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Old September 3rd, 2012, 02:56 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Working out

I used to be VERY active but now "most", no EVERYDAY day, I just sit around and scratch my belly button.. Hopefully, that will change this year as I plan to goto the gym right after the market closes..

In the past, I was VERY active.. growing up, I was avid with BMX, skateboarding, basketball, football, tennis, most of which I was at a very competitive level.. When I got older, I was also an avid biker both road biking uphills and mountain biking thru trails.. I used to also run hills and lift wights relentlessly.. I'm also a decent surfer and can easily go down double diamond moguls on both skis and a snowboard.. I prefer the slalom snowboard over the free style popular today.. Then, after I had kids, EVERYTHING stopped with occasional spurts of basketball where I will stop right when I get my cardio back..

A funny surf story was when my wife and I took a vacation to Hawaii years ago and I decided to rent a surfboard and go surfing since its been a long while since I surfed.. I rented a long board and with my body full of rub on tattoos, I was excited to catch a few waves.. It didnt take long before my arms turned into rubber and I couldn't paddle worth crap.. I got pulled out by the tide and another swimmer had to help me get back to shore by dragging me in as I paddled.. It was pretty embarrassing as my wife has never seen me surf and I gave the impression that I was pretty good..ha She was was having a good laugh as she saw me out there coming in with another swimmer helping me get back to the beach..ha

The last time I was active was almost 2 years ago when I was running "the dish" at Stanford, a 5 mile hilly loop.. When I started, I couldn't make it up the 1'st hill w/o stopping due to both out of breath and my legs were hurting too much, after 4-5months from going once/week, I was almost around the entire loop w/o stopping and the guys I went with took a few weeks off and I stopped going.. Its a shame..

Now, I plan on going to the gym after the market closes, I think its a great way to decompress, get in better shape and pump up your self esteem...ha Often I'm inside so much that when I get out, the sun hurts my eyes..ha Getting a good pump from weights feels great and very motivating.. Its one of those things that once you start, you cant stop, but if you don't do it, you cant start..


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Old September 3rd, 2012, 03:15 PM   #52 (permalink)
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going to walk some country roads right now, do some tai chi with a small family of cows... I call it tai chi, must look like an idiot, but the bovines are forgiving... curious, but forgiving...

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Old September 3rd, 2012, 03:45 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Any avid mountain bikers here? I find mountain biking to be one of the best workouts for cardio provided you're pushing it. I also sprint up hills but the biking on hills and rough terrain seems to be a lot better on the body (without crashing of course).

Also, anyone mountain biking in more desert like areas seeing a lot of snakes lately? Or worse run any over? It's obviously snake season and the thought of running into one of these guys is pretty scary! Especially the Rattlers... I've seen their trails across the dusty fire roads and there's some BIG ones out there!

Surprisingly I haven't seen a single snake this year (knock on wood) riding the hills around Northern CA. In years past I'd see multiple snakes on my regular trails.

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Old September 3rd, 2012, 04:24 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Snakes? For once in my life, I'm happy I live in Norway. It's even too cold for cold blooded animals...

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Old September 3rd, 2012, 06:54 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I do like the idea of the Mercola, Tabata, Peak 8 style approach, where instead of continuous low or medium exercise for a long period of time, , then rest for 90 seconds and repeat the cycle 8 times. You supposedly get more benefits from this style of exercise, and you get your entire exercise routine done in 20 minutes total, of which 16 minutes is resting/recovery, but by the end of the session you are dying! The video is about 20 minutes long, which is the entire exercise session. In the video he is using a recumbent bike, but any type of exercise can be used. There's a great line around the 5th cycle, 'The 1st 10 seconds are not too bad, the next 10 seconds are pretty hard, the last 10 seconds are the worst 10 seconds of your life'

10 Minutes of Exercise Yields Hour-Long Effects

Hi monpere

I'm not a fitness expert so I've included some information from others regarding exercise.

Going this far:

" by the end of the session you are dying!"

or this far:

" the last 10 seconds are the worst 10 seconds of your life"

is not something I'd recommend.

I think one must look at exercise as one looks at trading. Not by what seems right at first glance but
with what seems right after analysis.

Link immediately below talks about exercise doing more harm than good.

Dean Ornish has been around for a while. I've taken some info from his website and put it below as well.

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Why You May Need To Exercise Less

Excerpt below:


While short, intense workouts can be great for inducing fat loss, increasing aerobic capacity, and reducing risk for cardiovascular disease, excessively intense exercise can cause a variety of health problems, especially for those dealing with other concurrent stressors such as autoimmune disease, gut dysbiosis, or adrenal fatigue.



Why You May Need To Exercise Less
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Likewise, you have a spectrum of choices in how much you exercise and how much of the stress management techniques you choose to do. Even 20-30 minutes per day of walking provides most of the health benefits of more intensive exercise while minimizing the risks.

