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How many on futures.io (formerly BMT) routinely cycle, bike or run?

As I continue to get my diet in order, the next step is more exercise, so I am exploring my options. I have a lot to learn in this area so would like to hear from everyone.

Being a tech guy, I think some of the gadgets are quite cool and can definitely help with motivation. So if you have one of these gadgets, please share that info as well.

If you bike, cycle or run, would you please let us know where you live, and whether the streets are flat or hilly, and what the temperatures are like?

Do you take your dogs?

How often do you do it?

How does it make you feel before, and after?

If you are unable to do the exercise one or two days, do you yearn for it?

Please chime in.

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I run 2-3 marathon's per year, so I'm in constant 'training' mode. I increase the distance of my weekend runs on a regular schedule to try and 'peak' close to race day. During the week I run 2-3 days focusing on increasing my fitness and speed.

I am by no means at any elite level, but the mental challenge of running long distances is where I get the most enjoyment. Pushing through the pain of the last 5 miles of a marathon is where everything comes together. Besides, it gives me an excuse to travel to some beautiful countries. I've run through the streets of some of the most spectacular cities in the world, London, Berlin and Stockholm when I was in England. Miami, San Francisco, Vancouver and Seattle since we moved to Canada.

Besides, I've got to do something to make up for sitting in front of a computer 8-12 hours a day.

I live in the western prairies, so finding good hills to run is a bit of a challenge. I have to run up and down the same hill by my house for my hill training. The temperature in Canada can be a challenge. It swings from bitter cold winters to scorching summers. Before every run I have to decide how many layers, what shoes to wear and some days, do I just want to hit the treadmill!

I use a Garmin GPS watch to track my pace, distance and heart rate. They are awesome devices that have gotten much smaller over the past couple years. I download and track every run on their website. I can share my stats with running buddies for bragging rights or motivation.

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I would encourage participation in martial arts. The metaphor that activity provides as it relates to other things is amazing....especially if you can find a good jujitsu school.

Mike there is a great one in your local area. Carlos Machado is totally legit and he has four schools in your area. Rather than blather on about what works for me and how, I'll be happy to expand if anyone cares. DB

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I would encourage participation in martial arts.

That reminds me. @Gary, whatever happened to you getting your black belt?

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How many on futures.io (formerly BMT) routinely cycle, bike or run?

As I continue to get my diet in order, the next step is more exercise, so I am exploring my options. I have a lot to learn in this area so would like to hear from everyone.

Being a tech guy, I think some of the gadgets are quite cool and can definitely help with motivation. So if you have one of these gadgets, please share that info as well.

If you bike, cycle or run, would you please let us know where you live, and whether the streets are flat or hilly, and what the temperatures are like?

Do you take your dogs?

How often do you do it?

How does it make you feel before, and after?

If you are unable to do the exercise one or two days, do you yearn for it?

Please chime in.

Mike

I run 3 times a week, about 10 km a run. Used to do the half marathon about 9 times, but have given it up. Have been running like this for the past 25 years. Keeps you mentally and physically fit. I also train once a week in martial arts - Krav Magen - have a 5 Dan black belt. I am a qualified instructor. Have be doing this for past 30 years twice or three times a week.
When you miss a run, it is like cutting your legs off - the adrenalin seems to wait for the run.

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I run at least 3 - 4 times a week where I take my dog with me. I don't look to run long distance but look to run through the multiple canyons we have here. I prefer to run on fire roads with steep hills so I can try to sprint up them. Ironically, I just got attacked by a hive of bees recently but thankfully only got stung once out of all of that. This was the 3rd time in a few weeks that I ran into a big hive of Bees. It's getting old, lol!

I also do a lot of other outdoor stuff like surfing, soccer, etc. I used to train Jiu-Jitsu which I definitely want to get back into but also plan to start taking Muay Thai.

I think by staying in shape, it strengthens your self-worth and confidence in everything you're doing. Which of course is huge in trading.

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Something to consider, regardless of your exercise routine you want to be sure to include a proper stretching routine. I typically exercise 4 days a week with a day off in between and whenever I take more than a day off I can feel the effects of not stretching much more than not exercising.

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Hi Mike,

Since january this year i started the Spartacus workout. I am a big fan of the series and wanted to regain my younger look when i was 20. I am now just over 50 and feel in a much better shape. My spouse says i have the same look as Andy Whitfield. I'm sure she's exaggerating.

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Hi Mike,

Since january this year i started the Spartacus workout. I am a big fan of the series and wanted to regain my younger look when i was 20. I am now just over 50 and feel in a much better shape. My spouse says i have the same look as Andy Whitfield. I'm sure she's exaggerating.

Had not heard of it. Here is a video.



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Inversion table for my back 3 x week



Elliptical for burning calories 3 x week



Outside with my Dogs 1 or 2 times day


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Inversion table for my back 3 x week


Interesting, what does this do for your back? Just stretching it seems?

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Interesting, what does this do for your back? Just stretching it seems?

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Much more like decompressing the spine you can google and find plenty of material like that:





I am quite tall and always had problems with my back (many hours sitting on a chair with a bad posture). Since I 've been using the table no more problems it's really beneficial

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Thanks. I am googling. I've always had low back pain that refuses to go away, I have a herniated disc and some nerve pressure that makes me "aware" of the pain 24/7, it is always there, a dull sensation 24/7. Some times of day or certain days it is much worse than others.

Back when I had insurance, before I started trading full time and opted to not pay ridiculous amounts of money for insurance, I was getting routine injections and had a couple Lumbar Radiofrequency Rhizotomy (RFR) procedures, all of which only provided temporary relief.

It has been a few years now that I've been without insurance, and without these treatments.

So, thanks - I am looking into this

And also, a product called Nubax looks quite interesting.



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That reminds me. @ Gary, whatever happened to you getting your black belt?

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I only did Jui Jitsu a few times, and it happened to be with Carlos Machado in Farmer's Branch many years ago.

Hapkido is/was my thing; unfortunately, after moving, I stopped attending the class I had been going to for a few years due to the drive time.

I'll get back to it, eventually.

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Thanks. I am googling. I've always had low back pain that refuses to go away, I have a herniated disc and some nerve pressure that makes me "aware" of the pain 24/7, it is always there, a dull sensation 24/7. Some times of day or certain days it is much worse than others.

Back when I had insurance, before I started trading full time and opted to not pay ridiculous amounts of money for insurance, I was getting routine injections and had a couple Lumbar Radiofrequency Rhizotomy (RFR) procedures, all of which only provided temporary relief.

It has been a few years now that I've been without insurance, and without these treatments.

So, thanks - I am looking into this

And also, a product called Nubax looks quite interesting.



Mike


Same problem here, spent many hours with a physiotherapist (too expensive and too much time for each session). The Table will not solve your herniatic disc but it will release pain. The good thing it is not expensive (any brand will do the work just check the weight compliance according to your own weight, some cheap tables are built with cheap material and you want to make sure it is enough resistant), and you can use it whenever you need it.

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BM,

My mom suffers from joint pain in her back, knee and hip. She started doing Tai Chi and her pain completely disappeared. Tai Chi also offers many other health benefits as well.

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30 mile round trip from N Tabor area of NE Portland OR to Troutdale via I-205 bike path and Marine Drive 2 to 5 times per week at average speed of about 17 mph with cruising speed on Marine Drive generally between 19 and 24 mph depending on wind. Strong Columbia River Gorge headwinds can lower cruising speed to 14 mph and make it feel like one long hill climb. Will increase distance on weekends to as long as 70 miles with warmer weather. Long slow distance is out and intervals and close to LT workouts are IN. You do know what LT means, DON'T YOU?

Impedance scale says body fat is now 18.5% so I will need to increase the intensity and stay on the calorie restriction to get it down to around 12%. Getting there... I have a 200 mile ride coming up in July.

Next month I might put the PowerTap hub back in service so I can start monitoring real time power output and recording power vs time curves once again.

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intervals and close to LT workouts are IN. You do know what LT means, DON'T YOU?

Lactate Threshold Training - LT - Anaerobic Threshold

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I live in CA. The weather is incredibly nice for any outdoor activity almost all year. I lift weights about 4-5 times a week all year. In the summer i swim, bike, skateboard... thats right skateboard at 31yrs old lol... In the winter I snowboard and hike the Sierra Nevada's. If i can I'll usually try and do a tough mudder once a year.

I don't think any one gadget will help keep you motivated. The activity itself or physical results should be your underlying motivation. You may buy "the new super fantastic 5lb mountain bike" with all the latest hydraulic disc brake suspension technology, just to find that you don't really like biking. Or even just a pair of expensive Nike's thinking you'll run more. I've been fortunate to have income from being in shape as my motivation. That's not to say i would stop doing any of my out door activities, I do them because i love to.
And above that,
My underlying motivation is to push myself to fail... to success... to test my mind and body to make them better than they were the day before.




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How many on futures.io (formerly BMT) routinely cycle, bike or run?

As I continue to get my diet in order, the next step is more exercise, so I am exploring my options. I have a lot to learn in this area so would like to hear from everyone.

