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I mentioned this to my friend. He suggests the Turks and Caicos.

Before you move anywhere I suggest you become a tourist.
You get a flavor for the place.

6 years of planning has begun! (hee hee)

Their official tourism website is here:

Beautiful by Nature - Turks and Caicos Islands - Turks and Caicos Tourist Board




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For us US citizen, the 5 years tax holiday does nothing for us.

But it is interesting through about Windsor Canada.

I am hoping for HK. My reason is China will be replacing US as the world biggest economy in a decade or two. Want to be where the action is. My wife is a China national and she has a lot of her friends in China.

Nihau Ma wa! (I think that is correct Romanji)

That is... If, things stay on this trajectory, but I have seen a few trajectories change...

I do agree that would be a smart move...

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sorry I didn't read the entire thread, but its not clear to me if you have lived in the caribbean for an extended period of time? I would suggest take some time and live in the caribbean for 3-6 months before the final move.

just to share, tired of the cold weather in the NE US. I always wanted to live in California, particularly San Fransico. I thought SF would offer big city life similiar to NYC. Thankfully before our final move, my wife and I rented one of those fully furnished apartment for four months in Japantown section of SF. After couple of months we realized SF was not for us. We both missed our extended family in NE. The weather is weird in SF, even in summer its cold and damp! and the whole timezone thing, three hours behind the east coast was unsettling. So back happily living in New York again....

did you mistake San Diego for San Fransico? Climate of San Diego - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Belize.

Check it out. It's everything you described and then some.

If you dive like me it's heaven.

English is spoken mostly. Dollar is fixed 2:1 No hurricanes. avg daily H2O temp of 82

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I was looking to Costa Rica destination and I will go there for 3 months in order to discover the country and to prepare my retirement there ... arrival date is on march 20 in Costa Rica .

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Counting the days now, Playa Del Carmen....

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T3 service from Telmex... no taxes senor...

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Counting the days now, Playa Del Carmen....

Congrats, when do we leave?

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I was looking to Costa Rica destination and I will go there for 3 months in order to discover the country and to prepare my retirement there ... arrival date is on march 20 in Costa Rica .

For french speaking futures.io (formerly BMT) members , you can look at my blog Echos du Costa Rica ( sorry for you english speaking members to have written it in french for my friends and relatives )

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With your viewpoint you will probably transition well and enjoy it. Best of luck!

Have you ever seen how most American expats do it... they buy over priced real estate in gated communities that look like they were airlifted from Southern California, with other American expats. They insist on only buying imported American Brands at the inflated import price. Much of their time is consumed complaining about why it isn't as "cheap" to live in their newly adopted country as they were led to believe it was.... and don't even get them started on the locals whom they have decided have no work ethic and speak "American" poorly ... and God help you if you suggest an American expat learn the local language.

I highly recommend Costa Rica:

No standing army, chance of revolution practically nil.

In the central highlands average year round temp 70 to 80 degrees.

Enrollment in the National Healthcare System , which is rated above the USA, would cost me between $36 and $100 per month and it covers pre-existing conditions.

One $US = 500 Colónes and prostitution is legal ... was that wrong ... should I not have said that ...

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Counting the days now, Playa Del Carmen....

Hey syxforex, then we will be neighbours, I'm counting days to move to Merida. Yeah and you are right, I don't pay tax since 12 years.

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Thanks ThatmanfromTexas,

I had to delay my trip to Costa Rica for a couple of weeks ... now in may 2012
As far as I know , and as you said , there are areas with plent of expat ( american and others) but I will avoid these areas like Tamarindo for the same resaons you have highlited .
I will hunt for housing in the south of Nicoya peninsula ( motezuma , samara .. ) .

Echos du Costa Rica

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Congrats, when do we leave?

Mike

If all goes as planned it will be sometime between the last hurricane and the first snowfall, so hopefully around October. I can feel the sand in my toes and and the cold Corona in hand, breeze up, hats on... till the end of days..

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What do you think of the Atenas region of Costa Rica?

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What do you think of the Atenas region of Costa Rica?

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Somehow this is not the image I had of how you would spend your retirement...

Ox Cart Parade in Atenas


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Slightly off topic, but why not Salinas or Cuenca Ecuador?

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Somehow this is not the image I had of how you would spend your retirement...

Ox Cart Parade in Atenas

Had I known the fancy camera crew would have been filming, I would have waved!

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Cost of Living
The local currency in British Virgin Island is the US dollar.....

The cost of living on the British Virgin Islands is on average 33% higher than average costs in cities across the USA.

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latency might be a problem if the wireing looks like this...




Having been to parts of Africa and India,no ways in hell am I going to give up my US Passport.



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latency might be a problem if the wireing looks like this...




Having been to parts of Africa and India,no ways in hell am I going to give up my US Passport.



side note

@Sunil P

I don't know any expats that have given up their US passport. They still come back to visit .

Well there was one... but it had something to do with the indictments...

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Sorry ppl,back to the Beach places to retire. Just taking excursions like the Minnow crew.

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Thanks ThatmanfromTexas,

I had to delay my trip to Costa Rica for a couple of weeks ... now in may 2012
As far as I know , and as you said , there are areas with plent of expat ( american and others) but I will avoid these areas like Tamarindo for the same resaons you have highlited .
I will hunt for housing in the south of Nicoya peninsula ( motezuma , samara .. ) .



Best regards


If your looking for something in the early stages of development in the southern Nicoya, check out the developer at owncostarica.com as an option. I know most of the stages are sold out, but they might have something come up. They are very highly regarded in the area and have all development permits in place (very important in CR!). They will put you up in their own hotel for a couple days while you check out the area.

I own properties in both developments and plan to start building in 2014-15. Tambor is a multi-family fishing village and development has been limited by the government in the area for environmental reasons. They also don't want it to become another Tamarindo which for my family was a huge selling feature.

I love the area and the people, and I'm sure you will too.

