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Everyone is waking up to health care reform these days. The problem is that ObummerCare breaks more than it fixes and will cost everyone more and illegally requires everyone to have insurance. Health care needs reform, not a replacement with socialist medicine. If I don't want insurance I shouldn't be forced into it. If I need to be treated I don't want to wait six weeks to see the specialist. Republicans know there needs to be some changes but Democrats have an agenda to socialize health care at any cost and that is plain wrong. Why do you think they rammed the plan through without anyone actually having read it? That is insane and now we are finding all the nasty things that are included.

1. Please list the things it breaks.

Which of these are the "breaks" you speak of?

Insurance companies barred from dropping people from coverage when they get sick. Lifetime coverage limits eliminated and annual limits restricted.

Insurers barred from excluding children for coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

Young adults able to stay on their parents' health plans until age 26. Many health plans currently drop dependents from coverage when they turn 19 or finish college.

Uninsured adults with a pre-existing conditions will be able to obtain health coverage through a new program that will expire once new insurance exchanges begin operating in 2014.

A temporary reinsurance program is created to help companies maintain health coverage for early retirees between the ages of 55 and 64. This also expires in 2014.

Medicare drug beneficiaries who fall into the "doughnut hole" coverage gap will get a $250 rebate. The bill eventually closes that gap which currently begins after $2,700 is spent on drugs. Coverage starts again after $6,154 is spent.

A tax credit becomes available for some small businesses to help provide coverage for workers.

A 10% tax on indoor tanning services that use ultraviolet lamps goes into effect on July 1.

2. Define "Socialist" medicine.

England has Socialized medicine . All health care workers are employees of the government. Where is it written that this bill will force Doctors in the USA to become federal employees?

3. Please give a summary of the Republican Health Reform Plan.

There isn't one. So far they have proposed cutting Medicare and Medicaid while spending $120 BILLION this year alone in Afganistan

4. Why can't Republicans read?

The debate went on for months. Were the Republicans barred access?

5. List nasty surprises.

The nastiest surprise is, Sarah Palin was right about something. There are Death Squads... or as they were formerly called , Republican Congressmen.

Just curious, where do you get your insurance? Did you buy a policy ... do you have insurance through your employer?

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1. Please list the things it breaks.

Which of these are the "breaks" you speak of?

Insurance companies barred from dropping people from coverage when they get sick. Lifetime coverage limits eliminated and annual limits restricted.

Insurers barred from excluding children for coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

Young adults able to stay on their parents' health plans until age 26. Many health plans currently drop dependents from coverage when they turn 19 or finish college.

Uninsured adults with a pre-existing conditions will be able to obtain health coverage through a new program that will expire once new insurance exchanges begin operating in 2014.

A temporary reinsurance program is created to help companies maintain health coverage for early retirees between the ages of 55 and 64. This also expires in 2014.

Medicare drug beneficiaries who fall into the "doughnut hole" coverage gap will get a $250 rebate. The bill eventually closes that gap which currently begins after $2,700 is spent on drugs. Coverage starts again after $6,154 is spent.

A tax credit becomes available for some small businesses to help provide coverage for workers.

A 10% tax on indoor tanning services that use ultraviolet lamps goes into effect on July 1.

2. Define "Socialist" medicine.

England has Socialized medicine . All health care workers are employees of the government. Where is it written that this bill will force Doctors in the USA to become federal employees?

3. Please give a summary of the Republican Health Reform Plan.

There isn't one. So far they have proposed cutting Medicare and Medicaid while spending $120 BILLION this year alone in Afganistan

4. Why can't Republicans read?

The debate went on for months. Were the Republicans barred access?

5. List nasty surprises.

The nastiest surprise is, Sarah Palin was right about something. There are Death Squads... or as they were formerly called , Republican Congressmen.

Just curious, where do you get your insurance? Did you buy a policy ... do you have insurance through your employer?

Holy cow....Your joking right ?

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Holy cow....Your joking right ?

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What part did you not understand?

At my age, I take healthcare seriously.

If you live long enough you will also.

Just Curious .... where do you get your insurance?

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What part did you not understand?

At my age, I take healthcare seriously.

If you live long enough you will also.

Just Curious .... where do you get your insurance?

I buy my own and I also happen to sell life/health insurance. You do point out issues that need to be adressed and the republicans did/do have plans, but if you remember were largely excluded from the process because Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi controlled everything and brushed off anything they suggested. I don't want to get put in a box here , I'm just saying from the way your post reads it just looks like a typical Democrat hit piece with false premises and b.s. rhetoric. Honestly question numbers 3,4,and 5 aren't even worth responding to.

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Personally I felt #3 was spot-on. I am not a republican or a democrat. I'm an American. So I have no allegiance to either party. But every time I hear or read a Republican in the news, the only thing he has to say is how bad the Democrats are and how terrible their plan is. They never offer their own solution other than a 5 second quote or party line.

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Personally I felt #3 was spot-on. I am not a republican or a democrat. I'm an American. So I have no allegiance to either party. But every time I hear or read a Republican in the news, the only thing he has to say is how bad the Democrats are and how terrible their plan is. They never offer their own solution other than a 5 second quote or party line.

Mike

With all due respect that is simply not true...Who proposed buying insurance across state lines for example( to increase competition). Tort reform is another example, Paul ryan has plans to reform medicare and so forth...Honestly do you guys only watch Msnbc or something. I don't mean that in a nasty way but, come on.

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With all due respect that is simply not true...Who proposed buying insurance across state lines for example( to increase competition). Tort reform is another example, Paul ryan has plans to reform medicare and so forth...Honestly do you guys only watch Msnbc or something. I don't mean that in a nasty way but, come on.

I don't watch msnbc. I also don't watch fox. And I think Paul Ryan is a good guy, but in general I stand by what I said and believe it to be totally accurate. I constantly feel that Republicans are just trying to trick the public, flat lie about the issues, use scare tactics, etc. Just the way I feel. Maybe you can convince me I am wrong.

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I don't watch msnbc. I also don't watch fox. And I think Paul Ryan is a good guy, but in general I stand by what I said and believe it to be totally accurate. I constantly feel that Republicans are just trying to trick the public, flat lie about the issues, use scare tactics, etc. Just the way I feel. Maybe you can convince me I am wrong.

Mike

I'm not going to argue with you about it...I'm no shill for the Republicans, I'll just leave it at that we disagree on this issue. The whole health care debate revolves around money really when it comes down to it...I think everyone would like to see all Americans have health care it's just a matter of how much it costs and who's going to pay for it.

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I'm not going to argue with you about it...I'm no shill for the Republicans, I'll just leave it at that we disagree on this issue. The whole health care debate revolves around money really when it comes down to it...I think everyone would like to see all Americans have health care it's just a matter of how much it costs and who's going to pay for it.

I don't want to argue, I didn't realize I was coming across as if I did. I'm open to trying to understand your point of view. Maybe you could link to some Republican articles or youtube clips of where they've proposed specific solutions for health care reform, other than to repeal the current law. If you want. If not, fine by me, I've got other stuff to do too

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Couldn't remember name of the tax cut I was referring to earlier. It's "Bush tax cut" lol.

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