Being a tech guy, I think some of the gadgets are quite cool and can definitely help with motivation. So if you have one of these gadgets, please share that info as well.

If you bike, cycle or run, would you please let us know where you live, and whether the streets are flat or hilly, and what the temperatures are like?

Do you take your dogs?

How often do you do it?

How does it make you feel before, and after?

If you are unable to do the exercise one or two days, do you yearn for it?

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. I've always had low back pain that refuses to go away, I have a herniated disc and some nerve pressure that makes me "aware" of the pain 24/7, it is always there, a dull sensation 24/7. Some times of day or certain days it is much worse than others.
And also, a product called Nubax looks quite interesting.
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Mike, fwiw, I once had a chronic herniated disc condition similar to yours. (About to have surgery before I learned of a chiropractor that made all the difference. I've seen many, he's been the best, is in Tenn. if you're ever want a reference, was 12 yr ago, now even minor back pain is rare.) Anyway, on to the point re the inversion table you're interested in.... Before shelling out the cash, here's a quick and dirty thing you might first try to see if it holds promise. Helped me at the time.

After hearing of the inversion table, I went to a local gym, had someone help me hook my knees around a monkey bar (what would normally be used for chin-ups), i.e., am now hanging upside down by my knees. That in itself would help. But to accentuate the stretching out of the spine, I'd then pick up a couple of small weights off the floor. No matter how briefly I could hold that the relief was immediate.

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How many on futures.io (formerly BMT) routinely cycle, bike or run?

As I continue to get my diet in order, the next step is more exercise

I'm looking forward to reading and following this thread.

I've worked out my entire adult life and movement has turned out to be one of the greatest pleasures of my life. Precisely like trading, the key is to find what turns you on so there isn't a disconnect. The journey is very exciting as there are so many possibilities. If you are true to yourself the activity will soon be calling you. In the beginning there is a reason to exercise, i.e., lose weight, get fit, burn calories, look well, stay healthy, relieve stress. But in the end, what keeps you going is how fabulous you feel when it is over. That's the real motivator. And nothing that happens in life will ever deprive you of that pleasure once the regularity kicks in.

Have fun and fill us in on the process, because it truly does evolve.

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I've always had low back pain that refuses to go away, I have a herniated disc and some nerve pressure that makes me "aware" of the pain 24/7, it is always there, a dull sensation 24/7. Some times of day or certain days it is much worse than others.

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Surprising the number of martial artists here. I have a 1st degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do and HapKiDo. I've also been a 5k runner since High school, but had to give it up because of a knee injury. That was really hard to do, it's difficult to give up the runner's high. Had to replace the running with daily heavy bag martial arts routine, much less repetitive stress on the old knees, but 10 times more cardio in a fraction of the time. Still miss running though.

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I prefer weight lifting to any other activity, because it offers more health benefits than cardio alone. It can also be used as a cardio workout when doing circuit training or what we call a "metabolic workout".

Being female, it's important to me to keep my body strong and prevent the rapid muscle loss most women suffer as they get older. Proper strength training helps prevent osteoporosis, all the heart diseases, and improves insulin sensitivity, all of which are concern to me. Plus, the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn, even at rest.

And I'm not talking about little 10-lb dumbbells. Some women worry if they lift heavy, they'll get big and bulky like a man, but women don't have the hormones to support big muscles. Lifting heavy is what gives all the aforementioned health benefits I mentioned, and it's the fastest path to that nice toned look we all want. And who wouldn't be proud of, say, being able to deadlift their body weight?

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I also prefer weights to anything else. Though biking is a very close second. I loved the martial arts, but gave them up years ago (sigh).

I live in Manhattan, which is very bike-friendly, & ride mainly city streets, but also the parks (which have many miles of bike paths). Manhattan can be very flat or very hilly - so you can change your routes depending on how ambitious you feel that day. I have certain hotspots that I gravitate to for aesthetic reasons, so I tend to repeat the same routes for the amazing views.

I don't feel complete without weights, though - if I miss too many days, the joints get achy, & I begin to feel weak & old.
I think most people over-do it with weights, and dont understand how easily you can be injured. If I miss more than a couple workouts, I severely scale-back the intensity several notches, & build back up across 4 workouts minimum. I've seen many, many friends decide to get in shape, get a personal trainer, hit the weights heavy, and then be too sore to workout for weeks, & never go back. This is a real disservice by the trainers - and happens often (I still see it in my gym on a regular basis, & sometimes wish I could intervene).

I also never lift for more than 30-45 min - nothing more is needed. But that 30min will make your whole week . .

There's no question in my mind that physical activity makes the mind much sharper. The medical evidence is building to support this, too - especially in older people (maybe I'll link to some articles when I have more time).

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@ddouglas

There is sadly a lack of good education in the exercise science field, resulting in a lot of "personal trainers" who earn so-called certifications that aren't worth the paper they are printed on. It's unfortunate, I've heard many stories from people who were injured while working out with a "personal trainer" at their side. Some of them have suffered permanent damage.

It's one of those things where common sense must prevail - if it hurts in a bad way, stop!!

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NO

1. There are serious athletes on this board. Don't try to emulate them. You'll either hurt yourself and/or get discouraged and quit.

2. Don't Start buying gadgets. They look great on TV but when they aren't as much fun as they seem, they get shoved in a closet. Look on Craig's List and see how many ads there are for (Insert Gadget Name here) "Still in Box", "Like New", "Never Used".

3. Don't Run out and sign a contract for a Glitzy Gym. With your back, lifting heavy stuff may do real harm. Besides, there's nothing more soul numbing than having a hot, hard body in a skimpy out fit complaining about having to add more weight to a machine every time she uses a station you just finished on.

YES

4. Start slow. Set a reasonable goal that you can actually achieve, and stick with it. Before the weather gets too hot, go for a walk every day. Walking is just as good an exercise as running, it just takes longer. Start with short distances and work your way up.

5. If the weather isn't cooperating, go the mall and walk ... just don't stop at the food court. Go in the morning before the shops open. There will be a lot of gray haired people walking past you, but they generally will be more encouraging than the "Ahnolds" at the gym.

6. Find a park with "Walking Paths". Don't pay attention to the runners, there will be plenty of women walking. Get behind an attractive one in spandex shorts (her in spandex ... not you) and try to keep up. You won't even notice how many miles you've walked...

7. Is there a YMCA or YWCA (yes you can go there) near you? They are a lot more cost effective than that trendy gym. If they have a pool, don't swim... go to Academy, get some "water shoes" and walk in the shallow lanes. The water will take a load off your knees ankles and back and provide excellent resistance to give you a great workout. Yes ... you just walk back and forth ... it ain't fancy but it is highly effective.

8. Think of this period as "Sim Trading". If you can stay with this simple plan and eat healthy, you WILL lose weight and you will be confident enough to step up to "Live Trading".

Good Luck!

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Salisem, agreed . .

Back when I lived in the south, I had a friend who used to say "if you pay peanuts . . you get monkeys." Which is very representative of the personal-trainer world right now. Gyms don't pay them anything, & burn through hundreds of kids per year - making them "study" for a little memorization test for a couple of weeks, then "certifying" them as PT's. They look at it as a sales job - if you can bring in clients, you will succeed. If not, we'll try again with the next guy when you starve out. Turnover is very high, and the long-term-career success rate is probably lower than that of traders (no, this is not an exaggeration).

I realize this may sound a bit off-topic, but is very relevant to anyone reading through a fitness-oriented thread who may be considering starting a program. DO your homework - a good, knowledgeable trainer is worth their weight in gold. But they are rare, & not easy to find! If you don't have one & want to lift weights, do it slowly & carefully, & read alot. Most importantly, learn the difference between good pain & bad pain (lactic acid burn = good, everything else = BAD !!).

Having made it sound dangerous, I have to say that lifting weights is easily the most rewarding physical activity, IMO - and the best investment of time. I do it for the pleasure of it - and my only justification for it, when asked, is simply that "it feels good . . to . . FEEL. GOOD."

(It also doesn't hurt that one of the side effects is liking what you see in the mirror . . ).

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Salisem, agreed . .

Back when I lived in the south, I had a friend who used to say "if you pay peanuts . . you get monkeys." Which is very representative of the personal-trainer world right now. Gyms don't pay them anything, & burn through hundreds of kids per year - making them "study" for a little memorization test for a couple of weeks, then "certifying" them as PT's. They look at it as a sales job - if you can bring in clients, you will succeed. If not, we'll try again with the next guy when you starve out. Turnover is very high, and the long-term-career success rate is probably lower than that of traders (no, this is not an exaggeration).

I realize this may sound a bit off-topic, but is very relevant to anyone reading through a fitness-oriented thread who may be considering starting a program. DO your homework - a good, knowledgeable trainer is worth their weight in gold. But they are rare, & not easy to find! If you don't have one & want to lift weights, do it slowly & carefully, & read alot. Most importantly, learn the difference between good pain & bad pain (lactic acid burn = good, everything else = BAD !!).