Excerpt from:

the proven program | The Ornish Spectrum
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There are four conditions that must be met for aerobic exercise to produce the desired cardiovascular training benefits. These conditions are adjusted according to the interests and level of fitness of each individual.

F – Frequency (How often to exercise)

This will vary from several times per day to 3-6 times per week depending on the exercise intensity and time.

I – Intensity (How hard to exercise)

45%-80% of an individual’s maximal functional capacity determined by a treadmill test.

T – Time (How long to exercise)

Exercise should be sustained for 30-60 minutes, for a minimum of 3 hours per week up to 5 hours per week.

T – Type (The type of exercise)

Walking, jogging, aerobic dance, bicycling, swimming, rowing, cross-country skiing, etc.

Activities in which you move only intermittently or that are “stop and go”, such as golf, basketball, baseball or bowling, tend to activate the anaerobic system and thus do not help to achieve as much of a training effect.


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fitness | The Ornish Spectrum
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Old September 3rd, 2012, 07:17 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Rest and Intensity

I don't think it's necessary or desirable to push yourself to an intensity level where you feel like you are about to die. The ability to push to the absolute limit is something that gradually comes with time and experience, but really isn't necessary unless you are a serious competitive athlete.

Interval training encompasses not only all out short duration sprinting, but longer efforts (several minutes) that are just slightly above the anaerobic threshold. These longer intervals are effective to increase maximum steady state aerobic power output. Yes they feel hard, but not like you are gonna die.

A base of cardiovascular fitness is good to have before undertaking interval training. And you need to be free of any underlying medical conditions that could indeed cause very serious problems

In an activity like bike riding there is nothing wrong with spending much of your saddle time at an easy, economical pace that lets you enjoy the scenery and whatever company is available. But without the periods of intensity there will not be any improvement. The problem with running is that you can never "coast" so end up putting in a lot of low quality junk time that just tears you down, but does not provide the stimulus for improvement.

Finally remember that most of what you can accomplish is constrained by the quality of your diet. Make sure that, unlike most Americans, you are not deficient in Vitamin D, iodine, and magnesium.

Be aware of your waist to hip ratio and keep it in the safe range.

UMMS: Waist to Hip Ratio

This is one of the most critical measurements for your overall health.


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Old September 10th, 2012, 12:37 AM   #57 (permalink)
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I think I've posted this already somewhere, but here it is again.

For most of us, there is no enjoyable aerobic exercise.

If you can't find one, but still want to improve or maintain your health, this large
study suggests the minimum time you need to spend. And if on some weeks you feel
motivated, you can always do a little more.

P.S. If you can have music playing, it usually helps the time pass a little more quickly.
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Minimum amount of physical activity for reduced mortality and extended life expectancy: a prospective cohort study

In this prospective cohort study, 416,175 individuals... participated in a standard medical screening programme in Taiwan between 1996 and 2008, with an average follow-up of 8·05 years.

15 min a day or 90 min a week of moderate-intensity exercise might be of benefit, even for individuals at risk of cardiovascular disease.




Minimum amount of physical activity for reduced mortality and extended life expectancy: a prospective cohort study : The Lancet

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The main thing is to stay out of the hospital.

"A hospital, isn't a place for lazy people. A hospital is a place for smart people,
to take care of people who aren't smart enough to keep themselves healthy."


From the comedy series Childrens Hospital season 1. But still, it is sort of true. You need to get some
exercise for your cardiovascular health, and not get injured in some way or form in the process.

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Old September 10th, 2012, 01:26 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Doing 90 minutes of ( ... insert latest fad macho exercise regimen here ...) is not an option for some of us...

I used to walk with the dog ... until she got too old ... the vet said I shouldn't walk her she might have a heart attack... I explained that I had had a heart attack and I was still walking ... she didn't seem to be impressed ... she offered to drive my dog home... yes... just the dog...

But I do manage to work in some aerobic exercise... I shake my walking stick at impatient young folks in BMW's who think I take too long to cross the intersection ...

I get my heart rate up by yelling at dog owners who don't pickup after their pets ...

My version of a high intensity workout is walking fast enough to stay within eye sight of a young woman in spandex ahead of me ... or to stay ahead of the "Blue Haired" women behind me ... not bragging or anything... but I'm pretty much considered a "catch' ... as I can cut up my own food and I don't drool too much...

I'm just a simple man trading a simple plan.

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Doing 90 minutes of ( ... insert latest fad macho exercise regimen here ...) is not an option for some of us...

I did say 90 minutes a week.

I like this post:

https://futures.io/off-topic/19356-athletic-thread-cycling-biking-running-more-3.html#post215060

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Some do what they want ... some of us do what we can...

I went outside today...

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