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After years and years searching and testing, I found Anguilla, little island near St-Maarten.
Coming from Europe, taning all day long in front of my screens until 10pm (US close), I wanted a place with a better schedule and better life. Now I trade until 4pm only, with sea view, and 5mn from the beach.
This island has nearly all I expected :
nice people, nice place, nice white sand empty beaches, warm water, good wind for kitesurfing, easy plane connection (St-Maarten), hosital public and private, internet connection (I have 3Mb, 8Mb possible) better ping to US than Europe, good restaurants and good farm vegetables, security, lot of activities, tennis, golf, boat, diving, fishing..., and even a small airport for your jet plane (used by many famous people), good place to invest.
I forgot, no tax for offshore activities. Electricity a bit expensive and some taxes on all imported goods.
Also an international community with very nice people.
Most of all, very peaceful and no stress !
But please, keep it as a secret to preserve this little paradise ;-)

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kissandfly, that's looks so awesome. What is your ping time to the US? Any issues with brownouts or random internet outages?



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After years and years searching and testing, I found Anguilla, little island near St-Maarten.
Coming from Europe, taning all day long in front of my screens until 10pm (US close), I wanted a place with a better schedule and better life. Now I trade until 4pm only, with sea view, and 5mn from the beach.
This island has nearly all I expected :
nice people, nice place, nice white sand empty beaches, warm water, good wind for kitesurfing, easy plane connection (St-Maarten), hosital public and private, internet connection (I have 3Mb, 8Mb possible) better ping to US than Europe, good restaurants and good farm vegetables, security, lot of activities, tennis, golf, boat, diving, fishing..., and even a small airport for your jet plane (used by many famous people), good place to invest.
I forgot, no tax for offshore activities. Electricity a bit expensive and some taxes on all imported goods.
Also an international community with very nice people.
Most of all, very peaceful and no stress !
But please, keep it as a secret to preserve this little paradise ;-)


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Ping to Chicago (from Anguilla) is average 80ms, max 130ms. Some power cut twice a month for a few minutes (if hours, it is planed in advance) but OK with UPS (connection stays alive). I use to have 2 internet providers but not anymore as quality is OK now. Hurricane 2 years ago in September, no connection during 1 week.

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My vote is for Costa Rica--visited last year--Playa Conchal near Brasalito.

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Friend of mine said the beaches were a bit nasty for snakes and stuff... I think I will stick with the white sands of the Caribbean..

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After years and years searching and testing, I found Anguilla, little island near St-Maarten.
Coming from Europe, taning all day long in front of my screens until 10pm (US close), I wanted a place with a better schedule and better life. Now I trade until 4pm only, with sea view, and 5mn from the beach.
This island has nearly all I expected :
nice people, nice place, nice white sand empty beaches, warm water, good wind for kitesurfing, easy plane connection (St-Maarten), hosital public and private, internet connection (I have 3Mb, 8Mb possible) better ping to US than Europe, good restaurants and good farm vegetables, security, lot of activities, tennis, golf, boat, diving, fishing..., and even a small airport for your jet plane (used by many famous people), good place to invest.
I forgot, no tax for offshore activities. Electricity a bit expensive and some taxes on all imported goods.
Also an international community with very nice people.
Most of all, very peaceful and no stress !
But please, keep it as a secret to preserve this little paradise ;-)

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That looks like a relaxing beach... listen to those soft waves..

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Friend of mine said the beaches were a bit nasty for snakes and stuff... I think I will stick with the white sands of the Caribbean..

No vi las serpientes, amigo. A sólo millas de la playa y el Pacífico. Además, nunca hubo una multitud que me rodea tratando de venderme mierda turístico. La cerveza estaba fría, la comida era barata y la gente muy amable.

Tenga en cuenta por favor, que la edición de fotos se hizo para eliminar la marca de fecha, no un montón de serpientes.

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It looks pretty nice. You are sure no snakes in there? haha I was living in Vallarta for a while and on the beach my house was on you couldn't see in the murky water, and lots of sting rays in there... Next beach I live on must have crystal clear salt water...

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We saw no snakes, but these guys were everywhere.

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I prefer Iguana's to apes, hands down...

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If that video is real that's just crazy!

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Guess it's real. That's not at all safe. They should close off that
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Guess it's real.

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hope she is ok.
They been doing that for years. I am subscribed to a few Airline video channels,show them all the time.

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hope she is ok.
They been doing that for years. I am subscribed to a few Airline video channels,show them all the time.

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OMG, that's sucks, good thing they have the concrete block in place for the jet blast crowd to faceplant on... that looked about as much fun as getting run over by a car...

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Regarding moving, you could be like the Howell's on Gulligan's Island. In one
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Was reading more on Costa Rica. Leaning towards Atenas.

But I read something that I had not previously considered, that gave me pause. You don't flush toilet paper, you put it in the trash instead.

Now this by itself is not a huge cause for alarm, but it made me pause for a moment and think. That's pretty "rural", no?

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"You don't flush toilet paper, you put it in the trash instead"

Here in Mexico thats very regular and it has nothing to do with rural. It is more the problem off the wastewater pipe system (to small diameter), it plugged very fast and the second reason are that there are many houses they have only a soakaway system.

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I've also read a lot about just how wet the rainy season is, where it can rain for months on end on an almost daily basis.

Hawaii has better climate, but is many times more expensive... @Private Banker and others, how often does it rain in Hawaii? And what does a modern high-end 5,000 sqft home go for (not near a beach)?

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Nice comparison:

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I’m typing this from the 19th floor of an apartment in Waikiki in Honolulu. My wife and I will be visiting three Hawaiian islands for 12 days each for our honeymoon.

Before that, we spent almost six months in Costa Rica — and I have myself spent most of my winters there for the past 4 years.

I’ve also visited Hawaii on a couple of occasions before, but more importantly Hawaii has been on the radar more than a few times as I was looking for a place to get away from the harsh Canadian winters.

If you’ve thought about moving to a tropical paradise — either part-time or full-time, there’s no doubt that you’ve also considered Costa Rica or Hawaii — or both — for obvious reasons.

Costa Rica is a famous destination for US and Canadian retirees, and Hawaii is the only true “tropical paradise” in the United States.