Having made it sound dangerous, I have to say that lifting weights is easily the most rewarding physical activity, IMO - and the best investment of time. I do it for the pleasure of it - and my only justification for it, when asked, is simply that "it feels good . . to . . FEEL. GOOD."

(It also doesn't hurt that one of the side effects is liking what you see in the mirror . . ).

The trick is find something you enjoy. My brother is a body builder, goes to the gym religiously, loves it. I tried it, hated it, couldn't stand to sit in one place doing a repetitive motion over an over again. Loved running but it had to be outdoors, tried the tread mill, hated it, couldn't stand being stationary doing the repetitive motion. If you don't enjoy it, you won't stick with it.

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Monpere - No disagreement there, & I think everything you just said applies to choosing a trading approach as well . .

(& probably many other things in life, too).

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Thanks. I am googling. I've always had low back pain that refuses to go away, I have a herniated disc and some nerve pressure that makes me "aware" of the pain 24/7, it is always there, a dull sensation 24/7. Some times of day or certain days it is much worse than others.

Back when I had insurance, before I started trading full time and opted to not pay ridiculous amounts of money for insurance, I was getting routine injections and had a couple Lumbar Radiofrequency Rhizotomy (RFR) procedures, all of which only provided temporary relief.

It has been a few years now that I've been without insurance, and without these treatments.

So, thanks - I am looking into this

And also, a product called Nubax looks quite interesting.



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Have you tested the inversion table

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Have you tested the inversion table

No, haven't pursued any of these options unfortunately.

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I jog two times per week when I feel motivated and the weather helps, as London weather can be nasty; I jog manly to release stress and stay fit, not to loose weight as my BMI is 18.5, so if I loose some more weight I will disappear... And I usually go to the park, most of the time a park close to where I live or the ones that are more central... [No dogs]

I also cycle some times usually on the weekends, and again I do go to the parks... I do not own a bike, I get the bike at central London from Home | Cycling | Transport for London

By doing that, it helps me prevent tension and stress. And also keeps me fit and health.

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How many on futures.io (formerly BMT) routinely cycle, bike or run?

As I continue to get my diet in order, the next step is more exercise, so I am exploring my options. I have a lot to learn in this area so would like to hear from everyone.

Being a tech guy, I think some of the gadgets are quite cool and can definitely help with motivation. So if you have one of these gadgets, please share that info as well.

If you bike, cycle or run, would you please let us know where you live, and whether the streets are flat or hilly, and what the temperatures are like?

Do you take your dogs?

How often do you do it?

How does it make you feel before, and after?

If you are unable to do the exercise one or two days, do you yearn for it?

Please chime in.

Mike

It is generally recommended to NOT do jogging or brisk walking toward the end of the work day. For me
this is true. It messes with my sleep.

I started a jogging program a number of weeks ago. I've gotten better at jogging. I can't say it's helped
me really regarding stamina. For some people like myself, it seems it is better not to jog too long. It just takes
from me and doesn't give as much back.

I have just enough room to jog back and forth inside where I live. If you decide to do something like that
I would suggest you secure the dogs elsewhere. Accidents happen too easily. Exercising indoors in some
way or another has many advantages. No rain, no heat, etc.

There is Rdio (on-line music service) which I'm just getting into. There is certain music that helps the time
pass in jogging. I wouldn't say that it is motivating though. Millions of songs. Free or pay options.

Rdio

You mentioned your back in some post. If you said this is arthritis or something along these lines, I
would suggest you use StopPain. Buy a couple bottles of StopPain roll on at the Wal-Mart or where ever.
Apply lots each time. Let us know if it works. It does indeed work for one or more types of pain. It might
not work on muscle pain...not positive on that, since I don't use it. A relative uses it and it works for her.

Relief for Arthritis Pain, Back Pain, Joint Pain, Neck Pain & More! | Stopain Cold Topical Pain Relief

Just started taking a supplement that may help with stamina. I should know this week or next if it works.
It is an advanced form of CoQ10, that is: CoQ10-H2™ (Ubiquinol)

There is no way to know if some supplement might help in such and such a matter unless ones tries it.

Be sure you're getting everything else you need first however. Iodine, vitamin C, B complex, etc.
I'm pretty sure you covered all that a while back of course.


CoQ10-H2 (Ubiquinol) - 8x More Bioavailable Than CoQ10 - VRP

==============================================================

Wikipedia excerpt here:

Ubiquinol is an electron-rich (reduced) form of coenzyme Q10.

Ubiquinol is a lipid-soluble benzoquinol that is found in all cellular systems and in nearly every cell, tissue and organ in mammals. Ubiquinol is acquired through biosynthesis, supplementation and in small amounts from diet.



Ubiquinol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Looks promising: Salt stick capsules. I will be using them this weekend on a very long bike ride.
The ONLY electrolyte capsule that was formulated to closely resemble the electrolyte profile lost during activity: sodium, potassium, calcium and magnesium.

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I saw gadgets and had to reply, here some of the tech I utilize to stay fit/healthy:

Withings Wifi scale with ELECTRODES:

Withings - Find out more - the Withings scale

Hydracoach, watter bottle with flo-rate sensor:

Hydracoach

Jetfit fitness app
JEFIT- Best Android and iPhone Workout App, Bodybuilding App.| Best Workout Tracking System

Zeo sleep monitor w/ EEG band
Welcome to Zeo Sleep Manager | Zeo Sleep Manager

a note about the Zeo, while it is generally intended to be used to monitor the quality of your sleep and has a smart alarm function to pull you awake only during light sleep, it can also be used to quantify REM in your own personal sleep studies, from time to time I will switch to polyphasic sleep schedules.

Plantronics backbeat 903 w/ Pandora workout playlist, whether im doing cardio, HIIT, or strength training depends on tempo, theres a bunch out there people have made.
Plantronics | BackBeat 903+

That's pretty much the main way I have integrated technology into my fitness regiment. I'm actually Vegitarian based on energy needs, not morals and I can tell you that since I switched I have more consistent energy levels and my favorite is that my reflexes have increased significantly, I have observed this in racquet sports and uh....catching random things, I like to put my dishes away precariously so that I forget and test myself next time I open my cupboards .

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My view on cardio is that it's important to build your endurance, but as far as losing weight if that's your goal it's probably better to do HIIT which is extremely time efficient and can be done in pretty much anything where you exert effort. I generally do strength training every other day (Stronglifts 5x5, very simple good for beginners and free), and basketball drills on off days or racquet sports with friends, which basically fulfills my metabolic workout requirement.

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Want to burn calories and lose weight it is hard to beat cycling. On a per hour basis can burn more than running because faster you go more wind resistance. It is also very low impact. I try to get on my road bike at least 5 times a week and love it. Loving it is key for me to keep doing it. Very hard to exercise long term if you hate it. Only drawback is once you get into cycling will find yourself spending more and more money but beats spending money at the Dr's office.

"The day I became a winning trader was the day it became boring. Daily losses no longer bother me and daily wins no longer excited me. Took years of pain and busting a few accounts before finally got my mind right. I survived the darkness within and now just chillax and let my black box do the work."
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A good read related to this is Younger Next Year by Crowley and Lodge. It is an entertaining and beneficial discussion of how our bodies age and strategies to slow the process. Lodge is Crowley's doctor. I highly recommend it.

My exercise regimen consists of alternating cycling and weight lifting 3x a week for both with a weekly yoga class thrown in. I think it is important that whatever you do can be initiated with little effort and time involved so that conflicting priorities aren't as likely to prevent you from exercising.

I'm blessed with great bike trails I can access from my front door. I used to run when I was younger and only started biking a couple years ago. I enjoy cycling so much more and find it more interesting than running though I have a treadmill I have to utilize during the winter. Wear a helmet!!!!

Weight lifting is nothing more than a bench and some adjustable barbells at the house. Enough to keep me toned.

I thoroughly enjoy the benefits of yoga. I studied tae kwon do when I was younger and the stretching provided by yoga is very similar to the warmups we used to do.

For me the combination of the three and the ability to do them all with minimal trouble make them work for me.

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For cardio, I jump rope and perform a miss-mash of P90X cardio routines rolled into one. This Thursday, I begin my initial round of Insanity...

For strength training, I exclusively do pushups, pullups, dips, rows, and pikes (different angles/variations)...100% bodyweight, and it "kills" me each and every time.

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I do foil and saber fencing. The best cardio work out you can find. I would say that fencing is very similar to trading, since one has to have patience, discipline and endurance to find right moment to make your move.
I have tried many different spots in my life, but found fencing to be the sport. Have been fencing for the last 35 years or more. LOL
Sport of for a gentleman!!!!

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I am living in the middle of the town next to the river.
About every second day I go jogging along the river.
In the summertime (if weather is OK) I go swimming in the river (there is a place with showers and a bar 2 minutes away). I like it as other muscles are used (and the holiday feeling...).
In the afternoon/early evening (when the US markets have lunchtime) I am often in the forest where is a running trail with some basic gym stuff like high bar, rings, parallel bars etc.
That's my base stuff. I do it in an easy way without big effort and bite. It is to be away from the markets, to change my mind and to keep the body alive. It is all simple stuff that I find around my place.

