mars rover. The composite incorporates a Navigation Camera image taken prior to the test, with insets taken by the camera in ChemCam. The circular insert highlights the rock before the laser test. The square inset is further magnified and processed to show the difference between images taken before and after the laser interrogation of the rock.
The test took place on Aug. 19, 2012.
In the composite, the fist-sized rock, called "Coronation," is highlighted. Coronation is the first rock on any extraterrestrial planet to be investigated with such a laser test.
The widest context view in this composite comes from Curiosity's Navigation Camera. The magnified views in the insets come from ChemCam's camera, the Remote Micro-Imager. The area shown in the circular inset is 6 centimeters (2.4 inches) in diameter. It was taken before the rock was hit with the laser. The area covered in the further-magnified square inset is 8 millimeters (about one-third of an inch) across. It combines information from images taken before and after the test, subtracting the "before" image from the "after" image to make the changes in the rock visible.
Curiosity's Chemistry and Camera instrument (ChemCam) inaugurated use of its laser when it used the beam to investigate Coronation during Curiosity's 13th day after landing.
ChemCam hit Coronation with 30 pulses of its laser during a 10-second period. Each pulse delivered more than a million watts of power for about five one-billionths of a second. The energy from the laser excited atoms in the rock into an ionized, glowing plasma. ChemCam also caught the light from that spark with a telescope and analyzed it with three spectrometers for information about what elements are in the target.
This initial use of the laser on Mars served as target practice for characterizing the instrument but may provide additional value. Researchers will check whether the composition changed as the pulses progressed. If it did change, that could indicate dust or other surface material being penetrated to reveal different composition beneath the surface.
ChemCam was developed, built and tested by the U.S. Department of Energy's Los Alamos National Laboratory in partnership with scientists and engineers funded by France's national space agency, Centre National d'Etudes Spatiales (CNES) and research agency, Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique (CNRS).
NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, manages the Mars Science Laboratory Project, including Curiosity, for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. JPL designed and built the rover.
This set of images shows the movement of the rear right wheel of NASA's Curiosity as rover drivers turned the wheels in place at the landing site on Mars. Engineers wiggled the wheels as a test of the rover's steering and anticipate embarking on Curiosity's first drive in the next couple of days. This image was taken by one of Curiosity's Navigation cameras on Aug. 21.
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Layers at the Base of Mount Sharp
A chapter of the layered geological history of Mars is laid bare in this postcard from NASA's Curiosity rover. The image shows the base of Mount Sharp, the rover's eventual science destination.
This image is a portion of a larger image taken by Curiosity's 100-millimeter Mast Camera on Aug. 23, 2012. See PIA16104. Scientists enhanced the color in one version to show the Martian scene under the lighting conditions we have on Earth, which helps in analyzing the terrain.
For scale, an annotated version of the figure highlights a dark rock that is approximately the same size as Curiosity. The pointy mound in the center of the image, looming above the rover-sized rock, is about 1,000 feet (300 meters) across and 300 feet (100 meters) high.
I wonder if we'll actually be able to explore in space like our science fiction pretends. As in our science fiction is our concept of what we are and what our science is. When we look at past future extrapolations they are nothing like the present.
So the question becomes, are we tied to the Earth by an inseperable, uncuttable, umbilical cord, in a TOTALLY symbiotic relationship, or can we actually populate other worlds? Of course we'd have to find a habitable world first for that to happen and for the question to have meaning. How long are we capable of living within the confines of a spacecraft? A completely human fabricated environment. It is an illusion, IMO, we are no more capable of living and surviving in a human fabricated environment than are the animals at the zoo.
All this isn't to say I don't find the Mars exploration of incredible interest and can't help but be in awe of the explorations ahead for humanity in this solar system. I download all the pictures to my computer. Just musing. Personally I believe Man is missing WAY too much. He has pissed on and destroyed and erased thousands of years of cultural knowledge from all over the world about what dwells on this planet. And now in a final gasp is throwing all his marbles into technology. He won't make it.
Sorry, felt I needed to add something. I'm not meaning to suggest that it is this one thing I am referring to when I speak of one last gasp. Not at all. I mean everything. That technological push that started in the last century. I wasn't trying to condemn anything. If some one thought so. I apologize. I am reflecting that while our technology apparently is coming of age for many things, it also appears to be out of control elsewhere.
(Of course symbiotic would mean that the Earth gets some benefit from us being here as well. We get survival, and the Earth gets..?)
Great points in light of a science-fiction view. I would very much hope mankind would be allowed to explore expand and live first throughout the solar system, then one day the stars through wormhole or blackhole technology. A first step could be terraforming Mars. i.e. "Green Mars". Star Trek has made it too easy looking with "type 2 civilization" almost magical technology and a utopian , economically trouble free society. Finding diamonds on Europa "2063: Odyssey 2" or gold elsewhere and developments of free or alternate energy and nanotechnology could help solve the world's financial problems and have mankind looking beyond petty hoarding of resources and power to acquire resources ("money").
