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Started:June 21st, 2011 (01:19 PM) by rtrade Views / Replies:2,425 / 32
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Old June 24th, 2011, 10:59 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Cancel the mandate...I don't care... I just want to be able to buy the damn stuff and not have it cancelled on me when I need to use it. I don't think that's too much to ask.

I agree with you totally, no problems there.

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I should be able to buy the same coverage that we provide for free to convicts. I don't think that is too much to ask.

It's not to much to ask. But like I mentioned with congress's health care, taxpayers are subsidizing that healthcare. I'm simply saying that without that subsidy, whatever it costs is not going to be the same when we are all paying for it.

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I do take issue when Insurance companies and Republicans tell me the solution is for me to die as quickly and cheaply as possible. Believe it or not... I am not enthused with their solution.

Hehe, if I ever get my trading right, I will personally drive to Texas and help you place your trades myself in your old age!

But you are playing the role of demigog here. No republican is telling you to die quickly. Name me a republican in congress that is telling you the solution to healthcare is is for you to die quickly?

And actually, if you want to again make this a republican vs. democrat thing again, it was the republicans that were making the big stink about the so-called "End of life" counciling portion of the bill that was removed. Do you not remember that as being a big part of the discourse between repubs and dems?

Do you remember this exchange were Obama tells an older woman who was advised by a doctor that she needed a costly pacemaker, and B.O. tells her that maybe she should just take a pain killer instead b/c it was cheaper: YouTube - ‪Obama to Jane Sturm: Hey, take a pill‬‏

Now the republicans went crazy over this and I think they went overboard. But TMFT, nobody is telling you the solution to your healthcare problems is that you should just die. That is kind of one of those emotional cards.

I hope this discussion is recieved in good spirit. I typically try not to discuss politics outside of my normal channels and I hope I'm not offending anyone?

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Actually the blame goes equally to Obama and the Democrats. There were 2 Republicans who voted for the healthcare bill between the house and senante. The Democrats own this one. They are going to live or die by it.

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I don't know anyone who thinks ObamaCare is the right answer. It is better than nothing. However it is a big POS now compared to what was originally proposed during the campaign. Now ask yourself why it's a big POS now, and frankly, again my opinion here --- I place blame about equally split on Obama and on Republicans. A lot of stuff was added in order to get the bill passed, stuff that makes no sense to me but apparently makes sense to the insurance companies bottom line. Imagine that.


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