My main sport is cycling (mountain bike and more and more racing bike). During the week I take rides a bit out of the town with some little hills. The weekend I am in the Alps where I am cycling over the passes. That's what I really like (up and down).

Gadgets I don't use. Keep it simple. The only thing: I cannot run without an iPod.

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Here is an interesting video about high intensity training.

Dr. Mercola Interviews Doug McGuff about High Intensity Exercise - YouTube!

Don't waste your time racing with baby carriages and skateboarders while riding your plush grandma bicycle on bike paths.

Or pedaling the exercise bike at the gym at 20 rpm while reading a newspaper or watching a movie on your FanboiPhone.

In the following video, keep your eye on the meter showing rider mechanical power output (inner scale on the largest dial).

Note the wild swings in power output, which is why cycling is said to be a stochastic activity.

The average untrained person would be hard pressed to maintain an output of 150 watts.

One horsepower = 746 watts.


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Here is an interesting video about high intensity training.

Dr. Mercola Interviews Doug McGuff about High Intensity Exercise - YouTube!

Don't waste your time racing with baby carriages and skateboarders while riding your plush grandma bicycle on bike paths.

Or pedaling the exercise bike at the gym at 20 rpm while reading a newspaper or watching a movie on your FanboiPhone.

In the following video, keep your eye on the meter showing rider mechanical power output (inner scale on the largest dial).

Note the wild swings in power output, which is why cycling is said to be a stochastic activity.

The average untrained person would be hard pressed to maintain an output of 150 watts.

One horsepower = 746 watts.

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I do like the idea of the Mercola, Tabata, Peak 8 style approach, where instead of continuous low or medium exercise for a long period of time, you perform one exercise at the highest intensity you can for 30 seconds, then rest for 90 seconds and repeat the cycle 8 times. You supposedly get more benefits from this style of exercise, and you get your entire exercise routine done in 20 minutes total, of which 16 minutes is resting/recovery, but by the end of the session you are dying! The video is about 20 minutes long, which is the entire exercise session. In the video he is using a recumbent bike, but any type of exercise can be used. There's a great line around the 5th cycle, 'The 1st 10 seconds are not too bad, the next 10 seconds are pretty hard, the last 10 seconds are the worst 10 seconds of your life'

10 Minutes of Exercise Yields Hour-Long Effects

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Indeed, I love HIIT! After being ill for about 18 months, I now run every day again. I do Tabata sprints (20 second max, 10 sec rest, 8 times) three times a week, on a soccer field halfway through my regular 3 mile run. I've been doing Tabata sprints on and off for 8 years; it's an excellent way to get in shape. The problem is that it is addictive, and it makes a regular run feel like nothing -- it's easy to overdo it.

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Any avid mountain bikers here? I find mountain biking to be one of the best workouts for cardio provided you're pushing it. I also sprint up hills but the biking on hills and rough terrain seems to be a lot better on the body (without crashing of course).

Also, anyone mountain biking in more desert like areas seeing a lot of snakes lately? Or worse run any over? It's obviously snake season and the thought of running into one of these guys is pretty scary! Especially the Rattlers... I've seen their trails across the dusty fire roads and there's some BIG ones out there!

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Lived many many good years in Whistler BC, mountain bikers paradise... my dream is to bike and ski everyday... used to get in 100 days of skiing every year, an addiction, I can just do it all day every day, same with the mountain biking in the summer... it's four long years now, sitting here, this is hell, how I wish that I could focus my attention on skiing and biking... that said, mountain biking has gotten completely insane in Whistler... they have spent tens of millions converting the ski runs into summer downhill mbike runs, the injuries are just horrific...

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I used to be VERY active but now "most", no EVERYDAY day, I just sit around and scratch my belly button.. Hopefully, that will change this year as I plan to goto the gym right after the market closes..

In the past, I was VERY active.. growing up, I was avid with BMX, skateboarding, basketball, football, tennis, most of which I was at a very competitive level.. When I got older, I was also an avid biker both road biking uphills and mountain biking thru trails.. I used to also run hills and lift wights relentlessly.. I'm also a decent surfer and can easily go down double diamond moguls on both skis and a snowboard.. I prefer the slalom snowboard over the free style popular today.. Then, after I had kids, EVERYTHING stopped with occasional spurts of basketball where I will stop right when I get my cardio back..

A funny surf story was when my wife and I took a vacation to Hawaii years ago and I decided to rent a surfboard and go surfing since its been a long while since I surfed.. I rented a long board and with my body full of rub on tattoos, I was excited to catch a few waves.. It didnt take long before my arms turned into rubber and I couldn't paddle worth crap.. I got pulled out by the tide and another swimmer had to help me get back to shore by dragging me in as I paddled.. It was pretty embarrassing as my wife has never seen me surf and I gave the impression that I was pretty good..ha She was was having a good laugh as she saw me out there coming in with another swimmer helping me get back to the beach..ha

The last time I was active was almost 2 years ago when I was running "the dish" at Stanford, a 5 mile hilly loop.. When I started, I couldn't make it up the 1'st hill w/o stopping due to both out of breath and my legs were hurting too much, after 4-5months from going once/week, I was almost around the entire loop w/o stopping and the guys I went with took a few weeks off and I stopped going.. Its a shame..

Now, I plan on going to the gym after the market closes, I think its a great way to decompress, get in better shape and pump up your self esteem...ha Often I'm inside so much that when I get out, the sun hurts my eyes..ha Getting a good pump from weights feels great and very motivating.. Its one of those things that once you start, you cant stop, but if you don't do it, you cant start..

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Any avid mountain bikers here? I find mountain biking to be one of the best workouts for cardio provided you're pushing it. I also sprint up hills but the biking on hills and rough terrain seems to be a lot better on the body (without crashing of course).

Also, anyone mountain biking in more desert like areas seeing a lot of snakes lately? Or worse run any over? It's obviously snake season and the thought of running into one of these guys is pretty scary! Especially the Rattlers... I've seen their trails across the dusty fire roads and there's some BIG ones out there!

Surprisingly I haven't seen a single snake this year (knock on wood) riding the hills around Northern CA. In years past I'd see multiple snakes on my regular trails.

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Snakes? For once in my life, I'm happy I live in Norway. It's even too cold for cold blooded animals...

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I do like the idea of the Mercola, Tabata, Peak 8 style approach, where instead of continuous low or medium exercise for a long period of time, , then rest for 90 seconds and repeat the cycle 8 times. You supposedly get more benefits from this style of exercise, and you get your entire exercise routine done in 20 minutes total, of which 16 minutes is resting/recovery, but by the end of the session you are dying! The video is about 20 minutes long, which is the entire exercise session. In the video he is using a recumbent bike, but any type of exercise can be used. There's a great line around the 5th cycle, 'The 1st 10 seconds are not too bad, the next 10 seconds are pretty hard, the last 10 seconds are the worst 10 seconds of your life'

10 Minutes of Exercise Yields Hour-Long Effects

Hi monpere

I'm not a fitness expert so I've included some information from others regarding exercise.

Going this far:

" by the end of the session you are dying!"

or this far:

" the last 10 seconds are the worst 10 seconds of your life"

is not something I'd recommend.

I think one must look at exercise as one looks at trading. Not by what seems right at first glance but
with what seems right after analysis.

Link immediately below talks about exercise doing more harm than good.

Dean Ornish has been around for a while. I've taken some info from his website and put it below as well.

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Why You May Need To Exercise Less

Excerpt below:


While short, intense workouts can be great for inducing fat loss, increasing aerobic capacity, and reducing risk for cardiovascular disease, excessively intense exercise can cause a variety of health problems, especially for those dealing with other concurrent stressors such as autoimmune disease, gut dysbiosis, or adrenal fatigue.



Why You May Need To Exercise Less
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Likewise, you have a spectrum of choices in how much you exercise and how much of the stress management techniques you choose to do. Even 20-30 minutes per day of walking provides most of the health benefits of more intensive exercise while minimizing the risks.

Excerpt from:

the proven program | The Ornish Spectrum
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There are four conditions that must be met for aerobic exercise to produce the desired cardiovascular training benefits. These conditions are adjusted according to the interests and level of fitness of each individual.

F – Frequency (How often to exercise)

This will vary from several times per day to 3-6 times per week depending on the exercise intensity and time.

I – Intensity (How hard to exercise)

45%-80% of an individual’s maximal functional capacity determined by a treadmill test.

T – Time (How long to exercise)

Exercise should be sustained for 30-60 minutes, for a minimum of 3 hours per week up to 5 hours per week.

T – Type (The type of exercise)

Walking, jogging, aerobic dance, bicycling, swimming, rowing, cross-country skiing, etc.

Activities in which you move only intermittently or that are “stop and go”, such as golf, basketball, baseball or bowling, tend to activate the anaerobic system and thus do not help to achieve as much of a training effect.


Excerpt from:

fitness | The Ornish Spectrum
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I don't think it's necessary or desirable to push yourself to an intensity level where you feel like you are about to die. The ability to push to the absolute limit is something that gradually comes with time and experience, but really isn't necessary unless you are a serious competitive athlete.

