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I'm also an Aquarius... That's why I was so hurt, I thought we were brethren!

Please don't make fun of Astrology, @ Fat Tails . I take that stuff very seriously!

I am not making fun. If you are an Aquarius you should try to trade soy beans. I am citing from the scientific writings of W.D.Gann (excerpt from Letters of W.D.Gann - Active Angles and Degrees):

"Examples of live, active angles: at the present writing, Jan. 18, 1954, Saturn Geo, is 8 to 9 degrees Scorpio. Add the square or 90 degrees gives 8 to 9 degrees Aquarius and equals the price 308-309, for May Beans. The planet Jupiter is at 21 degrees Gemini, which is 81 degrees in longitude from "0" the square of 9. Subtract 135 degrees from Jupiter gives 306 or 6 degrees Aquarius. This is why soybeans have met resistance so many times between 306 and 311-1/4. The price resistance levels come out strong around these degrees and prices and the Geometrical angles come out on daily, weekly and monthly, but the power of Saturn and Jupiter aspects, working out Time to these price resistance levels, is what halts the advance in Soybeans."

I am still struggling to understand how to perform those complex calculations.

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The key is to throw away that pesky and useless inclination you have called "reason", Fat Tails.

Open your mind dude... Whatever you desire to be true, that is what is real.

Now go read some Deepak Choprah to enlighten yourself.

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The key is to throw away that pesky and useless inclination you have called "reason", Fat Tails.

Open your mind dude... Whatever you desire to be true, that is what is real.

Now go read some Deepak Choprah to enlighten yourself.

Home study course for certified teaching of Perfect Health.

https://chopra.com/files/images/PH-Teacher-Packet.pdf

Something like become a professional trader in less than 2 days?

I did not know that Deepak Choprah had followers in down under.

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Home study course for certified teaching of Perfect Health.

https://chopra.com/files/images/PH-Teacher-Packet.pdf

Something like become a professional trader in less than 2 days?

I did not know that Deepak Choprah had followers in down under.

Depressingly he is quite popular here, and probably even more popular in my home country NZ.

Whilst Deepak could acheive trading mastery in 2 days easily, by harnessing the quantum energy fields etc etc, the estimated 22 million he makes a year by bilking the gullible probably means he doesn't have to.

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Depressingly he is quite popular here, and probably even more popular in my home country NZ.

Whilst Deepak could acheive trading mastery in 2 days easily, by harnessing the quantum energy fields etc etc, the estimated 22 million he makes a year by bilking the gullible probably means he doesn't have to.


I love this thread, there is nothing that is really off-topic.

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I love this thread, there is nothing that is really off-topic.

Except that it is in the Trading Journals section, and no trades are being discussed.

I think this needs to be moved to Off-topic section.

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I love this thread, there is nothing that is really off-topic.

My sentiments exactly!


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Except that it is in the Trading Journals section, and no trades are being discussed.

I think this needs to be moved to Off-topic section.

Mike

I placed it in the Elite section to limit the number of views. It was my intention to write a short journal to satisfy some PM requests. It started out well, but then it morphed into the chaos that is my mind...

After reviewing the stats, it seems that "Off-Topic" is even less read than the thread's current location -- thus I would be OK with you moving it.

This is a thread for (actual) traders that want to alleviate some of their madness, but I don't want it to degrade into silliness. Hopefully it can withstand the inhabitants of "General Population"...

That being said, there are some trading words of wisdom scattered throughout it, but most probably aren't thinking abstractly enough. I guess my problem is that I see trading concepts everywhere, and my trading has improved the most by pursuing (seemingly) unrelated interests. Either that or I am more insane than I previously thought...

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It can be moved to The Elite Circle main forum if you want to keep it Elite vs off-topic. Let me know.

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Does this mean that I can increase my IQ by buying stocks?

Smarter people own shares, study finds

Smarter people own shares, study finds

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The smarter you are, the more stock you probably own, according to researchers who say they found a direct link between IQ and equity market participation.

Intelligence, as measured by tests given to 158,044 Finnish soldiers over 19 years, outweighed income in determining whether someone owns shares and how many companies he invests in. Among draftees scoring highest on the exams, the rate of ownership later in life was 21 percentage points above those who tested lowest, researchers found. The study, published in last month's Journal of Finance, ignored bonds and other investments.

Economists have debated for decades what they call the participation puzzle, trying to explain why more people don't take advantage of the higher returns stocks have historically paid on savings. As few as 51 per cent of American households own them, a 2009 study by the Federal Reserve found. Individual investors have pulled record cash out of US equity mutual funds in the last five years as shares suffered the worst bear market since the 1930s.

"It's what we see anecdotally: higher-IQ investors tend to be more willing to commit financial resources, to put skin in the game," said Jason Hsu, chief investment officer of Newport Beach, California-based Research Affiliates LLC. "You can generalize a whole literature on this. It seems to suggest that whatever attributes are driving people to not participate in the stock market are related to the cost of processing financial information."

'So Strong'

While intelligence influenced things that might naturally increase equity ownership such as wealth and income, the authors said IQ determined who owned the most stocks within those categories as well. Among the 10 per cent of individuals with the highest salary, "IQ significantly predicts participation" in the stock market, they wrote. For example, people in the highest-income ranking who scored lowest on the test had a rate of equity market participation that was 15.7 percentage points lower than those with the highest IQ.

"If you look at the significance of IQ related to other factors like income or wealth, certainly it plays a very large role," Keloharju, a finance professor at Aalto, said in a phone interview. "It's very difficult to get around that problem, but the results are so strong here. We are playing with lots of different controls and lots of different specifications, and all the time things work really well."

Financial Education

Hsu of Research Affiliates said an explanation for why draftees with lower test scores owned less stock is that they found it harder and more expensive to receive financial education. Getting people information on investing at a younger age may help limit the disparity, he said.

"The costs to achieve that are certainly higher if someone isn't providing that at an earlier stage in one's education," said Hsu. "If we could provide advice, or provide education, to help reduce the cost of acquiring financial knowledge, that would seem like a good thing."

The paper is part of a broader debate about the role individual characteristics such as affluence and education play in investor actions. In the 1980s, so-called behavioral economists broke away from theorists such as Sharpe, who tended to think of all investors as rational.

Greg Davies, head of behavioral finance at Barclays Wealth in London, said his team tries to gauge clients' risk tolerance with personality profiles and investment strategies that appeal to "emotional needs."

Implications

"As advisers, of course, we see our role in overcoming the irrational, emotional, inaccurate elements on behalf of our clients," said Davies. "But the implications of this for the mass markets are much greater."

Markowitz said the argument that intelligence and personality sometimes trump rationality in guiding investors has little bearing on his work. His theory comes down to the view that anyone hoping to get the highest payout at the lowest risk should broaden their asset ownership.

"It's advice for the individual investor," Markowitz, 84, said in a telephone interview. "I am delighted to learn the more intelligent a person is, the more likely they are to act in the spirit of what I wrote."

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