The two places are worlds apart — but each has something unique to offer for the right person.

Let’s start with Costa Rica.

Costa Rica: Who Is It For?
The kind of person who will go to Costa Rica and be happy living there will be someone who’s a true nature lover.

You don’t go to Costa Rica to enjoy first-world services, amazing cultural events or even a low-cost of living.

You go there because you enjoy spending time in nature, seeing animals, visiting beaches and tropical waterfalls, catching sight of birds, and spend a lot of time outside.

If you’re not currently spending most of your free time hiking and out in nature, then Costa Rica is probably not the right place for you.

Here are the main pro’s on Costa Rica:

1) Nature. Wild nature is unparalleled. A big chunk of the country is protected by national parks, and there’s a lot to explore in such a small country. Finding your own deserted beach or waterfall is relatively easy.

2) Diversity. There’s over 12 distinct micro-climates, and you can go from balmy tropical weather to cooler, spring-like climate just by changing your elevation.

3) People. Costa Rica’s people are affectionately called the Ticos and are very welcoming and friendly. Even if you don’t speak much Spanish, you’ll easily feel at home.

4) Tourism. Costa Rica is not new to tourism, so there’s a relatively big infrastructure for anything tourism-related. Some might see this as a negative, but if you want some fun things to do, you’ll at least have many options. The farmers markets have also grown to support tourism as well so you can be thankful for the abundance of tropicalfruits being sold everywhere.

5) Climate. I do NOT recommend that you move to Costa Rica to any of the coastal areas because the weather there can be very hot and humid and not at all comfortable for the long term. If you plan on living in Costa Rica for an extended period of time, consider living in the central valley where the climate is a constant spring-like temperature year round.

6) Cost of Living. Costa Rica can be cheap but can also be expensive depending on how you live. Some things are definitely cheaper, such as fruits and vegetables, taxis and labor. Other things such as cars, imported items, electronics and gas are definitely more expensive.

7) Political stability. Costa Rica enjoys a certain political stability with its famous “no-army” policy. One thing is for sure, you don’t have to fear a revolution or political unrest in this country.

The cons of Costa Rica:

1) Roads. 10 years ago, the roads in Costa Rica used to be REALLY bad. Since then huge progress has been made and the roads are much better, but don’t expect big American highways.

2) Infrastructure. The rest of the country’s infrastructure is several years behind the rest of the developed world. Cell phone coverage works but forget about reliable internet and 3G coverage. You can get high-speed internet, but it might not always work. Power outages are frequent, but they rarely last more than a few minutes to an hour.

3) Mad Drivers. Costa Rica has one of the highest automobile accident rate in the world. A lot of the deaths are from pedestrians getting hit by cars. The roads are not lit, extremely pedestrian UN-friendly, and the vast majority of drivers are extremely careless and seem like they got their licence in a cereal box! This is the kind of country where to feel safe on the road you get the biggest car you can and drive defensively. Don’t plan on cycling in Costa Rica as it is too dangerous, and only walk in safe areas — not along main roads.

4) Bugs. This is more a problem if you live by the beach. Ants and all types of critters are everywhere and it’s a constant battle to try to keep your food from being eaten away by them. If you live in a cooler climate in Costa Rica, you shouldn’t have too much of a problem.

5) Crime. This has never personally affected me, but you read about it in the newspaper all the time and it seems serious enough to pay attention. There’s a big problem in the country to keep criminals in jail or out of the country. Home invasions are a daily occurrence in the central valley, and the police are not prepared enough to stop it. Most Costa Ricans will tell you that the one problem they wish their government would take care of the most is crime.

6) Inefficiency. This a wide-spread cultural issue I would loosely call ”inefficiency” although it would take pages upon pages to fully describe and explain in details.

The main thing to understand is that in Costa Rican culture, harmony is valued more than honesty. Here’s one example to describe this. You hire someone to fix your internet. You are told it will be done within a day. However, for some reason there is a delay of some kind (it doesn’t matter what it is). Instead of telling you the truth (honesty), the internet guy will either avoid the situation completely by not calling you OR make up some sort of story to preserve the ”harmony” of the situation and not upset you with the details of the delay.

Of course, none of that is truly understood on the conscious level by Costa Ricans because it’s on the cultural level.

Because of that and other reasons getting anything done can be terribly inefficient and trying to find out the truth of what’s ACTUALLY going on, very frustrating.

7) Language. For some people it’s a problem, for others not. Most Costa Ricans don’t speak English but about 10% of the population can speak decent English.

Hawaii
A great way to describe Hawaii would be first-world comfort in a tropical paradise environment. But this comes at a price.

Here are main pro’s of Hawai’i

1- Beautiful & magical scenery — In spite of the Americanization, Hawaii remains a beautiful place that is truly special.

2- Genuinely nice people — Hawaii’s people are very kind and seem to smile easily. They are also relaxed drivers with some good manners on top of that.

3- Infrastructure — It’s the United States, so the infrastructure is 1000% better than a Costa Rica or even Panama. You can get pretty much anything you need and expect it to work. Because the island of Oahu is small and there’s only a few roads into the big city, traffic can get pretty bad.

4- The ocean — If you like any type of water sport, Hawaii is for you. I’m talking about snorkeling, wind-surfing, Kayaking, swimming, etc. Because the ocean is everywhere, there are so many more options than Costa Rica when it comes to enjoying the ocean.

5- The weather — I find Hawaii’s climate perfect. The temperature hovers between 20 and 29 degrees Celsius year round (Between 68 and 85 Fahrenheit), and if you hate rain you can find a spot of the island that will be pretty much rain-free year round.

6- Safety — We find Hawaii very safe compared to Costa Rica. The crime rate is much less and if you leave your stuff on the beach you don’t have to be paranoid about it getting stolen. I think the fact that it’s an island also makes a different. It’s hard to get there, and if you become undesirable, it’s also difficult to hide anywhere.

7- Shopping Possibilities — Because you’re in the United States, you can pretty much find anything you need (if you’re on the island of Oahu). This makes it very easy to run an Internet business from a tropical paradise.