Interval training encompasses not only all out short duration sprinting, but longer efforts (several minutes) that are just slightly above the anaerobic threshold. These longer intervals are effective to increase maximum steady state aerobic power output. Yes they feel hard, but not like you are gonna die.

A base of cardiovascular fitness is good to have before undertaking interval training. And you need to be free of any underlying medical conditions that could indeed cause very serious problems

In an activity like bike riding there is nothing wrong with spending much of your saddle time at an easy, economical pace that lets you enjoy the scenery and whatever company is available. But without the periods of intensity there will not be any improvement. The problem with running is that you can never "coast" so end up putting in a lot of low quality junk time that just tears you down, but does not provide the stimulus for improvement.

Finally remember that most of what you can accomplish is constrained by the quality of your diet. Make sure that, unlike most Americans, you are not deficient in Vitamin D, iodine, and magnesium.

Be aware of your waist to hip ratio and keep it in the safe range.

UMMS: Waist to Hip Ratio

This is one of the most critical measurements for your overall health.

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I think I've posted this already somewhere, but here it is again.

For most of us, there is no enjoyable aerobic exercise.

If you can't find one, but still want to improve or maintain your health, this large
study suggests the minimum time you need to spend. And if on some weeks you feel
motivated, you can always do a little more.

P.S. If you can have music playing, it usually helps the time pass a little more quickly.
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Excerpts below:

Minimum amount of physical activity for reduced mortality and extended life expectancy: a prospective cohort study

In this prospective cohort study, 416,175 individuals... participated in a standard medical screening programme in Taiwan between 1996 and 2008, with an average follow-up of 8·05 years.

15 min a day or 90 min a week of moderate-intensity exercise might be of benefit, even for individuals at risk of cardiovascular disease.




Minimum amount of physical activity for reduced mortality and extended life expectancy: a prospective cohort study : The Lancet

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The main thing is to stay out of the hospital.

"A hospital, isn't a place for lazy people. A hospital is a place for smart people,
to take care of people who aren't smart enough to keep themselves healthy."


From the comedy series Childrens Hospital season 1. But still, it is sort of true. You need to get some
exercise for your cardiovascular health, and not get injured in some way or form in the process.

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Doing 90 minutes of ( ... insert latest fad macho exercise regimen here ...) is not an option for some of us...

I used to walk with the dog ... until she got too old ... the vet said I shouldn't walk her she might have a heart attack... I explained that I had had a heart attack and I was still walking ... she didn't seem to be impressed ... she offered to drive my dog home... yes... just the dog...

But I do manage to work in some aerobic exercise... I shake my walking stick at impatient young folks in BMW's who think I take too long to cross the intersection ...

I get my heart rate up by yelling at dog owners who don't pickup after their pets ...

My version of a high intensity workout is walking fast enough to stay within eye sight of a young woman in spandex ahead of me ... or to stay ahead of the "Blue Haired" women behind me ... not bragging or anything... but I'm pretty much considered a "catch' ... as I can cut up my own food and I don't drool too much...

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Doing 90 minutes of ( ... insert latest fad macho exercise regimen here ...) is not an option for some of us...

I did say 90 minutes a week.

I like this post:


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I did say 90 minutes a week.

I like this post:



Some do what they want ... some of us do what we can...

I went outside today...

I'm just a simple man trading a simple plan.

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There's no reason to watch it.

There's no way to describe it.


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I used to be VERY active but now "most", no EVERYDAY day, I just sit around and scratch my belly button.. Hopefully, that will change this year as I plan to goto the gym right after the market closes..

In the past, I was VERY active.. growing up, I was avid with BMX, skateboarding, basketball, football, tennis, most of which I was at a very competitive level.. When I got older, I was also an avid biker both road biking uphills and mountain biking thru trails.. I used to also run hills and lift wights relentlessly.. I'm also a decent surfer and can easily go down double diamond moguls on both skis and a snowboard.. I prefer the slalom snowboard over the free style popular today.. Then, after I had kids, EVERYTHING stopped with occasional spurts of basketball where I will stop right when I get my cardio back..


Something is better than nothing. My opinion is that even if you just do 10 minutes of brisk walking
of the equivalent 5 days a week (50 minutes/week total) then at least you are doing something. If you can
do that as your minimum, on a treadmill in your house or outside, then anything more than that is great.

I posted a low impact you tube video many months ago. I can re-post it again. I was serious about it,
though some might have thought it was supposed to be funny.

Anyway you/others can always take the basic idea and change it as might be needed.


You mentioned about exercising later in the day. Doing this too close to bedtime generally is bad, as it
will probably reduce the quality of your sleep. I suppose with some people there might be exceptions to that.

Also, even though this thread isn't about diet, making an effort to eat better 5 days a week is also important.


As Zondor mentioned, be sure you're getting your iodine. Kelp tablets are very cheap, or even iodized salt.
(Iodine is necessary for the thyroid gland. There is nothing that can substitute for it...not vitamin C, not
anything. Liver also contains iodine. But there is no way one can have liver three
times a month and expect to be covered. Kelp tablets are much easier.)

You didn't mention any health issues so that's good. If you are still having problems getting things off the
ground in this you can sure re-post on your efforts/results. Seriously.

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LYON, France (Reuters) - A French centenarian will try to ride his way into the record books on Friday by becoming the fastest cyclist of his age to cover 100 km (62 miles).

Robert Marchand, a former fireman and boxing enthusiast from Paris, has been training every day for months in hopes of crossing the finish line in less than five hours.

At nearly 101 years old, Marchand claims to have covered hundreds of thousands of kilometres on his bicycle during his lifetime and said he plans to cover the distance at a speed of 22.5 km/h.

"If I make it, I'll become the best in the world," said Marchand, who turns 101 in November. "I know that all over the world, in China, in the United States, in Russia, they're already looking for someone to beat my record."

Marchand lives alone, drives a car, makes his own meals and cleans his apartment with no help. The wiry centenarian says he never smoked, but otherwise indulged a healthy appetite for wine and women throughout his life.

His uncommon vitality has piqued the interest of scientists at the Inserm public research institute, who examine Marchand every three months to try to understand the secret to his longevity and well-being.

"They told me I had the constitution of a 55-year-old man, they think it's genetic," he said, laughing. "I have never deprived myself of anything: not wine, not food, not women, but always with moderation."

Asked if he planned to get any performance-enhancing help for his race, Marchand said: "The only doping for me is water with a spoonful of honey that I put in my canteen - and that's it."

"If I was doping, though, maybe I could hit 35 km/h."

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The hundred year old guy rode 100 km at an average speed of over 14 mph. Can YOU do that? Probably not.





LYON, France (AFP) — At 100 years old, Robert Marchand on Friday established a centenarian record for the fastest 100 kilometers by bicycle. He set the record of 4:17:27, with an average speed of slightly more than 23 kph (14.3 mph), in Lyon, France.

Marchand had already established another record earlier this year in Switzerland when he completed 24.251 kilometers in an hour.


Robert Marchand sets new 100-kilometer speed record







In those videos he looks better than most of the diabese, sheeplike, 50 year olds here in Portland OR....

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Any avid mountain bikers here? I find mountain biking to be one of the best workouts for cardio provided you're pushing it. I also sprint up hills but the biking on hills and rough terrain seems to be a lot better on the body (without crashing of course).

Also, anyone mountain biking in more desert like areas seeing a lot of snakes lately? Or worse run any over? It's obviously snake season and the thought of running into one of these guys is pretty scary! Especially the Rattlers... I've seen their trails across the dusty fire roads and there's some BIG ones out there!


I bike up the highest "mountain" peak in San Diego a couple of times a week, up a dirt access road, and jog/run up the steeper legs while recovering on the flatter sections about 3 days. The rattler season here is in the spring and I see about 3-5 snakes a year at that time. Once, while cruising along a narrow path, I rounded a corner to see a huge rattler lying totally across the path, edge to edge! I had zero time to stop and my momentum was carrying me in a trajectory past it's head, there was no other choice. I skirted the edge of the trail and just missed it's head and as I was passing it, it coiled up in it's defensive strike position! Harrowing. I'll also admit, that for the first time in my life, I let out an instinctive scream. The good news... it was a total man scream and not the girly kind! Phew.

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Why NOT aim for an optimum level of physical fitness that will support an optimal level of mental including intuitive functioning? Optimal, not what your science-ignorant, drug enthusiast, suffering-from-metabolic-syndrome, doctor would say is average" or "acceptable".

It's not necessary to do anything heroic. Start by getting your health metrics to the best possible levels: blood sugar, blood pressure, body fat percentage (look up waist to hip ratio), etc.

Daily intermittent fasting, Ori Hofmeiker Warrior diet idea is pretty easy to follow. You don't need to buy his book. There is a good explanation on the Mercola website. It is working for me.

I am a little hungry first thing in the morning but a large cup of coffee takes care of that, with the caffeine helping to get the fat burning going. If I am going to ride my bike for more than a few minutes, a few slices of bread will top up the muscle glycogen needed to go fast.

