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I am not a scientist and so I will refuse to argue any of the points or ideas put forth here as I simply don't understand....but I had a cousin on LSD who we had to teach to tie his shoes once he got off. The stuff simply fried his brain.....he is permanently disabled but can function in society albeit with difficulty....I'm not convinced its "safe".

"LSD is non-addictive, is not known to cause brain damage, and has extremely low toxicity relative to dose, although in rare cases adverse psychiatric reactions such as anxiety or delusions are possible "(Lysergic acid diethylamide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

"Despite LSDís successful and safe use as a psychotherapeutic adjunct and experimental tool (cf. Ref. [7] and the retrospective surveys of Cohen [8] and Malleson [9]), almost no legal clinical research with LSD has occurred since the 1970s. "

I'm sorry to hear about your cousin, but the pharmacology of LSD has been researched extensively and it has been found to be the least harmful drug of all. Unlike alcohol, e.g., it's not neurotoxic.

Acute states of psychosis can occur, but the brain can not be "fried" as such. Are you sure he did not combine it with other drugs? If this happened in recent times, it could have been another substances nearly as potent as LSD with unknown side-effects. An extremely large dose might also have serious adverse effects.

LSD manufactured by pharmaceutical companies does not pose a serious risk for physical damage, at least not in correct doses.

I'm not advocating prolonged or recreational use. I am referring to it as a tool to use under controlled circumstances.

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"LSD is non-addictive, is not known to cause brain damage, and has extremely low toxicity relative to dose, although in rare cases adverse psychiatric reactions such as anxiety or delusions are possible "(Lysergic acid diethylamide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

"Despite LSD’s successful and safe use as a psychotherapeutic adjunct and experimental tool (cf. Ref. [7] and the retrospective surveys of Cohen [8] and Malleson [9]), almost no legal clinical research with LSD has occurred since the 1970s. "

I'm sorry to hear about your cousin, but the pharmacology of LSD has been researched extensively and it has been found to be the least harmful drug of all. Unlike alcohol, e.g., it's not neurotoxic.

Acute states of psychosis can occur, but the brain can not be "fried" as such. Are you sure he did not combine it with other drugs? If this happened in recent times, it could have been another substances nearly as potent as LSD with unknown side-effects. An extremely large dose might also have serious adverse effects.

LSD manufactured by pharmaceutical companies does not pose a serious risk for physical damage, at least not in correct doses.

I'm not advocating prolonged or recreational use. I am referring to it as a tool to use under controlled circumstances.

I wouln't advocate it either nor have or will try it but I do know someone that used it (LSD) and actully dealt it and until he told me about it I would never have guessed he was a user. He's a "normal" guy about 65 years old now and has suffered no illeffects. As to how much he used in terms of dosage I don't know....

Heroin on the other hand has taken the life of the child of a person I know.

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Getting deeper into the depth of material and the enormity of what is potentially at hand here.

Brain Plasticity: How learning changes your brain | SharpBrains

Amazon.com: The Brain That Changes Itself: Stories of Personal Triumph from the Frontiers of Brain Science (Null) (9780143113102): Norman Doidge: Books

Both sharper brains and this book seem to resonate with Colvin's thoughts. Imagine combining the two, to sharpen your skills and directly impact your discretionary decision making process......Lornz, I salute you again for introducing neuroplasticity to us ignorami (is that a word?)

The n-feedback mechanism on demonstrated results: New Study Supports Neurofeedback Treatment for ADHD | SharpBrains

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And, of course, something for the miscreant - Neuroplasticity is a dirty word Mind Hacks

I will post my notes from IQMindWare's program a bit later, so far I have been sidetracked the amount of material on the matter that is available. What a great tool this inter-web thingie is!


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"LSD is non-addictive, is not known to cause brain damage, and has extremely low toxicity relative to dose, although in rare cases adverse psychiatric reactions such as anxiety or delusions are possible "(Lysergic acid diethylamide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

"Despite LSDís successful and safe use as a psychotherapeutic adjunct and experimental tool (cf. Ref. [7] and the retrospective surveys of Cohen [8] and Malleson [9]), almost no legal clinical research with LSD has occurred since the 1970s. "

I'm sorry to hear about your cousin, but the pharmacology of LSD has been researched extensively and it has been found to be the least harmful drug of all. Unlike alcohol, e.g., it's not neurotoxic.

Acute states of psychosis can occur, but the brain can not be "fried" as such. Are you sure he did not combine it with other drugs? If this happened in recent times, it could have been another substances nearly as potent as LSD with unknown side-effects. An extremely large dose might also have serious adverse effects.

LSD manufactured by pharmaceutical companies does not pose a serious risk for physical damage, at least not in correct doses.

I'm not advocating prolonged or recreational use. I am referring to it as a tool to use under controlled circumstances.


Its entirely possible he took very large doses for an extended period of time. Its also possible he used a version that was perhaps laced with other more dangerous drugs....as is common among street dealers and users.

After I wrote my comment, I wondered about the idea of pharmaceutical grade LSD vs the street variety.

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I wouln't advocate it either nor have or will try it but I do know someone that used it (LSD) and actully dealt it and until he told me about it I would never have guessed he was a user. He's a "normal" guy about 65 years old now and has suffered no illeffects. As to how much he used in terms of dosage I don't know....

Heroin on the other hand has taken the life of the child of a person I know.

Excellent. So if I fail to convince the government, I assume you can refer me to him?

 
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Its entirely possible he took very large doses for an extended period of time. Its also possible he used a version that was perhaps laced with other more dangerous drugs....as is common among street dealers and users.

After I wrote my comment, I wondered about the idea of pharmaceutical grade LSD vs the street variety.

There's also a vast difference between taking it in a controlled environment and going to clubs etc. I would say that the latter is a gamble. It seems most of the "good" cases has done it in more of a meditative setting, while psychiatric institutions are homes to people who were looking to "party". It is definitely a powerful drug, and precautions should be taken.

I think this video is a really good illustration of what it can be like:


I also found these funny.




Although it overemphasizes the dangers, this is quite good:


Another interesting substance is DMT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine (which is found naturally in the body)), but that seems far too volatile to use for treatment.

There have been successful studies of both Psilocybin (OCD) and MDMA (cluster headaches and posttraumatic stress disorder), and momentum seems to be gaining for further exploring the healing effects of psychedelics. LSD has been given to cancer patients to help them overcome the fear of death, e.g.

I have a meeting with some leading experts in Norway in a few weeks. Hopefully I'll get to put money where my mouth is.

 
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Spiders on LSD

Drugs have an interesting impact on perception of reality. If you feed spiders with them, it will change the way they weave their webs.

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At a first glance it looks that caffeine is more dangerous than LSD, but a second glance you will note that the LSD web lacks stability. It appears that the spider was overlooking something.

I generally don't trade on LSD, it affects my pattern recognition capabilities. Even caffeine seems to be a dangerous drug, I am therefore restricting myself to the use of Darjeeling and red wine.


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At a first glance it looks that caffeine is more dangerous than LSD, but a second glance you will note that the LSD web lacks stability. It appears that the spider was overlooking something.

Au contraire, the LSD web looks harmonious and centered.

Trading on LSD might be a fascinating experiment (the Holy Grail?) Probably don't need to tweak the indicator colors after that.

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just a quickie here - been on road for last two weeks so missed all this discussion. Just catching up....

Lornz - if you have interest in OCD, check this book out - You are not your brain. Jeffrey Schwartz is an interesting cat - also see this paper of his on quantum mech and consciousness: http://www-physics.lbl.gov/~stapp/PTB6.pdf

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