Negatives

1) Cost of Living. Nobody moves to Hawaii to save money. The fact that you’re on an island AND in the US makes things more expensive. However, in my experience it’s NOT as expensive as you’d expect.

Certain islands are more expensive. Maui is notoriously known as the most expensive island, but Kauai and the Big Island are cheaper. Oahu (where the big city Honolulu is located) also has some great housing deals.

Now you have big chains like Costco that have made Hawaii more affordable.

A lot of things are priced similarly as they are in the US, such as restaurants and electronics, but groceries are more expensive.

The islands’ shops are also not full of affordable tropical fruits unless you shop at farmer’s markets, and even there the prices will be similar or more than what you’d pay on the mainland.

Honolulu is not the world’s most expensive city. Several cities such as Los Angeles and Toronto are significantly more expensive than Honolulu, but it’s not as cheap as somewhere like the Midwest.

2) You’re on an Island. Some people can get island fever when they realize they are on a big rock and the road ends where the beach ends. But if you’re tired of the scenery, you can hop on a plane for another island for just $60, or fly back to the mainland for around $250+.

3) You’re in the US — That’s either a positive or a negative depending on who you are.

Maybe you’re American or Canadian or accustomed to American stores and conveniences, in which case you will find yourself right at home with places like Jamba Juice, Costco, Walmart, Whole Foods etc.

Or you’re not American and the idea of mass consumption on a tiny island makes you want to wretch… in that case you may want to check out the outer islands like Kauai and the Big Island if you’d like to keep to yourself and visit small local towns.

Personally, I wouldn’t want to be on the outer islands for a long stay because of all the conveniences available on Oahu.

5) The Homeless — Hawaii seems to have a big problem with homeless people living on the beach and in parks.

This is not technically legal, but the city does not do anything about it. You will often see homeless people sleeping in parks, by the beach or tenting by the side of the road.

The good thing is they don’t often pan handle or cause any trouble, there’s just no avoiding them if you’re heading to Oahu no matter where you are on the island.

6) SPAM — In case you don’t know, Hawaii has a major spam addiction problem (and I’m not talking about the unwanted email kind).

Spam is a horrible-for-you canned pork product, filled with sodium and nitrates. Spam was introduced to the islands during the military occupation of World War II when fresh meat was difficult to get, but for some reason they kept eating it after the war even when they could afford much better options.

In every grocery store in Hawaii, you will find spam in all its forms. You’ll even see spam sandwiches, eggs and spam for breakfast, and my favorite: sushi with spam! (It actually is quite revolting looking)

The word “spam” nowadays means “unsolicited email” and comes from a Monty Python sketch, “in which the customer becomes more and more exasperated by the appearances of “spam” in every menu item”.

There’s no doubt that the health of Hawaiian people would instantly improve ten-fold if spam were to disappear off the face of the earth.

7) The lack of inexpensive coconuts -- Try this: you’re on a tropical island. There are palm trees everywhere. Yet, it’s almost impossible to find a reasonably priced fresh coconut to drink! Some juice bars sell them for an impossible price ($5.95 or higher!), but most restaurants will be happy to just get you canned coconut “juice” from Thailand (filled with sugar). On the other hand, fresh coconuts in Costa Rica are very common and only cost about 50 cents each.

You can buy young coconuts from the health food store, but they are the yellow older variety and will run about $4.95 each in Oahu and $2.95 each in Kauai. At farmers markets we’ve seen them from $4 to $6 each.

You will also see a lot of older brown coconuts being sold, some people even sell them as drinking coconuts in food courts… which is odd since there is little water in them and the meat is hard.

Another option is if you’re lucky to have a friend who can climb a coconut tree… well then that might work for you better. Who doesn’t love a free coconut?

Conclusion
I live in Canada, but for the past 5 years I’ve been spending most of my winters in the south.

Costa Rica has been a great choice for most of those winters, and I’m very happy to have had the experience of spending so many months there.

At this point in my life, Hawaii seems to meet my needs a lot better and I also really enjoy being so close to the ocean all the time while having access to more conveniences.

My wife and I will be traveling the world for another year and then relocating possibly to Vancouver. But when the winter gets cold and rainy on the Northwest, we might just head to Hawaii for a few months instead of Costa Rica.

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Ecuador got the overseas vote, I know @Gary would approve.

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@Big Mike - Cuenca or Salinas; what are you waiting for? A visit is a 'no brainer'; even for you.

no hablo español

And it would be an absolute requirement there to be fluent in Spanish.

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And it would be an absolute requirement there to be fluent in Spanish.

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Went there this morning and confirmed before I posted...

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My opinion, based on that article you posted is that Costa Rica is not for you; not yet.

Hawaii is not you either; so let's settle for in between; Ecuador it is.

Glad we could settle that...

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@Big Mike

Depends on the measuring stick you use....

If they repeal ObamaCare I will be un-insurable in this country.

In Costa Rica I can get healthcare coverage through the National Health Service for about $60 per month which covers pre-existing conditions.

For you it's a matter of preferences .... for folks like me it can be a matter of like and death...

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Hello Mike and others futures.io (formerly BMT) members.

I am currently in Costa rica up to end of June and I have decided for my retirement location :

=> Samara on pacific side , in south of the nicoya peninsula.

First of all what is written in the "CostaRica vs Hawai" for Costa Rica is quite correct ( but the cost of living is not so low)

For me , I wanted to live on the pacific ocean but in nicoya peninsula and not in central valley like Jaco and Quepos as the climate is better.

I stayed several weeks in Montezuma and Samara
I also visited Tamarindo , Santa Theresa , Tambor and other places in Nicoya Peninsula

My blog ... in french

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Nice blog, great photos and info.

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Hawaii has better climate, but is many times more expensive... @Private Banker and others, how often does it rain in Hawaii? And what does a modern high-end 5,000 sqft home go for (not near a beach)?

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I haven't been to Costa Rica but from the people I know who have, they prefer Hawaii. And of course, Hawaii will always be my top choice. It's the absolute best place to live in my opinion.