No amount of exercise can make up for bad nutrition. I had been kidding myself. My waist to hip ratio made it very obvious that I was too fat. I am getting close to what I weighed in my late 20's. When waist size goes <32", that will probably be about right.

The waist to hip ratio is a very revealing and objective way to evaluate your health status. "Average" is not normal and is not good enough for me. It shouldn't be for you, either.

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Sound advice from Karl Denninger within the current political context.



He lost 50 pounds.

You Better Be Getting Ready (Health) in [Market-Ticker]



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But if you want to know why I got off my ass, changed my diet, lost 50lbs, went from "running" 12s to actually running honest 8s, can (and do) bike 15 miles for lunch in an hour and a half (including time to eat) and have made the lifestyle changes required for this to be a sustainable and enjoyable way of life, it's precisely because I am hedging not only my own personal enjoyment of my remaining time on this earth but the fact that I fully expect our government to do exactly the wrong thing, and I recognize that the only defense I have against it given the fact that nearly all of the people refuse to raise hell about the underlying issue is to opt out to the greatest extent possible.

If I can do it you can do it.

So get off your ass and do it.

Start today, not tomorrow.

Don't do it to brag, don't do it to show off.

Do it to hedge against nearly-certain government stupidity, do it because you want to enjoy your life, do it because you don't want to be addicted to the insane pill machine of so-called "modern medicine", do it because you'd like a 20-year old's libido even if you're 50 and do it because you want to wake up and face every morning with a bit of an ache in your muscles from yesterday's workout -- and an overriding urge to get off your ass and go use them, not because you must, but because it's fun.


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If I had some extra time (lol!!!!) I would look to start my own juice bar locally, or buy into a franchise. I think that the young adults today are finally serious about turning health into a #1 priority, and we'll start to see some dramatic improvements in how people view their health in the coming years.

I know I'd much rather drive through and get a fresh juice instead of making it myself! Takes so long!

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Why NOT aim for an optimum level of physical fitness that will support an optimal level of mental including intuitive functioning? Optimal, not what your science-ignorant, drug enthusiast, suffering-from-metabolic-syndrome, doctor would say is average" or "acceptable".


Ideally one should aim for "optimum level of physical fitness" but not everyone can psychologically
maintain that. Currently my aerobic fitness exercise is being taken care of by mowing the lawn. At least
that's something.

As for " At 100 years old, Robert Marchand on Friday established a centenarian record " I personally
believe that this is genetics.


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I am a little hungry first thing in the morning but a large cup of coffee takes care of that, with the caffeine helping to get the fat burning going. If I am going to ride my bike for more than a few minutes, a few slices of bread will top up the muscle glycogen needed to go fast.

I'm drinking more coffee lately. Have you ever checked out coffee? I don't trust ANY studies done
by the coffee lobby. They pay for them, but they only release the ones they like.

I just found this:

Excerpt:

Conclusions: Chlorogenic acid, a compound in coffee, and black tea raise total homocysteine concentrations in plasma. Chlorogenic acid could be partly responsible for the higher homocysteine concentrations observed in coffee drinkers. Whether these effects on homocysteine influence cardiovascular disease risk remains to be established.

Consumption of high doses of chlorogenic acid... [Am J Clin Nutr. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI

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Conclusions: Chlorogenic acid, a compound in coffee, and black tea raise total homocysteine concentrations in plasma.

A good reason not to overdo the coffee. For me a couple of servings is the max for the day.

Here is an entertaining video about how muscles work. Learn about the sliding filament model of muscle contraction!




Here is where the energy comes from.. these videos are a hoot!


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A good reason not to overdo the coffee. For me a couple of servings is the max for the day.




Here is where the energy comes from.. these videos are a hoot!

ATP & Respiration: Biology #7 - YouTube

There are ways to get caffeine without the chlorogenic acid.

Anyway I did watch a few minutes of the lower video. Too complex for me in general.

I would say that it's not as simple as the body doing its chemistry, making energy and
all that...on autopilot. Mental attitude is just as important, or at times even more so. I find
that way strong coffee (ie. caffeine) usually creates a temporary positive attitude for a while.
Or at least a less negative attitude.

Since I have depression, that's the best I can do.

So if the body is making ATP and the associated compounds, and yet I feel exhausted, is it really
making them? Sort of like, a tree falling in the forest and there's no one to hear it and all that.
It's assumed that an otherwise healthy person has all that energy within them...somewhere.



This attitude change relates to:
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Caffeine increases levels of neurotransmitters such as norepinephrine, acetylcholine, dopamine, serotonin, epinephrine and glutamate. (from wikipedia)

Also:

Caffeine can stimulate the secretion of stress hormones (such as epinephrine and norepinephrine), which can... (from wikipedia)

Also:

Caffeine releases norepinephrine, dopamine and serotonin in the brain... (from wikipedia)
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When I think of caffeine I think of norepinephrine. It's probably not that simple, but I try to make it simple.
The trouble is that norepinephrine is hard for the brain(?) to make. So once the caffeine releases the
neurotransmitter, it takes hours to make more. If it didn't, then we could all take a strong cup of coffee
every hour or two and always feel upbeat and energetic.

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Differences in the norepinephrine system are implicated in depression. Serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors are antidepressants that treat depression by increasing the amount of serotonin and norepinephrine available to postsynaptic cells in the brain. There is some recent evidence implying that SNRIs may also increase dopamine transmission.[38] This is because SNRIs work by inhibiting reuptake, i.e. inhibiting the serotonin and norepinephrine transporters from taking their respective neurotransmitters back to their storage vesicles for later use. If the norepinephrine transporter normally recycles some dopamine too, then SNRIs will also enhance dopaminergic transmission. Therefore, the antidepressant effects associated with increasing norepinephrine levels may also be partly or largely due to the concurrent increase in dopamine (in particular in the prefrontal cortex of the brain).

Tricyclic antidepressants (TCAs) increase norepinephrine activity as well. Most of them also increase serotonin activity, but tend to produce unwanted side-effects due to the..."

Norepinephrine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Since caffeine is thee legal drug of our culture, taken by children as well as adults, I've posted the
link below. Might of even learned something myself.

The good and bad of caffeine is below. Keep in mind that coffee is not just caffeine. Zondor, you might not
get much out of the link. That's fine. There are others here that might find something new. You seem to have
your act together regarding health/nutrition and all that. That's great actually.

Health effects of caffeine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I can't remember if anyone covered this already.

Does anyone monitor their heart rate during exercise and compare it to
some standard 'maximum heart rate for your age' chart of some sort?

I've quickly enclosed a couple links. Don't have time to check them out as yet.

The image is from the top link.


Heart Rate Chart | Heart.com

Maximum Heart Rate

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I monitor my heart rate sometimes during exercise, and it can be a good way to measure workout intensity. There is a relation between heart rate and power output but it changes over the course of a workout due to something called "Cardiac Drift".

These articles explain the problems with using heart rate measurements for training.
The Effect Of Cardiac Drift On Heart-Rate Training
Three Reasons To Rethink Heart-Rate Training


On the bicycle I have a power measuring hub that can record (for later download to a PC) power output, speed and heart rate versus time. Before these came along, pace and heart rate were the only objective measurements available. But all athletes have always relied on subjective evaluation of perceived exertion, which can be quantified according to the "Borg scale" which sounds like it has something to do with Skynet but doesn't.

From the second link above:

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In my experience as a coach and athlete, training by heart rate is less accurate and more problematic than training by pace and feel unless you are a very experienced runner.*


The 220 minus age maximum heart rate formula is a simplistic, nonsensical, but oft repeated myth that has no real scientific basis, as are the training ranges based on it. The formula was based on a quick back of the envelope calculation and was never intended to be anything other than a rough rule of thumb. So of course it gets picked up by all sorts of self defined "experts" and immortalized as an absolute truth, sorta like the abysmal Ninjascript coding practices I like to rail against.

If I went by that dopey formula my heart rate would be above the recommended maximum training HR during the entire duration of my bike rides (which are often >2 hours) unless I adjusted my age by subtracting a few decades, give or take. And it would often be higher than the ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM listed for my age, which means that I must be taking my life in my hands every time I go out the door and "proves" that I'd better replace my road bike with a rocking chair.