Unfortunately, it may be mankind is limited by design to Earth. We have the limitation of the speed of light (which the HFT highwaymen are literally taking advantage of by parking their servers physically closer to the exchanges haha). The solar system is a strange , seemingly by design system of a singular instead of the more common binary star system, with a big convenient mass catcher, Jupiter ( which failed to implode itself into a second star), which absorbed cometary fragments (1997?)that could have blown up the Earth several times over. And then the strange singular satellite i.e. the Moon. Conditions may be only right for human life on Earth in the universe. And any other life found elsewhere could just be microbial life spread out from Earth's atmosphere by passing asteroids and meteors and comets. (or purposely placed elsewhere for deception purposes.) In the movie "Red Planet" , the Terrance Stamp("Zod" in Superman II) character on pondering the mysteries of the universe said he later turned to faith for answers after a life in science. (Why IS Mars such a dead planet? Why didn't water and air from on it like Earth? or maybe it "used" to have oceans and "canals". ) Closest to Earth in it's orbital distance from the sun, smaller but similar class in mass and gravity, albeit with a wierder orbit and a wierd asteroid-moon of Phobos (http://enterprisemission.com/) and a bunch of asteroids nearby looking like a Death Star blasted apart a planet long long ago..)
Like that photo of the erosion on Mars is just awesome, wondrous and goosebumb inducing, but scary in a ways. It could be seen conceptually as former civilizations turned to salt, dust and ashes like God's wrath on Sodom and Gomorrah. In "Rama Revealed", the last in the series of the original classic "Rendevouz with Rama" it was revealed to the protagonist the giant Rama craft were all powerful tools of God literally to collate data to recreate the universe into a better one.
Extraterrestial life? UFO's? Strange magical lights defying the laws of physics or using some "other dimensional" physics? Could be these "beings of light" are what they claimed to be to abductees and/or "channelers", from the other star systems of the Pleiades or some such nonsense we see and hear about on those late night tv and radio shows. ("Coast to Coast AM", "History Channel: Ancient Aliens series") Or they could be the first beings that were made before mankind. Beings of unimaginable power both in the spirit and physical realms. But a third of the host rebelled and are now continuing the process of deceiving mankind in the last days on physical Earth. It may be very soon, the Antichrist will reveal himself, magically solve the world's problems, and force everyone to take the marks (facebook chips) and worship him only.
Anyways, to sum up my rambling, it would be awesome to see what's really out there, Mars or beyond. Hopefully with permission and a chance for mankind to redeem itself and acquire more resources, and not in a deceived way to doom more souls.
I believe in UFOs. Never seen one. Not even a hint myself actually. But I believe just the same. People believe in God. And they've never seen Him/Her/That either. I believe the most compelling evidence in the public domain was put together by Martyn Stubbs. Vancouver public television director. Deceased.
I remember seeing his interview. Based on his tv editing experience he examined moving NASA footage of CCD cameras at 30 frames/sec., many of them orbital missions and found many anomalies appearing in only a few frames which would be missed by regular human eyesight too slow to see it. He's gone already? Sorry to hear that. Too bad, and too young.
The youtube video of the Martyn Stubbs interview has been removed now:
He claimed to have identified two anomolies. One are the really brief lights you mention. But the other are the more obvious round disks viewed in great number and specifically highlighted during the tether incident. I dont recall the mission right now. But NASA was deploying some kind of electrical experiment with a very long (hundreds of feet) tether of some sort which broke from the shuttle the minute it was deployed. Afterwards dozens, and I mean dozens of objects can be seem swarming the tether. This is bizarre, but what is also bizarre is the fact that this coiled tether was maintained perfectly straight after it broke. That! woild seem to me to be an impossibility.
Yes, the link you posted still works. I just meant the link I found over a month ago is interestingly gone now.
I'm a believer too, but I hope to never see one up close personally because I also believe they are a deception.
I think it's better I don't go into it on this Mars related thread. Only the Curiosity rover streaming video is on topic. But if you see the recent videos posted in Gabriyele's "Unidentified" thread here , you'll see what I mean.
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Was reminded tonight the only thing I love more than space science (and now space technology & engineering after the last Mars landing) and the hope of inhabiting other planets and eventually other galaxies, is particle physics. Tonight my son was instructing me on the fine art of wine tasting home made wine (more of a wine guzzler myself) when he mentioned how he monitors the vacuum on a carboy during degassing. Specifically he mentioned "mm/mg" which reminded me of decades spent not having the guts to buy a purpose built vacuum pump & gauge I needed to build my first accelerator (a cyclotron), a passion of mine since I was 5 years old and my dad taught me how to use a HAM radio (for the excitation potential, I imagined). I've probably read every Scientific American Amateur Scientist experiment with low atmosphere physics ever written since then. The Cern colllider is on my bucket list, along with a decent telescope, and living under a decent sky. And getting an email from one of the moons of Jupiter.