Yes, it's expensive but it just depends on where you want to live there. A modern home for 5,000 sq. ft. will be well into the millions but again it depends on where. A house on the Big Island, will probably be on average a little cheaper than a house on Oahu. But there's give and take for that. Oahu is the center of activity in Hawaii and has the most people there. In contrast, an island like Kauai is very laid back and has really nice areas and inexpensive areas but like anywhere, it comes down to the neighborhood.

It rains just about everyday in Hawaii in the mountain ranges but there are areas that don't get a lot of rain. All the West side island areas are typically very dry while the South being dry for the most part with occasional showers excluding any storms. And the North and East sides tend to be a lot more lush and get passing showers. But being in the middle of the ocean, the weather can be volatile with wind and rain. But at least it's warm and beautiful

I don't know what it is about Hawaii but as soon as I get off the plane there (on Oahu), I immediately feel relaxed. The nice warm air hits you and you immediately see the beauty of the sky, mountains and ocean. The air is clean, no smog provided there's the trade winds blowing. I will say that when there's wind from the west, Vog (Volcanic fog) can fill in and make it look ugly which is fairly rare. But in general, the trade winds blow and it's really nice.

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Thanks Ben. I see @rtrade and @bluemele are from Hawaii too.

Rains everyday? Yuck.

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Rains everyday? Yuck.

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It's a different type of rain I guess you could say. And typically only up in the mountains. Out on the coastal edges, it's usually amazing.


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It's a different type of rain I guess you could say. And typically only up in the mountains. Out on the coastal edges, it's usually amazing.


Beautiful pic.

I have a lot of places to travel before I settle down and pick a final destination. I'm sure Hawaii is nice, but it is so damn expensive, I'm not @Private Banker rich! I would have to keep working a lot longer to afford Hawaii.

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Well, there went one Hawaiian island...

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per the article you can still get Little Monkey Caye in the Caribbean... is listed for $55,000

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Thanks Ben. I see @rtrade and @bluemele are from Hawaii too.

Rains everyday? Yuck.

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Don't like rain... consider the Dutch Antilles

Aruba Weather & Climate

With an average rainfall of less than 20 inches a year, an average daytime temperature of 82° Fahrenheit (27° Celsius), a location completely outside the hurricane belt, and the constant cooling influence of the trade winds, Aruba is one of the most temperate islands in the Caribbean.

The difference between median day and night temperatures, and between summer and winter temperatures, is just 3.6°. The rainfall occurs mainly in short showers during November and December.


Curacao Weather & Climate

Located in the tropics, just 12° north of the Equator -- and outside of the hurricane belt -- Curaçao has a warm, sunny climate year round. The average temperature is about 27° C ( mid 80s F). Refreshing trade winds blow constantly from the east, picking up in the spring months. The rainy season, October to February, is marked by short, occasional showers, usually at night, and continued sunny weather by day. Total annual rainfall averages only 570 mm (22 inches).

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why not Consider Manhattan, NYC

it's its own state (of mind)

we have many Caribbean natives and disapora, in case you get lonely for the accent

we have a heat wave that makes being in the Caribbean, just another long flight

we have ultra high speed internet, so your co-located trading can wisp through...

we have beaches and some of the best sights on those beaches

we have the best night life north of Miami (properly pronounced Mi-Jammi, by all those Hispanic Caribbean natives)

we have some of the best and longest non-stop filghts clear across the globe from both JFK and EWR, to places as far flung as:
HNL
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and so many other destinations

hey,

the weather's great, we're peaking over 92 and many places reaching 100

you've got the beaches from the Hamptons to Brighton to Point Pleasant to The Shore (NJ)

any way you slice it, its Mazeltov!

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Don't like rain... consider the Dutch Antilles

Aruba Weather & Climate

With an average rainfall of less than 20 inches a year, an average daytime temperature of 82° Fahrenheit (27° Celsius), a location completely outside the hurricane belt, and the constant cooling influence of the trade winds, Aruba is one of the most temperate islands in the Caribbean.

The difference between median day and night temperatures, and between summer and winter temperatures, is just 3.6°. The rainfall occurs mainly in short showers during November and December.


Curacao Weather & Climate

Located in the tropics, just 12° north of the Equator -- and outside of the hurricane belt -- Curaçao has a warm, sunny climate year round. The average temperature is about 27° C ( mid 80s F). Refreshing trade winds blow constantly from the east, picking up in the spring months. The rainy season, October to February, is marked by short, occasional showers, usually at night, and continued sunny weather by day. Total annual rainfall averages only 570 mm (22 inches).

Thanks TMFT.

Reading up on Aruba now. In mean time, here is a nice link for real estate:

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Reading up on Aruba now. In mean time, here is a nice link for real estate:

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I had business interests in Curacao years ago. Interesting place ... Google campo alegre curacao

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I had business interests in Curacao years ago. Interesting place ... Google campo alegre curacao

But bad for taxes I think after brief search about Curacao

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I heard Hell's pretty nice... not really, but serious... Heat and demons, perhaps a nice mix of climate and motherfos..

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Beautiful pic.

I have a lot of places to travel before I settle down and pick a final destination. I'm sure Hawaii is nice, but it is so damn expensive, I'm not @Private Banker rich! I would have to keep working a lot longer to afford Hawaii.

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that could be one of the most beautiful pictures i've ever seen,,., thanks


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Beautiful pic.

I have a lot of places to travel before I settle down and pick a final destination. I'm sure Hawaii is nice, but it is so damn expensive, I'm not @Private Banker rich! I would have to keep working a lot longer to afford Hawaii.

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Anyone have anything to say about Panama?

Was looking at it quite a bit the last few days. One negative right off the bat is that Spanish is a virtual requirement.

Time for Rosetta Stone.

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Anyone have anything to say about Panama?

Was looking at it quite a bit the last few days. One negative right off the bat is that Spanish is a virtual requirement.

Time for Rosetta Stone.

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English is the official language in Belize

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I might be mistaken but isnt knowing Spanish a requirement for living in Texas?

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Why limit yourself to the Caribbean?

