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Federal Judge Prohibits Prayer at Texas Graduation Ceremony

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He's going to Hell.... oops... was that wrong... should I not have done that...

It's just not right... for a lot of those kids... prayer is the only hope they have to graduate...

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He's going to Hell.... oops... was that wrong... should I not have done that...

I guess more specifically, is this an attack on the first amendment or simply upholding separation of church and state?

To prohibit an individual from saying certain words seems like the first, but then the question is whether it is allowed at a public (state funded) event? The school is not forcing or endorsing the words or a prayer in anyway, it is up to the students on whether they want to say those words.

Hmm..

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I guess more specifically, is this an attack on the first amendment or simply upholding separation of church and state?

To prohibit an individual from saying certain words seems like the first, but then the question is whether it is allowed at a public (state funded) event? The school is not forcing or endorsing the words or a prayer in anyway, it is up to the students on whether they want to say those words.

Hmm..

The issue is state sponsorship. Private schools are a different ball of wax.

The first amendment prohibits government from establishing a religion, and the courts have interpreted that language over the years to prevent this kind of situation, where a prayer is placed on the "official agenda" of a state institution that's supposed to be religion-neutral. But it still happens all the time anyway. The question is whether anyone in a given situation will be so bothered about it that they sue.

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Congress shall make no laws respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

....U.S. Constitution.

I'll take that over bombastic, hateful, menacing, Bronze Age gibberish, WIELDED LIKE A CLUB, (post #4).


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Congress shall make no laws respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

....U.S. Constitution.

I'll take that over bombastic, hateful, menacing, Bronze Age gibberish (post #4).



If the teacher leading the class in prayer is Muslim or Jewish ... you would feel the same right?

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Feel the same as WHAT?

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Feel the same as WHAT?

Most folks I talk to who are in favor of prayer in public functions or in schools ... generally don't support the same issue if the religion is different from the one they subscribe to...

I was asking if you would support all religions to hold services in government facilities, public schools and public events.

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Most folks I talk to who are in favor of prayer in public functions or in schools ... generally don't support the same issue if the religion is different from the one they subscribe to...

I was asking if you would support all religions to hold services in government facilities, public schools and public events.

Hmm... unless I missed something, I think Zondor's point was that he was opposed to prayer in public schools.

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