Here is what Gabe Mirkin, MD, a serious athlete, has to say about the Maximum Heart Rate Formula


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Dr. Sam Fox is one of the most respected heart specialists in the world. In the 1960s, he was very helpful to me when I was competing, planning and setting up running programs. In 1970 he was the director of the United States Public Health Service Program to Prevent heart disease. He and a young researcher named William Haskell were flying to a meeting. They put together several studies comparing maximum heart rate and age. Sam Fox took out a pencil and plotted a graph of age verses maximum heart rate and noticed that maximum heart rate appeared to equal to 220 minus a person's age. They reported this observation, and for the last 40 years, the formula has been taught in physical education courses and used to test heart function and athletic fitness. The whole concept of maximum heart rate and the formula that it is equal to 220 minus your age is flawed.
A study of 43 different formulae for maximum Heart Rate concluded that 1) " No "acceptable" formula currently existed". 2) The formula that fit age better than others is: HRmax = 205.8 - (0.685 x age). It has a standard deviation that is 6.4 beats per minute which is very large (1).
The formula is wrong because your legs drive your heart rate; your heart does not drive your legs. Maximum heart rate depends on the strength of your legs, not the strength of your heart. When you contract your leg muscles, they squeeze against the blood vessels near them to pump blood from your leg veins toward your heart. When your leg muscles relax, your leg veins fill with blood. So your leg muscles pump increased amounts of blood toward your heart. This increased blood fills the heart and causes your heart to be faster and with more force. This is called the Bainbridge reflex. The stronger your legs are, the more blood they can pump, which causes your heart to beat faster


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part of your post is here:

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A study of 43 different formulae for maximum Heart Rate concluded that 1) " No "acceptable" formula currently existed". 2) The formula that fit age better than others is: HRmax = 205.8 - (0.685 x age). It has a standard deviation that is 6.4 beats per minute which is very large (1).


The formula is wrong because your legs drive your heart rate; your heart does not drive your legs. Maximum heart rate depends on the strength of your legs, not the strength of your heart. When you contract your leg muscles, they squeeze against the blood vessels near them to pump blood from your leg veins toward your heart. When your leg muscles relax, your leg veins fill with blood. So your leg muscles pump increased amounts of blood toward your heart. This increased blood fills the heart and causes your heart to be faster and with more force. This is called the Bainbridge reflex. The stronger your legs are, the more blood they can pump, which causes your heart to beat faster

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I don't get some of this.

I always believed that the heart was the blood pump of the body.

Anyway, I heard that bodybuilders that
have huge leg muscles do NOT do well with long runs. If that's true it seems to go against what was quoted.

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The Bainbridge reflex is seen in dogs, but experiment has shown that it is not as significant in primates.
There is evidence, however, that the Bainbridge reflex does occur in humans, as in after delivery of an infant...


Bainbridge reflex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Regardless of all this, a rule of thumb I heard many years ago went something like:

'When you're running (or cycling) you should be able to carry on a conversation without gasping for air.'

It sounds like a reasonable rule. I'll have to try it next time. (As I talk to myself {HA!}.)


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I went for a jog at my usual pace. I could talk without gasping for air, so obviously
I wasn't running at top speed. I don't plan to find out what my maximum heart rate is
even if I owned a cheap heart monitor. My understanding is that pushing the heart to
its maximum rate causes the risk of heart attack during exercise to spike up. If I was
a professional athlete it would be different.

My heart rate, give or take, : 160 beats per minute.
Age: between 50 and 55.
Exercise : jogging (the definition I found is, Running at a steady gentle pace

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Humans are the only animals that "jog".

Never exceeding an easy conversational pace in training guarantees only one thing - that strength and stamina will not improve.

An exercising heart rate of 160 is pretty high. A 160 HR while "jogging" at an easy conversational pace sounds worrisome.

(Having been tested and knowing that my coronary arteries are clean, heart failure during exercise is something I don't give much thought to. It's pretty common for runners to drop dead from heart attacks, but rare for cyclists. Sudden cardiac death can occur due to heartbeat irregularities in the absence of arterial blockage, so it's important to keep those electrolyte levels in balance.)

The vast majority of Americans are overfed, malnourished, prescription drug addicts. (Whoops, let's not forget overuse of alcohol!) These factors will pretty much negate the effects of any exercise program. Maybe this has something to do with the poor societal choices we are making and the decline and degeneration of our way of life.

The scientific evidence is that we are built to run. Think about this the next time you are tempted by beer and Cheez-O's:


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He and Bramble argue that not only can humans outlast horses, but over long distances and under the right conditions, they can also outrun just about any other animal on the planet—including dogs, wolves, hyenas, and antelope, the other great endurance runners. From our abundant sweat glands to our Achilles tendons, from our big knee joints to our muscular glutei maximi, human bodies are beautifully tuned running machines. "We're loaded top to bottom with all these features, many of which don't have any role in walking," Lieberman says. Our anatomy suggests that running down prey was once a way of life that ensured hominid survival millions of years ago on the African savanna.

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Humans are the only animals that "jog".

Never exceeding an easy conversational pace in training guarantees only one thing - that strength and stamina will not improve.

An exercising heart rate of 160 is pretty high. A 160 HR while "jogging" at an easy conversational pace sounds worrisome.

(Having been tested and knowing that my coronary arteries are clean, heart failure during exercise is something I don't give much thought to. It's pretty common for runners to drop dead from heart attacks, but rare for cyclists. Sudden cardiac death can occur due to heartbeat irregularities in the absence of arterial blockage, so it's important to keep those electrolyte levels in balance.)

The vast majority of Americans are overfed, malnourished, prescription drug addicts. (Whoops, let's not forget overuse of alcohol!) These factors will pretty much negate the effects of any exercise program. Maybe this has something to do with the poor societal choices we are making and the decline and degeneration of our way of life.

The scientific evidence is that we are built to run. Think about this the next time you are tempted by beer and Cheez-O's:



Born To Run | Human Evolution | DISCOVER Magazine

Strength and stamina can only reach a certain level anyway. We can't keep getting faster and faster.
I can't see anyone running the mile in 2 minutes, ever (without biotechnology and/or genetic engineering).
That's 30MPH.

Maybe the 160 heart rate somewhat relates to the caffeine in my system I took before the jog. Felt ok
during the jog regardless.

I posted about persistence hunting a while back, so I know about man's ability to run:





I did come across this just now:
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Although many mammals sweat, few have evolved to use sweating for effective thermoregulation, humans and horses being notable exceptions.

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An excellent commentary about the perversion of professional sports.

No, I have never used drugs (other than caffeine), but am a long time member of the largest, and one of the oldest amateur bike racing clubs in the country, several of whose members have been busted for using the same kinds of drugs that the pro's have been using.

Regarding effort levels, intense exercise is not for the purpose of winning the Golden Age Olympics. It's for the purpose of stimulating the maintenance and repair responses necessary to slow down the age related loss of lean body mass and functional capacity that most people accept as normal.

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Rantings on Markets, Economics and Business Strategy: USADA Findings On Lance Armstrong Doping - How The Idolatry Of Hyper-Competitiveness And Aggression Embraced By Fundamentalist Capitalist Cultures Are Creating Modern Society Collapse

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just got back into the gym 3 months ago after 3 years off. +15 pounds
No supplements, just food. I'll be running a half marathon in the Spring.
I trained for 3 years previously. Feels good to be back.
5"10" 176 lbs.

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For some time it has been known that long durations of intense activity cause correspondingly high levels of oxidative stress that can be harmful. This has been acknowledged as a problem by Dr. Kenneth Cooper, the guy who invented the word and idea of "aerobics".

In addition to a diet with adequate phytochemicals and antioxidants, it might be a good idea to limit the total weekly workload. Mark Sisson is someone whose views are worth considering.


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Last week, I made the suggestion that people interested in maintaining health and immunity while avoiding excessive oxidative stress should expend no more than 4,000 calories per week through focused exercise, a recommendation that I’ve found to be pretty sound for most of the general population.

Read more: Dear Mark: Maximum 4,000 Calories a Week of Exercise? | Mark's Daily Apple

This fits in with the kind of regimen being recommended by Dr. Mercola and others now, emphasizing a very moderate or even minimal amount of high quality activity.

I need to get back to trading one of these days.....

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If you don't work out like an "animal" you will turn into a vegetable.

Mercola interview and article:

Fitness Advice | Get Fit at the Age of 50


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there are some gyms that have a "movie" room where there are some cycler machines, treadmills, etc.
the main problem I have with gyms I often get colds and flu from them. maybe get a good cycling machine where you can put a laptop/tablet on the front area to read or watch something.

I haven't tried it yet. Have not had a console gaming machine in over two decades. But the Wii or similar technology to simulate some martial arts, sword fighting or even tennis would be great.

Similar to holodeck contact martial arts training like "Tasha Yar" did in the 2nd episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation where the computer program constantly challenges. Not the fake fencing that Lt. Barkley did in his episodes..

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Back in university I would cycle maybe 3-4 times a week. I got some free shipping boxes from USPS and put together a makeshift desk using those boxes, where I would put together new parts for my bike (the black one below); grind bits of carbon fiber in my room - turns out to be a very bad idea as you get coughing spasms. But I was a kid and it was pretty fun.

You can't see very well:



My roommates were rather privileged kids, and thought I had an issue somewhere. So when they learned that I couldn't swim, they made sure to drag me to the pool nearly every day and forced me to swim in front of the girls. Once you passed the swim test, you could go borrow a boat and row down the river, which was pretty nice. I think it was in Istanbul when I got a chance to watch The Social Network, and was pretty excited when I saw a scene that still looks the same now as it used to:



Good times. Nowadays I just try to go to the gym once a week.

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Because it does.

It's not that complicated to reclaim your fitness.

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How the cult of distance running destroys the heart.

Run for Your Life! At a comfortable pace, and not too far: James O'Keefe at TEDxUMKC - YouTube!