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Best Value for housing by far is Los Cabos... it participated in the California housing bubble.. You can go ultra high end for a decent price... check out this 7 bedroom 8 bathroom mansion in Pedregal, the ultimate neighbourhood in cabo... home prices in this hood are in the millions, some of the biggest you'll ever see, rich and famous own properties in this gated hood overlooking the pacific side of lands end..... friend of mine's family had a place in there, the whales swimming by, sunsets to the horizon, the breezes, it is really awesome.. get a roomate and you can live like Magnum PI in this place, pool and tennis court, what more do you need... 7 bed / 8 bath new executive home - very luxurious

Or you can get yourself a nice house in a development in the corridor, three bedrooms, walk to a wonderful beach, about one thousand per month. You've got your Costco and everything you need to keep your hedge fund hotel fully stocked... Cabo is really a great place, desert climate with the best deep sea fishing on the planet... only downside for traders is the time zone...

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Don't know if Nicaragua has been mentioned. There are a couple of farmers in Central Illlinois that have farms in Nicaragua as well--they both love it there.

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Right now I’m living in Monterrey Mexico but unfortunately it became to danger, so I was forced to look around. I was lucky because one of my friend decided to do the same thing and he mentioned Merida in the state of Yucatan Mexico.
So I started to investigate more then less the same what you wrote in Post 1. When I remember right you want to move together with your mother. Actually I’m in the same situation, my mother retired this year and she wants to leave Europe and start to living with us.
So I visit Merida with my family and we decided to move there.

Here some answer from post 1

- Warm climate - Merida Climate and Weather Informaion Merida Yucatan MX
- High speed reliable internet - 3 different Internet provider
- Reliable power for most part (I can get a generator) - I will buy one (gas powered generator)
- English spoken is a big plus - no problem because of tourism and there are a huge North American society
- Low taxes on income from trading - Not sure, must be investigate. I dont pay any
- Stable currency as much as possible - Open in a Mex Bank (example Scotiabank) a USD account. No problem
- Easy Citizenship requirements, home ownership, etc - I maked my mexican citizenship 4 years ago, but I’m maried. Home ownership no problem
- People are happy and friendly - Yes
- Medical Care, Hospital - Portal Star Médica
- Medical Insurance - Seguros para tu Salud AXA MetLife | Seguros de Gastos Médicos Important Info: People only accepted before 65 years old, cost between 32000 and 60000 MXN, depends on deductible
- Because it is Mexico and there are a lot of stuff in the newspaper. Violence: Merida is actually one of the most secure city in North America!!


I found a lot of answers on this Website Yolisto it is maked by North Americans who live in Merida.
I maked also a list of interesting websites when I started to look around, I delete all spanish written ones and put it on a *.doc.

Hope it helps and I'm open for any questions

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Hi Trader Friends
I was chatting with BM recently when I realized that we both seem to have similar interests outside of just trading of course. He suggested that I post some info that perhaps some of you may be interested in knowing so that all of the members of this forum could benefit. I hope I have chosen the correct area in which to do so, so here it goes.

I have been trading for nearly fifteen years now and I like many traders was drawn to the industry because I wanted to be Free and Independent. I did not want to answer to a boss everyday and I like the idea of virtually unlimited income. As I have grown as a trader I have been fortunate enough to finally achieve consistent success as well as the independence that I longed for when I stumbled into my first trade back in the late 90's I think that part of the profession really does appeal to me more than the money part, but a couple of years back my whole world changed when I lost my beloved wife of 11 years due to Ovarian Cancer.. That was indeed a low spot in not only my life, but it also created a huge change in me that caused me to really start to reconsider alot of things. Now I don't really care to get into politics here, but lets suffice it to say that after a nearly three year cancer battle and dealing with doctors and insurance companies I came to the conclusion that just maybe there could be some things about life here in the U.S. that could be better. like perhaps a less stressful lifestyle, healthier food, cleaner air, less politics, less government, etc., etc.

I was forty years old had no children, no siblings and nothing holding me back from going out and seeing the world and perhaps finding that perfect paradise where I could set up shop as a trader. Of course the ideal location for me was somewhere with water, sunshine and freedom. I went to the Cayman Islands first and checked it out pretty good, but quickly decided that Island Fever would set in quickly and at the time, the infrastructure down there was just not conducive to my needs, so that one was marked off the list almost instantly.

After that I toured the entire Yucatan Peninsula but ruled it out because of safety issues.

After that my search took me to Belize and it so happened that I had a tremendous opportunity in the field that I have always moved in and out of when it made sense which was Real Estate Development. So, after carefully considering it for FIVE MINUTES I loaded all of the important things I needed you know things like fishing poles, scuba gear a good mountain bike and enough trading gear to do whatever I needed into my Suburban and I drove down into Mexico and right down the coast into Belize.. Now that was pretty scary at times as Mexico was already really heating up with the whole Drug War, but three days later I made it to the other side alive and dropped down into Corazol Belize.. WHAT an Armpit!! I was not impressed to say the least, but I had seen pictures of the place I was going to live, so shrugged off what I saw there and continued South down into what I was told was the nicest place in the Mainland of Belize which is a little fishing village in the Stann Creek District called Placencia.. Well it was pretty there and I was able to find an incredible Condo right on the beach that was really quite a good deal considering what I got there for the money. When I leased it I was assured that the internet there was BLAZING FAST........ha ha ha they forgot the part about WHEN IT WORKS.. They also left out the part about the fact the in Belize there is no Power Grid.. so what that amounts too is that if one major link goes down ANYWHERE in the COUNTRY, that the WHOLE COUNTRY gets disconnected until it is fixed... ok so when the internet worked the electricity didn't.. I also found out that The so called Blazing Fast Internet actually ran at about three times the speed of SMELL for a few hours a day and then it would slow way down... not to mention, SKYPE is BLOCKED due to low bandwidth and capacity.. yep it got pretty bad, pretty fast...
Finally, I got into about a three week trend where i had internet AND electricity at the same time.. I found that by getting a VPN I could get around the blocked Skype issue, but still the internet was so bad that talking on Skype, Magic Jack, Vonage (i tried them all) just would not work unless you wanted to wait three minutes after you spoke before the person on the other end could hear what you said.. As you can imagine, this did not work well at all for trading.. The final blow came though when I had to get involved with the Emergency Medical and Health Care system there.. Let's put it this way DON'T GET SICK OR INJURED IN BELIZE OR YOU MAY DIE!!
Again could write a book on that.. Well so I found out the hard way that Belize was not the place for me. so a year later after I had tried my best to make it work, I came back to the states. Broke, defeated and with all of my belongings stored in my suburban down there. Another year and four thousand dollars later I finally got my vehicle back but all of my belongings (even underwear) were gone.. My house was leased out on a long term contract, so I was basically homeless too.. It was a disaster.

After finally getting back into good health due to the near death accident that ultimately sent me home I managed to get things turned around and got it back together. If I were not a trader though I honestly don't know how I could have recovered from the devastation that had taken place in my life. I got back in the hunt for Traders Paradise though

So, my travels then took me to COSTA RICA!!!! NOW WE ARE TALKING... This time I knew what I needed to look for GOOD INFRASTRUCTURE... my story is getting long here already so I am going to wrap it up quickly and apologize in advance for my lack of literary finesse in this post. And tell you what I found in Costa Rica because this may be where the search for Traders Paradise finally ends for me.
Here is what I found:

1. Health Care in Costa Rica - EXCELLENT!!! they do have Socialized Health Care but not Mandatory.
The doctors in Costa Rica are from all over the world and many are ex-pats that have moved to the country for many of the same reasons that I plan to, which I already listed in the beginning of the post.. Hospitals are new in many areas and they are very skilled and professional. When I was injured in Belize I was told my back was broken and treated as such in reality they told me later that they were not sure because the x-ray machine used on me was built in 1968 "they thought" and they were starting to notice some inconsistencies... then they wanted to open my skull and do surgery but they were not sure because their MRI machine was down.. NOT!!! Well don't worry.. In Costa Rica it just flat is not like that.. So Good Health Care in Costa Rica CHECK>>

2. Infrastructure - HIGH SPEED 10GB Internet in MOST of the country and constantly developing new areas.. It is a little pricey compared to the 40 GB Fiber Optics I get here in Texas. Here I pay about 99 dollars per month for 40 GB.. In Costa Rica I can get 10GB for 90 dollars per month.. I ran 8 GB here for the last three years though and it was fine for what I need to do as a trader 10 GB is fine.

With Good internet the communication problem is not nearly as much of a concern and you can use Skype as well as other VOIP services with little interruption.

Cell Phone Service - In Belize they frequently had hurricanes and storms coming in off the Caribbean. lightening stikes would knock things out and due to the excessive duties that are charged on imports into the country parts could take days and even weeks to arrive and literally they would have to go by donkey into the mountains to get to the backbone and make repairs... unbelievable and just really lame.. In Costa Rica there are more cell phone towers (short ones that are not eyesores) than we have starbucks here in the states.

Roads and Travel - Two International Airports and a third one under construction, Nice smooth highways and paved roads, Multitudes of Public Transportation Options.

3. Healthy Food - No genetically modified crops, organically grown produce, fresh seafood, free range chickens, grass fed beef and an abundant supply of everything.. I can purchase groceries at a fraction of the cost of what we pay here in the states and I don't have to worry about glowing in the dark later if I eat it... Now in Belize we did have fresh produce and organic meats, but with the electricity constantly on the blink and fuel for generators running over 7 U.S. dollars per gallon, refrigeration was not the best option so most of the meat products were frozen and due to the poverty levels there these items would end up frozen for months and maybe even years in some cases before being purchased.. not good... This is not an issue in Costa Rica.. Good Food!!! Healthy Food.

4. Economy - lets face it the economy is bad in most parts of the world these days, but in Costa Rica there are many, industries and many financially independent ex-pats from all over the world who keep their economy going strong. Our dollars are pretty powerful there and they like to take them but you get alot for one of them.. I found that I can have a driver, a housekeeper a gardener for a couple hundred bucks a week... my housekeepers there run me about ten bucks a day for example. I pay a hundred a day here in the states for that service and they don't even do my laundry ha ha...all in all with all of the tourism and industry in Costa Rica I would say that the economy is pretty strong, but it is tied to the dollar and what happens here in the states can impact them as well.. At the end of the day though if all heck broke loose you would not go hungry there and living off the land is common. Try doing that in New York City or Houston Texas in the event of a financial or natural crisis.. Aint happening folks..

5. Lifestyle - Well it is awesome.. you could do something new just about every day. There are gyms, beaches, mountains, rain forests just about anything you want except deserts. The locals are beautiful people that are down to earth, innocent for the most part and always friendly and helpful.. They do their best to make sure you have what you want or need.. There are many, many services including big box stores in the larger city of San Jose if you like to shop. Most of all though there is a sense of freedom that you feel the moment you get out of the city and into the countryside.. You have to go there to get it. I cant describe it.

6. Weather - Much like Belize or other places in Central America.. there is a rainy season that peaks in November when you will experience BIBLICAL RAIN FALL for days sometimes. For the most part though it is in the 80's and sunny and beautiful during the day. Rain comes in in the evenings and cools things off. Each morning is fresh and clean after overnight rains. If you live in an area like I do the rain is welcome and actually not an issue.. Many people do however leave during the rainiest months but you are a two and a half to three hour flight away from most major International Ports of Entry in the States.

There are more reasons I can list why Costa Rica is my top pick as Traders Paradise, but this post is WAY LONG already so I will leave it here. If this post is liked I will be happy to share more..

Hope you all find this information to be helpful.

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Hey Jeep,

Great to see you posting here at futures.io (formerly BMT). I enjoyed reading your post. Very informative.

Haven't heard from you in quite a while and noticed you did a presentation for NT. I sent you an email to say hi but I apparently have a wrong address. Anyway, it seems you've come a long way since that other place we shared. Glad to see it and look forward to your participation here.