I never run for more than a couple of miles, but ride my bike thousands of miles a year.

Heart exam a few years ago with nuclear imaging did not show any problems.

But something funny has been happening to my eyes lately.... sometimes I can use them as headlights.

Distance running is brutally abusive. And yes, it is very cultish. And my necktie bounces around too much when I run.


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I've found getting and keeping in shape essential for trading, physically and mentally it is a good cycle: trade, exercise, trade, etc.

I have a few approaches. First is a few minutes burst of either squats, press ups or - wait for it - skipping. Not the schoolgirl kind, more the Rocky kind (boxers call it a speed rope to try to re-position it as more macho!). This is great to get me out of my chair, work out a loss or just to blow off steam.

Second is getting outside, I road bike (but just in the sunshine!) and this is great - although the better you get the more time it takes to get really worn out. I walk my dog Pip every day and run once a week with her.

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3 things that nobody mentioned yet. Goals, body types and age. Oversimplifying it, let's make 3 categories for each:

Body types:
a/ normal
b/ skinny
c/ muscular

Age:
a/ young (let's say up to 35)
b/ middle age (35-55)
c/ old (55+)

Goals: (multiple choice)
a/ weight loss
b/ muscle build
c/ stamina,cardio

So obviously a 25 years old muscular type who wants to build muscle needs a different workout than a 50 years old skinny type who just wants to keep in shape and build his stamina.
Personally, I am b,b,c, so I can't really build much muscle and I don't care about it much, also I never have problem with my weight, so I only want to increase my stamina. Since I also have lower back problems during the summer swimming is the best. I live in a hilly area and I have found that running fast uphill is much more intense and less boring than jogging and puts less tension on my discs. If the hill is steep enough, you can't even run, just go up fast.
Somebody mentioned a workout where short 30 seconds intense burst of energy is mixed with 90 seconds relaxation. That is exactly what I do when I run up on a short street that has an elevation difference of 42 or so feet. I do it about 8 times and I am pretty much done. With warm up and cooling down, 20 minutes....

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I bought an Amiigo on IndieGoGo:

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I have a Fitbit already but wanted something more powerful. I looked at the Basis and decided to go with the Amiigo, but the web interface on the Basis is impressive.

Good video comparison:



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I love to exercise via playing sports. I'd rather sweat and exert energy chasing a ball or beating an opponent than just filling my "workout" checkmark on a daily to-do list. I previously used to play tennis pretty frequently when I was a "guest" player at my dad's country club to help fill out foursomes for the club coordinators for free but lost that privilege when my dad got too feeble to play anymore and he dropped his membership. Looking for

Lately I play basketball about 2-3 times a week, usually at 6am Pacific time when the markets are opening so it makes it even harder for me to get screen time for trading (committed to more algo trading). On my other days I usually use my elliptical machine or go to the gym and do cardio, interval weights, and/or a basketball workout (intense shooting and dribbling drills).

I bought a Teeter Hangup 2+ years ago but have never used it since my back pain went away after we got our Sleep Number bed (my number is 70).

I do believe intense workouts are more meaningful, but they don't need to last more than 30-45minutes unless you're having fun at it.

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I bought a Teeter Hangup 2+ years ago but have never used it since my back pain went away after we got our Sleep Number bed (my number is 70).

Is it a hard setting? I realized that I can make soft beds harder by putting cardboards under the sheet (hotels,guest house). It lasts for a few days/weeks.

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I play tennis. I love it, but I'm not "good" yet. I pay ($$$) for private classes twice a week and play with other people any chance I get. I've been playing cumulatively for more than a year.

Back in my Army days, I was running 8 miles every morning with a colleague. Nowadays, at least in my current shape, I'm lucky to be able to run 2 kilometers.

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Put me in the camp of those with back pain. Got hurt on the job almost 6 months ago, and they still really don't know what is going on. I am doing therapy now 3x a week. Squats, lunges, crunches, stretches, walking...I feel good, but my back still hurts LOL.

I guess they are thinking that I need to build the muscles up to try to stabilize my back or something. Before I was hurt, I had a regimen of pushups, pullups, walk/jog up this hill by my house, which I tried to do 3x a week.

I used to play a lot of basketball, but that is probably not gonna happen anymore. So I enjoy the body weight workouts alot. I do think it is important to get away from the computers and work out.

I would also advise starting a little slow, that way you don't find yourself so sore and miserable that you quit right away. Best wishes.

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Did you try trigger point therapy ? It's basically free since all you need is a tennis ball...

Idea is that muscles develop knots, which are often latent, but they can become painful when they get active.
The knots radiate pain in the body, sometimes far away from the muscle, but following deterministic patterns which can be mapped.

To release the knot you have to apply strong pressure on it usually with a ball or a finger, which is painful, but at the end it releases on your pain does as well..

Good TP bible is Clair Davies book here:
The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook: Your Self-Treatment Guide for Pain Relief, Second Edition: Clair Davies, Amber Davies, David G. Simons: 9781572243750: Amazon.com: Books

It's one of the best 14 $ I spent in my life.

It allowed to release pain in my back, in my hand, a tennis elbow, etc....


Another good resource with more scientific details here:
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Gomi, I don't know if this was to me, but thanks anyway. Now that you mention it. my chiro doc does what she calls "muscle work" and it really does help. Basically she just sticks her elbow into the muscle that is really tight/sore, and puts pressure on it. It hurts!!!! a bunch but it does help. It seems like it helps the muscle release...or something.

Problem is, pain just comes back. I had an oesteopathic doc check me, and he found my hamstrings are still very tight. He is thinking that may be part of the problem. We'll see.

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So she does some kind of "trigger point therapy" on you. Except that you only go from time to time, it's not enough to actually release the knot in the muscle.

With the tennis ball, you can deep massage your muscle every day, multiple times per day.
You should aim for someting like 6-8 deep strokes, 6-8 times a day.
And yes, trigger point therapy is painful, you should be somewhere near 7/10 on the pain scale, so quite painful indeed.
But with the tennis ball you can adapt the pressure on the ball to have pain in the sweet zone.

If you give it a try, don't forget the glutes, you would be amazed to see how much pain from the low back actually radiates from the glutes.

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I never got "good" at tennis. But it's a good calorie burning hobby. At times one can get "addicted" to it. Then bumming around on the court or swinging a stick or a racket at home to keep some tone but I don't go to the courts anymore with all the computer time now. (Maybe I should get a wii to at least move back and forth a few steps) At least chasing and picking the balls even if one sucks at tennis. Very hard on the knees though with all the fast sideways moves, lunges, and sudden impacts to get in place to swing at the ball.

With over-pronated flat feet I can't run (for long), and I don't want to get pads or see a doctor or such and get supports. bicycling around is ok and more enjoyable(easier) for me than running.

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I love cycling, especially cycle touring. Just did a three day tour. Possibly my favorite form of exercise.

However, being over the age of 50, I need to concentrate on bone density, and cycling does not really help with that.

Walking is good for bone density. And also weight lifting.

I do a lot of walking up steep hills, and I also like doing 50M sprints up steep slopes in sets of 8. Flat-out sprints, aiming at 100% for short bursts.

Also weight lifting. I do the programmed sets of body weight exercises according to the You Are Your Own Gym iPhone app. This app is instructional, guides you along through the workout, and keeps records afterward.

Recordkeeping is just as important to exercise as it is to trading.

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I am not a fan of gyms I prefer to train outside e.g., running and weights. However I've one slight problem..I live in London :-) and by the time I'm home from work not only is it raining its dark..lol.

Have any of you folks tried resistance bands for training? I was thinking about getting some, they're good if youve not got much space indoors... when its raining lol

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In an effort to lose excess weight, I started going to the gym but mostly give credit to my wife for pushing me out the door to go the gym. So, my workout? Just walking on a treadmill. My gym (Golds) has a great treadmill which has all sorts of exercise routines built in. But I like to keep it basic so just walking is all I pretty much do.

In August I started walking at an angle of 10 degrees (hereafter the angle shall just be referred to as a number with accurate reference) for 15 minutes. the amount of calories burned was about 300 and I was profusely sweating. So, not bad. Don't remember the speed. Weighed in afterwards, 233lbs. Kept it up, kept at it, just walking on the treadmill, nothing more.

Now, I'm walking at an angle of 28 degrees for 45 minutes at a speed of 3.9mph. According to the machine, I'm burning around 1230 calories in that time. The calories burned vary according to different machines. On average, I'm burning just over 400 calories every 15 minutes. Sometimes I sit in the sauna for a few minutes afterwards for a heat soak to relax.

My last weigh-in was 203lbs. So, 30lbs down thus far. If you can get a high angle fast walk on the treadmill, it will definitely help your cardio.

Many thanks to the site and all the contributors. Great source of info.
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I'm not a gym guy either but climbing gyms I have been having a blast at. Never really been a rock climber but holy smokes it's fun and works out the upper body big time. At one point my fingers were huge, that was when I got my wedding ring, now my ring doesn't fit like it used to as I have been lazy and too busy with the real job and trading at the same time.

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