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Interesting you shared that as we were looking for warm climate and good trading hours.

Dominican Republic is what we came up with as the safest and easiest. Also the best internet etc.. Just from what I read, no practical experience. Never been there.

Perhaps it varies by area, but from personal experience of friends who lived there, safe is not how they described it.

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Hello Mike.. It's great to hear from you and see you are still in the game yourself... What a journey it has been my friend...
How's life in West Texas?
Would love to chat again sometime.

Futures Operator.. glad you enjoyed the post. I have looked at Dominican Republic but have not been there myself either. It looks and smells too much like Belize to me though.. Sure is a good reason to go check it out though isn't it?

I think Panama will be target of my next big probe..

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best for tax is SaiPan or Grand Cayman according to this article and since this is a hard working guy i am sure he already making sure internet connection is adequate.
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hello ,

I have decided to retire in Costa Rica following a first trip there in 1st quarter 2012 and will be locared in Samara , on the pacific ocean side.
My move in Costa Ricais planned in November 2012 .

For french speakers , my blog about Costa rica .. Echos du Costa Rica


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hello ,

I have decided to retire in Costa Rica following a first trip there in 1st quarter 2012 and will be locared in Samara , on the pacific ocean side.
My move in Costa Ricais planned in November 2012 .

For french speakers , my blog about Costa rica .. Echos du Costa Rica


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I really don't know what to do with that info about internet speeds.. says CR is like less than 3mbps.. Says U.S. is 15+..
I personally get much better than what is reported here in both places.. I am paying for 40mbs here and speed test hits me at about 37 to 38.5 on the dwnld.. In Manuel Antonio I tested 7 dn.. I have no idea how they base the averages they report in these things... Planning to spend the entire summer of 2013 in Manuel Antonio and find out for sure though. Thanks for the info Futures Operator..

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Was revisiting this again (as always). Who here lives in Puerto Rico? I'm starting to think I should maybe rule out Costa Rica, and lean more towards Panama. But I also want to consider Puerto Rico, the trouble is the real estate prices.

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Was revisiting this again (as always). Who here lives in Puerto Rico? I'm starting to think I should maybe rule out Costa Rica, and lean more towards Panama. But I also want to consider Puerto Rico, the trouble is the real estate prices.

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Have people there and have visited, love it. Have never seen such friendly people anywhere, it was almost scary. You ask for directions, they offer to take you wherever you're going lol. Prices likely depend on area, but away from the cities, it can be quite inexpensive. Oh, and the scenery, cannot be described or even seen in pictures, just out of this world. Also benefits of being a US Territory, cheap flights, no passport required, US driver's license valid, many similarities.

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Have people there and have visited, love it. Have never seen such friendly people anywhere, it was almost scary. You ask for directions, they offer to take you wherever you're going lol. Prices likely depend on area, but away from the cities, it can be quite inexpensive. Oh, and the scenery, cannot be described or even seen in pictures, just out of this world. Also benefits of being a US Territory, cheap flights, no passport required, US driver's license valid, many similarities.

How much spanish do you need to know to function in society?

Real estate costs?

Number of Americans living there?

I'm still researching this with the help of google, but like to have direct opinions too.

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How much spanish do you need to know to function in society?

Real estate costs?

Number of Americans living there?

I'm still researching this with the help of google, but like to have direct opinions too.

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This is all based on my limited experience, I've been there a few times. No spanish, many/most people speak english, especially in the cities. When you need to talk to folks who don't speak english, you can get by with broken spanish/sign langauge/gestures (have done it, lol). Besides, spanish is really easy to learn and fun. Also great food, beautiful women, everyone is happy.

No stats off the top of my head on number of Americans, but in my limited time, I met a quite a few, including succesful businessmen who left it all behind to move to a simpler life and couldn't be happier.

I don't know much on real estate there, I'm sure its developing and prices are increasing over time, but I know people who privately rent small houses for a few hundred $, and well under $1,000/mo.

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I'm starting to think I should maybe rule out Costa Rica.

Why ya ruling out Costa Rica?

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The one thing I have noticed about the ex-pats I have known over the years .... there seems to be two groups...

Group1: Those who embrace the local culture , learn the language and rent or buy property away from the "American Zone"

Group2: Those who move into gated communities of ex-pats where they live just like they did in the USA.

I was always amazed at the difference in answers I got asking both groups the same question.

Q: Is it expensive?

Group1: I bought a really cute 3 bedroom for a fraction of what it cost in USA. Local fruit and vegetables are so cheap!

Group2: I bought a really nice 3 bedroom for 25% less than in the USA, but American food is expensive and hard to find.

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Hi TFMT ,

Correct .

myself i am in group 1 and I do not really understand why expats want to live in a gated community among their countrymen .
To be able to speak some minimum spanish language is mandatory even if it is possible to survive in English in all places.

Concerning housing cost in costa Rica , you have to forgot to buy a comfortable 3 bedromm house below 200 K USD at least in tourist area like Samara on the pacific side.
The cost of living is not so low .

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Was revisiting this again (as always). Who here lives in Puerto Rico? I'm starting to think I should maybe rule out Costa Rica, and lean more towards Panama. But I also want to consider Puerto Rico, the trouble is the real estate prices.

Mike

I live in PR. Would not recommend living here, lol. If you have any questions about here I can throw in some opinions. Spanish is the main language here but English is understood, especially in the more tourist areas. The west side of the island there is a municipality called Rincon, a lot of North Americans living/retiring there, it is a surfing community, very relax and clean, not densely populated. The capital San Juan is very populated, of the 4 million people in the island probably around 2mil live there. In the east side is a more maritime feel, it's where most people have boats to sail to the islands towards the east, the US Virgin Islands, and British Virgin Islands. They are beautiful and English is the main language in those, very small population in those.

If I were looking to go someplace it would probably be Florida. Lot's of nice coast there, love the white sand beaches on the northwest coast and the south with access to the Keys. Costa Rica & Panama might sound nice, but I don't feel comfortable with the idea of leaving the US. Though most of all it's because I am not familiar with the laws & "safety" in other countries.

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